Journalism and cycling

TheBlaaMan · 29-03-2020 12:45pm

Nice to see this lovely piece in this weekend's Irish Times by Ian O'Riordan. While it's not that often, I buy the IT, I doubt there is much room for cycling in it, or other daily papers.

I'll post the full article after the weekend unless there are issues doing so?

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Seth Brundle · 29-03-2020 2:27pm

Article link: https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/ian-o-riordan-the-aloneness-of-the-long-distance-rider-1.4214054

CramCycle · 29-03-2020 2:37pm

TheBlaaMan wrote: »

I'll post the full article after the weekend unless there are issues doing so?

Alas there is, it is against site rules, post a link but that is it.

eeeee · 30-03-2020 12:17am

Threads Merged

tomasrojo · 30-03-2020 3:24am

Prose started off very purple alright, but it did calm down and hit an appropriate tone after, I think.

Sillitoe's story it mentions is really fine, I've always thought. More for its depiction of the defiance of underdogs than as a tribute to running, as such, thought it's that as well. Very memorable title too,

tomasrojo · 30-03-2020 10:20am

Just in passing ... I also read Saturday Night and Sunday Morning, which was good but I didn't find it anywhere near as compelling The Loneliness ..., the novel The Death of William Posters, which I can't remember anything good about, and a lot of his short stories, a few of which were very good. I think he only had a few good stories in him seemingly all written early on, but one was a cracker.

Anyway, just in case I accidentally encourage someone to read The Death of William Posters or something like that.

Harrybelafonte · 30-03-2020 11:11am

tomasrojo wrote: »

Just in passing ... I also read Saturday Night and Sunday Morning, which was good but I didn't find it anywhere near as compelling The Loneliness ..., the novel The Death of William Posters, which I can't remember anything good about, and a lot of his short stories, a few of which were very good. I think he only had a few good stories in him seemingly all written early on, but one was a cracker.

Anyway, just in case I accidentally encourage someone to read The Death of William Posters or something like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_aaECIey0M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_aaECIey0M

Grassey · 01-04-2020 6:10pm

on-the-bike-i-meet-no-one-78-year-old-cyclist-refuses-to-cocoon

Seth Brundle · 01-04-2020 6:14pm

Grassey wrote: »

on-the-bike-i-meet-no-one-78-year-old-cyclist-refuses-to-cocoon

:rolleyes:

Although he admits he himself had “a cardiac arrest four years ago, but that is well over.” It was true too he had “an abdominal operation last September” and “a stroke three weeks ago”. But, “it had no effect.”

He is “in great health” and “I’m not near anyone out on the bike.”

RobertFoster · 01-04-2020 8:10pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

:rolleyes:

tomasrojo · 06-04-2020 3:24pm

I have to hope this "fantasy cabinet" stays in the realms of fantasy:

A surprise package in all of this is the potential to see Verona Murphy end up as Shane Ross’ successor in the Department of Transport. Despite her controversial remarks over migrants which led to her departure from Fine Gael, she is a formidable operator, she understands the sector better than most and she is female, which this Cabinet is certainly shy of.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/analysis/daniel-mcconnell-fantasy-cabinet-predictions-for-the-next-government-992324.html

Interesting take: Transport is mostly about trucks and roads.

Seth Brundle · 06-04-2020 4:13pm

tomasrojo wrote: »

Interesting take: Transport is mostly about trucks and roads.

...and making sure pesky bicycles are not in their way!

tomasrojo · 06-04-2020 4:17pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

...and making sure pesky bicycles are not in their way!

It's even worse than that. Those terrible people are deliberately swerving in front of trucks so that the drivers will fall foul of minimum passing legislation. Well, the war on hauliers is over!

Curb Your Enthusiasm · 12-04-2020 3:19pm

I mean there's always been idiots hurling abuse and making sweeping generalisations about all cyclists on social media, but this is what I woke up to this morning on the local group page:

Some seriously idiotic comments quickly followed.

Does my head in! Especially those stating cyclists should use the road instead of the Greenway - where there is no infrastructure, and its lethal at the best of times with speeding and close passing, among other issues.

And how about the one stating cycling should be banned during lockdown? Are these people aware bikes are used for commuting to work, like a lot of our healthcare workers are doing, as well as getting the shopping done, etc etc? Are people really this ignorant or is it a case of just a few eejits gathering together in the comments section?

:rolleyes:

eeeee · 12-04-2020 3:47pm

Threads merged

buffalo · 12-04-2020 4:01pm

Is a Facebook post journalism?

Eamonnator · 12-04-2020 4:04pm

Fake news

eeeee · 12-04-2020 4:05pm

buffalo wrote: »

Is a Facebook post journalism?

Not really, but cyclists in the 'media', covers much of the same ground, so a new thread on the above post would be duplication of the same arguments in this thread.

TheChizler · 12-04-2020 4:10pm

I'm really enjoying all these long range pictures of groups of people used when stirring up rage and fear, it's almost as if they're using the perspective to falsely make it look like people are close together.

You get the same thing when commenting on people cycling 10 abreast actually.

AndrewJRenko · 12-04-2020 4:15pm

Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »

I mean there's always been idiots hurling abuse and making sweeping generalisations about all cyclists on social media, but this is what I woke up to this morning on the local group page:

Some seriously idiotic comments quickly followed.

Is that from Ireland or UK? I've seen a few UK moaners on the same thing.

Large bottle small glass · 12-04-2020 4:33pm

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Is that from Ireland or UK? I've seen a few UK moaners on the same thing.

Cork, County Cork
https://maps.app.goo.gl/YPrM3ZRAwKUvBZkc9

It looks like Rochestown greenway to me

Stark · 12-04-2020 4:36pm

The comments on bells annoy me. I stopped using mine as people take so much offence to it when I do use it.

TheChizler · 12-04-2020 4:40pm

Large bottle small glass wrote: »

Cork, County Cork
https://maps.app.goo.gl/YPrM3ZRAwKUvBZkc9

It looks like Rochestown greenway to me

Passage West car park I'd say. The Rochestown access is just about 2km away...

Curb Your Enthusiasm · 12-04-2020 4:51pm

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Is that from Ireland or UK? I've seen a few UK moaners on the same thing.

Yeah, Ireland, Rochestown-Passage Greenway in Cork.

Curb Your Enthusiasm · 12-04-2020 4:52pm

Stark wrote: »

The comments on bells annoy me. I stopped using mine as people take so much offence to it when I do use it.

Either that, or they pretend not to hear it despite multiple attempts at ringing it.

RobertFoster · 12-04-2020 5:19pm

Stark wrote: »

The comments on bells annoy me. I stopped using mine as people take so much offence to it when I do use it.

"its the meats they can't do!"

A woman admonished me for not having a bell in the Phoenix Park one day. She was the one crossing the cycle track without looking, I was the one who saw her well in advance, slowed down, and stayed back. But my lack of bell was the issue.

MPFGLB · 12-04-2020 10:31pm

Great piece in teh Sunday Independent today on the life of NIcolas Roche as an elite sportsman by Paul KImmage

12-04-2020 10:53pm

MPFGLB wrote: »

Great piece in teh Sunday Independent today on the life of NIcolas Roche as an elite sportsman by Paul KImmage

Online but paywalled

https://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cycling/paul-kimmage-meets-nicolas-roche-a-broken-marriage-the-fear-of-never-knowing-his-daughter-and-learning-lifes-lessons-39121098.html

MPFGLB · 12-04-2020 10:59pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Online but paywalled

https://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cycling/paul-kimmage-meets-nicolas-roche-a-broken-marriage-the-fear-of-never-knowing-his-daughter-and-learning-lifes-lessons-39121098.html

Worth paying for the paper

anyway here is off the ball commentary on the piece

https://www.offtheball.com/podcasts/the-off-the-ball-sunday-paper-review/tommy-conlan-declan-bogue-impressive-kenny-micks-payout-nico-roche

Weepsie · 13-04-2020 12:26am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Online but paywalled

https://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cycling/paul-kimmage-meets-nicolas-roche-a-broken-marriage-the-fear-of-never-knowing-his-daughter-and-learning-lifes-lessons-39121098.html

Join your local library online and use pressreader. Might be able to access instantly at present

magicbastarder · 13-04-2020 11:01am

a new wrinkle in the 'what the public complain about cyclists doing' list.

https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/18371526.letter-cyclists-prosecuted

eeeee · 13-04-2020 11:50am

magicbastarder wrote: »

a new wrinkle in the 'what the public complain about cyclists doing' list.

https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/18371526.letter-cyclists-prosecuted

They're right?
I know the rules in the UK are different but move that here, 2k restriction etc. But they do have to stay local I think? Plus they shouldn't be stopping.
Plus from what the mountains were like pre restriction I can well imagine how it can be dangerous and frustrating for locals - I have never, ever, not on the sunniest of summer evenings or weekends seen as many people out the mountains as then. Maybe it's this behaviour they're protesting?

Hurrache · 13-04-2020 11:55am

MPFGLB wrote: »

Great piece in teh Sunday Independent today on the life of NIcolas Roche as an elite sportsman by Paul KImmage

The tattoos in the promo for it, are they real or a Photoshop to go with the tagline?
https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1249374246725394433?s=19

magicbastarder · 13-04-2020 11:58am

eeeee wrote: »

They're right?

it was the 'they're leaning on our gates' comment i was referring to.

eeeee · 13-04-2020 12:47pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

it was the 'they're leaning on our gates' comment i was referring to.

Ah I see.
I can see how that'd piss people off at the moment, in these viral times!

eeeee · 13-04-2020 1:06pm

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/13/pop-up-bike-lanes-help-with-coronavirus-social-distancing-in-germany

Imagine that happening here!

bazermc · 13-04-2020 1:54pm

Hurrache wrote: »

The tattoos in the promo for it, are they real or a Photoshop to go with the tagline?
https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1249374246725394433?s=19

Interesting never knew he was married and had a daughter.

fat bloke · 13-04-2020 2:30pm

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/gardai-urge-cyclists-dressed-in-club-colours-to-stop-training-on-the-roads/

What kind of a call is that?! There are guidelines, and if you train / exercise within the guidelines, then that's the end of the story!! What is behind this fcuking public singling out and demonising of, not just cyclists but, <sigh> <must I say it...> lycra-clad.... cyclists. :mad::mad:

Stark · 13-04-2020 4:05pm

They should clarify this more. If I go out for a run today, am I allowed wear a club t-shirt/singlet? What if I wear one walking down to the shops? What about one of those free race t-shirts? Any particular club colours that the virus likes more than others?

Weepsie · 13-04-2020 4:15pm

They did qualify if at the end, saying "some cyclists" and it seems to be that those they are finding not adhering to the 2km limit are predominantly out on their regular training type spins.

That's what I got from it, and it's poorly written by StickyBottle imo and just looking for some sort of outrage.

Type 17 · 13-04-2020 4:22pm

Like it or not, people do make assumptions - I've been going out every day (<2km radius) with my wife, and where we live, that means a lot of city & suburban streets (junctions, potholes, etc), so I've been riding my "lock it in town" bike and wearing regular clothes - we never get a second look.
The other day, she didn't fancy a cycle, so I got lycra'd up, and went out on my (white, carbon, noticeable) road bike. I still stuck to the 2km radius, but got a lot of "hard stares".

13-04-2020 4:27pm

Maybe they were people like me who rubber neck every cyclist who passes to see what they are riding

Today I saw Trek, a Cube with I think a Canyon for company (Father and son looked to be) and a Giant hybrid and another Trek while out walking.

Type 17 · 13-04-2020 4:35pm

I look at others' bikes too, but most of the hard stares were from pedestrians/drivers - they weren't all off-duty road-bike riders...

cletus · 13-04-2020 4:36pm

^^^this^^^

My wife just rolls her eyes now when a bike goes past, she knows im going to be looking to see what it is

AndrewJRenko · 13-04-2020 5:14pm

cletus wrote: »

^^^this^^^

My wife just rolls her eyes now when a bike goes past, she knows im going to be looking to see what it is

Don't you feel a bit dirty getting back on your own bike after you've been eyeing up another man's ride?

eeeee · 13-04-2020 5:38pm

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Don't you feel a bit dirty getting back on your own bike after you've been eyeing up another man's ride?

Well that's really creepy.

I do check out bikes all the time, but don't go to rotten sexist judgments with it :rolleyes:

cletus · 13-04-2020 5:39pm

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Don't you feel a bit dirty getting back on your own bike after you've been eyeing up another man's ride?

Nope, I'm completely promiscuous when it comes to bikes and tools.

My bike knows and understands that I love it

RobertFoster · 13-04-2020 5:59pm

My bike isn't sentient, at least, it hasn't told me if it is or not.

MPFGLB · 13-04-2020 6:18pm

Hurrache wrote: »

The tattoos in the promo for it, are they real or a Photoshop to go with the tagline?
https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1249374246725394433?s=19

The tattoos are real

Lots of cyclists have them...think Pozzato ,Roglic , etc
Sems the thing to do ...I'm not a big fan tbh

cletus · 13-04-2020 6:51pm

RobertFoster wrote: »

My bike isn't sentient, at least, it hasn't told me if it is or not.

Maybe it just doesn't love you...

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