Sony Xperia S

marcbrophy · 21-06-2012 10:05am

batistuta9 wrote: »

mines reads like this so it's locked, right?

[x] network 5
[] network subset 0
[] service provider 0
[] corporate 0
[] SIM 0

but do you know what the rest of it means?

i'm new enough to using android phones so looking for some info

I'm with three - as i think you are - & it's says the following in the services menu >> service info >> Configuration. Rooting status: Bootloader unlock allowed: No

what exactly does this mean? are you not able to root the phone?

Yes, it's locked alright! The others are different locks that can be applied to the phone, but because yours is network locked, then it'll only accept that networks sim card.

As for the bootloader, I think you may be able to root it, but not install custom ROMs! Maybe ED E can explain that one further?

batistuta9 wrote: »

when i connected the phone to my laptop & installed Sony PC Companion it says new software is available - 6.0.A.3.75

i currently have .62 on the phone & i'am with 3, but from reading this thread i gathered 3 weren't going to release these (or whatever you call it) & just wait for ICS, so if i install the .75 firmware will the phone stop working or anything like that?

also from here: http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/software/phones/xperia-s/ it's says there's the latest android software from sony is available, would that be the .75 firmware as well or ICS & again can i/should i install it?

though on the phone in the update Center it says "your phone already has the latest available system updates"

Just hook it up to PC companion and install the latest firmware (.75) for your phone.

No it will not stop working. Why would it?

.75 has some bug fixes for the phone, is a bit smoother and more responsive than the .62 that came on your phone. It is still GB, and not ICS, but that is on it's way fairly soon. (Due for release in late June)

killabban182 · 21-06-2012 10:20am

Does the xperia S have DNLA

ThunbergsAreGo · 21-06-2012 10:49am

According to this, yes

http://community.phones4u.co.uk/sharing-content-with-dlna-devices-using-the-sony-xperia-s/

ED E · 21-06-2012 11:39am

ICS IS ROLLING OUT! Wooooot

marcbrophy · 21-06-2012 11:52am

Sweet as a nut!!! :pac:

Edit: link

ThunbergsAreGo · 21-06-2012 2:40pm

Nice, when do we reckon we will officially get this?

marcbrophy · 21-06-2012 3:45pm

naughtb4 wrote: »

Nice, when do we reckon we will officially get this?

You can have this right now, if you are willing to use the Flashtool program and install the file that's floating around xda!

Otherwise, it's a 6 week rollout, and your version could be released to your network at any time during this, probably having to wait a little bit longer whilst your network customises it for their customers and then releases it!

Even if you are unbranded (the software isn't network specific), you still need to wait until the country specific update is released by Sony!

Ericaa · 21-06-2012 3:50pm

YES, getting this as soon as I get home WHEEE

ED E · 21-06-2012 5:08pm

Swiss Generic FTF is on XDA alright, only a very small batch have gotten it officially so far.

Gonna update later tonight myself.

Also, this is an in place update but ITS RECOMMENDED in any such case to FACTORY RESTORE.

ED E · 22-06-2012 12:18am

Before and After, .67 IRL(Three) to LT26_6.1.A.0.452_Generic_CH, up 6 but practically faster I think.

ThunbergsAreGo · 22-06-2012 9:58am

Noticing any nice changes yourself?

Thinking about Flashing but might just wait for the Meteor update to be pushed out (bit of an Android noob)

120_Minutes · 22-06-2012 12:35pm

Can anyone confirm battery improvements on ICS, thats the major reason I need this update.

ED E · 22-06-2012 12:38pm

120_Minutes wrote: »

Can anyone confirm battery improvements on ICS, thats the major reason I need this update.

Not sure about battery life but charging seems slower :S

ED E · 22-06-2012 3:32pm

FM Radio broken for anyone else on ICS?

marcbrophy · 22-06-2012 3:47pm

ED E wrote: »

FM Radio broken for anyone else on ICS?

Tested it there, and it's working fine for me!
On the stock swiss 4.0.4 and rooted!

ED E · 22-06-2012 5:59pm

marcbrophy wrote: »

Tested it there, and it's working fine for me!
On the stock swiss 4.0.4 and rooted!

I probs should have been more specific in my post :S It works for me, but detects headphones as a headset, despite them working fine for other players.

batistuta9 · 22-06-2012 6:12pm

marcbrophy · 22-06-2012 6:22pm

ED E wrote: »

I probs should have been more specific in my post :S It works for me, but detects headphones as a headset, despite them working fine for other players.

Which headphones are you using?
The ones that come with the phone are a headset as they have a built in mic.
I connected some old apple headphones, and it recognised them as headphones and said it was gonna use the phones microphone instead.

ThunbergsAreGo · 22-06-2012 10:59pm

Got the dreaded yellow tint today, thank god it seems to have disappeared by itself!

Not good to know it'sstill there looming

marcbrophy · 23-06-2012 12:02am

naughtb4 wrote: »

Got the dreaded yellow tint today, thank god it seems to have disappeared by itself!

Not good to know it'sstill there looming

It's still on my 'new' screen!!

Pain in my fcuking face :mad:

ED E · 23-06-2012 1:39am

naughtb4 wrote: »

Got the dreaded yellow tint today, thank god it seems to have disappeared by itself!

Not good to know it'sstill there looming

1. Install Stability Test
2. Run for half an hour
3. Open white webpage(google.com)
4. Know for sure

ThunbergsAreGo · 23-06-2012 6:13pm

ED E wrote: »

naughtb4 wrote: »

Got the dreaded yellow tint today, thank god it seems to have disappeared by itself!

Not good to know it'sstill there looming

1. Install Stability Test
2. Run for half an hour
3. Open white webpage(google.com)
4. Know for sure

Yeah it's back, are Sony themselves the ones to contact on this?

thebman · 23-06-2012 6:17pm

Got it updated. Face unlock is terrible.

Camera slider makes no sense with physical button already there.

ED E · 23-06-2012 6:34pm

naughtb4 wrote: »

Yeah it's back, are Sony themselves the ones to contact on this?

Depends on the network. Network(or carphone warehouse) are the point of sale so start there, but only if they use FonFix and not Fonmenders. Fonmenders dont acknowledge it as a problem and just send it back. Three use Fonmenders so no go there.

Fonfix are good, but they charge you E15 for dropping in a warranty repair which IMO is a scam practice, sony are paying them as is, but Sonys response to me was like, they can do what they like. This is BS imo as they're representing Sony Mobile in Ireland as they dont have a centre of their own.

In any case, call sony UK, numbers on the site, get the rep to make up a repair order with fonfix, then you'll be able to pop it in a jiffy bag and send it to them. Even ensured this'll be a fiver.

They'll replace the screen quicksharp *once its in stock*. There were shortages reported internationally but when I was in they had them.

thebman wrote: »

Got it updated. Face unlock is terrible.

Camera slider makes no sense with physical button already there.

Face unlock works really well. Just gotta know what to do.
1. Set it up in natural daylight, and dont use it in bad lighting situations
2. Lift the phone up to your chin level at least
3. OPEN YOUR MOUTH A BIT
4. I've found looking at the sensor helps too.

Tried on the Neo V and it didnt work so well, but its great on the XS.

ThunbergsAreGo · 24-06-2012 3:44pm

ED E wrote: »

naughtb4 wrote: »

Yeah it's back, are Sony themselves the ones to contact on this?

Depends on the network. Network(or carphone warehouse) are the point of sale so start there, but only if they use FonFix and not Fonmenders. Fonmenders dont acknowledge it as a problem and just send it back. Three use Fonmenders so no go there.

Fonfix are good, but they charge you E15 for dropping in a warranty repair which IMO is a scam practice, sony are paying them as is, but Sonys response to me was like, they can do what they like. This is BS imo as they're representing Sony Mobile in Ireland as they dont have a centre of their own.

In any case, call sony UK, numbers on the site, get the rep to make up a repair order with fonfix, then you'll be able to pop it in a jiffy bag and send it to them. Even ensured this'll be a fiver.

They'll replace the screen quicksharp *once its in stock*. There were shortages reported internationally but when I was in they had them.

thebman wrote: »

Got it updated. Face unlock is terrible.

Camera slider makes no sense with physical button already there.

Face unlock works really well. Just gotta know what to do.
1. Set it up in natural daylight, and dont use it in bad lighting situations
2. Lift the phone up to your chin level at least
3. OPEN YOUR MOUTH A BIT
4. I've found looking at the sensor helps too.

Tried on the Neo V and it didnt work so well, but its great on the XS.

Thanks again, no insurance so will just have to see how it goes, as far as it seems its a defect and should be under warranty

thebman · 24-06-2012 3:50pm

ED E wrote: »

thebman wrote: »

Got it updated. Face unlock is terrible.

Camera slider makes no sense with physical button already there.

Face unlock works really well. Just gotta know what to do.
1. Set it up in natural daylight, and dont use it in bad lighting situations
2. Lift the phone up to your chin level at least
3. OPEN YOUR MOUTH A BIT
4. I've found looking at the sensor helps too.

Tried on the Neo V and it didnt work so well, but its great on the XS.

But that is it not working. If it can't work all the time, it doesn't work.

Just like Siri or any other recognition tool. As far as the user is concerned, if it fails, it doesn't work.

It might be a good attempt at something hard to do and work in most conditions but if it isn't as reliable as pin unlock or pattern then why would you bother using it?

Just my opinion in it.

ED E · 24-06-2012 3:52pm

If you're looking for the best performance per say, clearly swipe is the way to go.

I've been using it for three days now and love it. If I'm in a dark room I just tap my thumb on the screen right after pressing the power button bypassing to the code. Each to their own.

flazio · 24-06-2012 9:52pm

When I run a game like 'Temple Run' or 'Cut the Rope' the back of the phone gets really warm. Is this normal?

thebman · 24-06-2012 11:01pm

flazio wrote: »

When I run a game like 'Temple Run' or 'Cut the Rope' the back of the phone gets really warm. Is this normal?

It is for the Xperia S anyway, might not be too healthy for the hardware though.

flazio · 25-06-2012 12:25am

So if a dual core like this is prone to that, makes you wonder how quads like HTC One X and Samsung GS3 are coping without fans.

batistuta9 · 25-06-2012 3:35am

flazio wrote: »

So if a dual core like this is prone to that, makes you wonder how quads like HTC One X and Samsung GS3 are coping without fans.

they're not, they're spontaneously combusting in cars :pac:

ED E · 25-06-2012 1:16pm

flazio wrote: »

So if a dual core like this is prone to that, makes you wonder how quads like HTC One X and Samsung GS3 are coping without fans.

Android will only activate cores as it needs them(XS runs core 0 only a lot of the time). The one X and S3 I assume heat up a LOT if you force them to full clock on four cores.

batistuta9 · 27-06-2012 7:02am

marcbrophy wrote: »

Sweet as a nut!!! :pac:

Edit: link

bump.

for those who're not rooted, loads of new SI numbers added to the list since this was first posted

EDIT: going well up until the last digit, so close haha

BionicRasher · 27-06-2012 8:24am

batistuta9 wrote: »

bump.

for those who're not rooted, loads of new SI numbers added to the list since this was first posted

EDIT: going well up until the last digit, so close haha

no ICS love for me yet - still waiting on 1 number - its like Telly Bingo

Ludo · 27-06-2012 8:36am

Just plugged mine in and it is updating to ICS as I type....will probably make no difference really though...tis already a good phone bar the slight yellow tint.

***EDIT***
aargh...step 3 of the update crapped out saying there is no software available for my phone..wha???? You just told me there is you silly piece of software!
Turned the damn phone off on me also.

Currently running 6.0.A.3.75. PC Companion tells me 6.1.A.0.452 is available but wont actually download it at step 3 of the update....server too busy i wonder?

ThunbergsAreGo · 27-06-2012 9:00am

Ludo wrote: »

Just plugged mine in and it is updating to ICS as I type....will probably make no difference really though...tis already a good phone bar the slight yellow tint.

***EDIT***
aargh...step 3 of the update crapped out saying there is no software available for my phone..wha???? You just told me there is you silly piece of software!
Turned the damn phone off on me also.

Currently running 6.0.A.3.75. PC Companion tells me 6.1.A.0.452 is available but wont actually download it at step 3 of the update....server too busy i wonder?

What Network are you with?

Waiting on ICS myself

Ludo · 27-06-2012 9:04am

naughtb4 wrote: »

What Network are you with?

Waiting on ICS myself

Meteor.

hmmm...not looking good to be honest:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1723430&page=81

Announcement on Sony Support about it also:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/community/support

ThunbergsAreGo · 27-06-2012 9:38am

Ludo wrote: »

Meteor.

hmmm...not looking good to be honest:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1723430&page=81

Announcement on Sony Support about it also:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/community/support

i have literally jst started downloading this. Set up for failure now

marcbrophy · 27-06-2012 9:56am

Some people are getting it officially in Ireland, according to that xda thread?

That was quick!! :pac:

ThunbergsAreGo · 27-06-2012 9:58am

Mine seems to have worked. Will need to have a proper play tonight/maybe do a factory reset and install etc. Seems a bit sluggish at the moment
and seems to be an issue switching screens

Might be worth trying again now Ludo?

Ludo · 27-06-2012 9:59am

naughtb4 wrote: »

Mine seems to have worked. Will need to have a proper play tonight/maybe do a factory reset and install etc. Seems a bit sluggish at the moment

Might be worth trying again now Ludo?

Thanks...trying again...goddamn it...crapped out again

ED E · 27-06-2012 10:02am

naughtb4 wrote: »

Mine seems to have worked. Will need to have a proper play tonight/maybe do a factory reset and install etc. Seems a bit sluggish at the moment

Might be worth trying again now Ludo?

First off, wait ten mins then reboot, updates can leave loads of crap open in the background. This should help.

Second, NEVER "upgrade", always wipe the system(can do that right off with flashtool).

Ludo · 27-06-2012 10:03am

ED E wrote: »

First off, wait ten mins then reboot, updates can leave loads of crap open in the background. This should help.

Second, NEVER "upgrade", always wipe the system(can do that right off with flashtool).

Reboot pc?

What do you mean NEVER upgrade....are you suggesting their upgrade does not work? Surely 99% of people will upgrade...

ED E · 27-06-2012 10:06am

Ludo wrote: »

Reboot pc?

What do you mean NEVER upgrade....are you suggesting their upgrade does not work? Surely 99% of people will upgrade...

No, the phone.

And no, not what I mean. When I said "upgrade" I was referring to an "in place upgrade", where the update changes the system and leaves your apps and data there. In both windows and android this always causes problems or performance issues down the road so its always best to start clean.

ThunbergsAreGo · 27-06-2012 10:24am

ED E wrote: »

No, the phone.

And no, not what I mean. When I said "upgrade" I was referring to an "in place upgrade", where the update changes the system and leaves your apps and data there. In both windows and android this always causes problems or performance issues down the road so its always best to start clean.

What is the best way to "Start Clean" ideally without using Flashtool?

I have backed up using PC Companion, is it possible to factory reset and then restore using this?

Ludo · 27-06-2012 11:04am

Installed SUS (Sony Update Software) rather than PC Companion and update now in progress.....DONE

be wide of me · 27-06-2012 1:24pm

Just updated no problem through Sony Update Centre. No need to factory reset. Impressed with ICS so far

Got a white Xperia S on meteor!

Ludo · 27-06-2012 1:29pm

be wide of me wrote: »

Just updated no problem through Sony Update Centre. No need to factory reset. Impressed with ICS so far Got a white Xperia S on meteor!

Impressed with what exactly? Only thing I really noticed so far is the font appears different in most apps (plume/dolphin, etc).
No obvious difference really so far....what am I missing?

ED E · 27-06-2012 1:33pm

naughtb4 wrote: »

ED E wrote: »

No, the phone.

And no, not what I mean. When I said "upgrade" I was referring to an "in place upgrade", where the update changes the system and leaves your apps and data there. In both windows and android this always causes problems or performance issues down the road so its always best to start clean.

What is the best way to "Start Clean" ideally without using Flashtool?

I have backed up using PC Companion, is it possible to factory reset and then restore using this?

Factory reset does the same thing as flashtool's wipe command, but restoring a seus backup might null the whole process, depending on how in depth it is.

be wide of me · 27-06-2012 1:34pm

Ludo wrote: »

Impressed with what exactly? Only thing I really noticed so far is the font appears different in most apps (plume/dolphin, etc).
No obvious difference really so far....what am I missing?

Find the swipe more responsive the phone seems to boot faster, all in all the phone runs better, no doubt improving battery life. I like the new texts and fonts, i think the software feels less outdated.

And get all technical if you want but i'm a smartphone newbie and am glad i upgraded that's just my opinion!!

Sony Xperia S

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