Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

DoctaDee · 10-07-2017 5:07pm #1

Welcome to the Mayo GAA discussion thread - Chapter 3, yer trotting them out quicker than a Mills & Boon Romance !.

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NabyLadistheman · 10-07-2017 5:11pm

Mayo 4 Sam 2017

yop · 10-07-2017 5:14pm

Fk up Suarezistheman!

Mayo 4 Sam 2018

Fr Tod Umptious · 10-07-2017 5:14pm

Sorry "ureds" (from the old thread) I see the 5pm time on the Twitter feed now also.

I'd have preferred 7pm, but sure Limerick is handy either way for a Mayo man coming from Kerry.

Fr Tod Umptious · 10-07-2017 5:20pm

Should we beware of the wounded Cork ?

Remember in 2014 they sucked in the Munster final and then gave Mayo a run for their money in the QF ?

I'm not sure myself, all we have heard is that they are in disarray, but they ran at Kerry and created chances, running at Mayo could yield returns too.

But still Mayo should be on that upward trajectory getting ready for QF, so again like Derry and Clare they should have too much for them.

On a side note, Cork used to be Mayo's ultimate bogey team, they went a astonishing 95 years without beating Cork, they finally beat them in the 2011 QF, the game that many could point to as the start of this current very successful, very consistent incarnation of the Mayo team.

mayo.mick · 10-07-2017 5:22pm

Season tickets have been updated from Ennis.

yop · 10-07-2017 5:29pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Should we beware of the wounded Cork ?

Remember in 2014 they sucked in the Munster final and then gave Mayo a run for their money in the QF ?

I'm not sure myself, all we have heard is that they are in disarray, but they ran at Kerry and created chances, running at Mayo could yield returns too.

But still Mayo should be on that upward trajectory getting ready for QF, so again like Derry and Clare they should have too much for them.

On a side note, Cork used to be Mayo's ultimate bogey team, they went a astonishing 95 years without beating Cork, they finally beat them in the 2011 QF, the game that many could point to as the start of this current very successful, very consistent incarnation of the Mayo team.

I'd be wary of all teams at this stage, not there for the national anthem (well aside from cusack park!)

km79 · 10-07-2017 5:33pm

yop wrote: »

I'd be wary of all teams at this stage, not there for the national anthem (well aside from cusack park!)

The funny thing about Saturday is the best rendition of the anthem has been started by the crowd and then they interrupted it !

Bunny Colvin · 10-07-2017 5:37pm

What's this I hear about Limerick?

Oldtree · 10-07-2017 6:39pm

mayo.mick wrote: »

Season tickets have been updated from Ennis.

That was very quick, somthing for the cb to aim for

Oldtree · 10-07-2017 6:40pm

yop wrote: »

Fk up Suarezistheman!

Mayo 4 Sam 2018

Did I blink and miss a year

jasonroche123 · 10-07-2017 6:43pm

Cork are at nothing, they are at their lowest ebb and we should dispose of them easily.

Oldtree · 10-07-2017 6:57pm

Let's be having a bit of this then

keane2097 · 10-07-2017 7:57pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Should we beware of the wounded Cork ?

Remember in 2014 they sucked in the Munster final and then gave Mayo a run for their money in the QF ?

I'm not sure myself, all we have heard is that they are in disarray, but they ran at Kerry and created chances, running at Mayo could yield returns too.

But still Mayo should be on that upward trajectory getting ready for QF, so again like Derry and Clare they should have too much for them.

On a side note, Cork used to be Mayo's ultimate bogey team, they went a astonishing 95 years without beating Cork, they finally beat them in the 2011 QF, the game that many could point to as the start of this current very successful, very consistent incarnation of the Mayo team.

I thought they were not bad in the first half against us. Four points down at half time and having given us enough of it, I was a bit worried that if they got a quick goal they could do that Cork thing of suddenly thinking they're as good as you.

We flew out at the start of the second half which they gave up after, but if it had gone the other way you wouldn't know with them.

naughto · 10-07-2017 8:11pm

jasonroche123 wrote: »

Cork are at nothing, they are at their lowest ebb and we should dispose of them easily.

That was the thinking against Galway and look where it got us threat them with the respect that they deserve(unless there the rossies) in saying that with 15 men we would have put Galway away.

There is no pressures on cork if they get a hiding every one will say they where piss poor any way.
We need to sort of sh1te out way to many red cards being picked up some one needs to tell boyler not to get involved in every little thing going.

Did any one else think they where banned when u couldn't post in the old thread

What odds would you get on Galway sacking there manager after the Donegal game I wounder

munsterlegend · 10-07-2017 8:27pm

naughto wrote: »

That was the thinking against Galway and look where it got us threat them with the respect that they deserve(unless there the rossies) in saying that with 15 men we would have put Galway away.

There is no pressures on cork if they get a hiding every one will say they where piss poor any way.
We need to sort of sh1te out way to many red cards being picked up some one needs to tell boyler not to get involved in every little thing going.

Did any one else think they where banned when u couldn't post in the old thread

This Cork team have zero confidence. Unless there is a sending off or some other unusual incident such as a few goals in Cork's favour then the result is a foregone conclusion. Cork should have a better full forward line than the last day but I would expect Mayo to win by 7/8 points.

jr86 · 10-07-2017 9:29pm

Yeah 2014 cork were in "disarray" too yet they caused us serious problems and by the end we were really hanging on

casscass4444 · 10-07-2017 10:02pm

Traffic is bad for ye alright especially cgalway and clarenbridge but ye may stick it out this year.galway is ruined with traffic lights.when the new road gets up and running ye will have straight run from Tuam to limerick.

PARlance · 10-07-2017 10:12pm

munsterlegend wrote: »

This Cork team have zero confidence. Unless there is a sending off or some other unusual incident such as a few goals in Cork's favour then the result is a foregone conclusion. Cork should have a better full forward line than the last day but I would expect Mayo to win by 7/8 points.

We've been starting very poorly, if we could get off to a fast start it could knock the stuffing out of them but there's nothing to suggest that.

seligehgit · 10-07-2017 10:14pm

jr86 wrote: »

Yeah 2014 cork were in "disarray" too yet they caused us serious problems and by the end we were really hanging on

Largely self inflicted,our propensity to sit back on leads and attempt to defend same has been a recurring theme in big games.Much better to try and push on than go conservative and seek to protect a six or seven point lead.We are never very good at doing same.

Stoner · 10-07-2017 10:34pm

seligehgit wrote:

Largely self inflicted,our propensity to sit back on leads and attempt to defend same has been a recurring theme in big games.Much better to try and push on than go conservative and seek to protect a six or seven point lead.We are never very good at doing same.

Cork just fall away for the last 15 minutes. Can't see them lasting against Mayo.

jr86 · 10-07-2017 10:40pm

seligehgit wrote: »

Largely self inflicted,our propensity to sit back on leads and attempt to defend same has been a recurring theme in big games.Much better to try and push on than go conservative and seek to protect a six or seven point lead.We are never very good at doing same.

I agree with that. A poster mentioned we were better defensively under horan

Well quite frankly we were all at sea that day. I have a recollection of donncha o Connor and Brian Hurley jogging through our defence for the goal

MaroonAndGreen · 10-07-2017 11:16pm

We should absolutely be wary of Cork. They were well in the Munster final in the first half and had goal chances too. Put it this way, they've beaten a good Tipp side so are going to be at least equal or better than Clare who gave us a scare.

I hope our lads don't have the Galway mentality of thinking they have games won before they step on the field though. I don't think we do. And even if we do and get caught cold at the start we'll have the resilience to fight back.

PARlance · 10-07-2017 11:24pm

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

We should absolutely be wary of Cork. They were well in the Munster final in the first half and had goal chances too. Put it this way, they've beaten a good Tipp side so are going to be at least equal or better than Clare who gave us a scare.

I hope our lads don't have the Galway mentality of thinking they have games won before they step on the field though. I don't think we do. And even if we do and get caught cold at the start we'll have the resilience to fight back.

I would be wary but would base that on the Kerry game more so. I thought they were poor against Tipp and Quinlivan's injury was key. I don't think they were winning that game if he didn't have to go off.

jr86 · 10-07-2017 11:26pm

Traditionally cork can often throw up performances against the run of play so to speak

In a couple of weeks in 2015 they should have beaten Kerry and lost to a piss poor kildare

Id never totally write them off

finisklin · 11-07-2017 7:33am

Potential ambush in store if complancency set in.

We saw what happened Galway.

Rochford I'm sure will keep them grounded.

MaroonAndGreen · 11-07-2017 8:12am

We ambushed Cork in 2011, they were 1/5 favourites that day. Roles have reversed, we are 1/6 favourites going into this game.

boosabum · 11-07-2017 8:53am

Cork are big and mobile around the midfield area.
Any team that get's enough primary possession will always cause problems especially running at this mayo team, we saw it from Derry & Clare how they punched holes in us.
Mayo have taken as many bad beatings from cork as they have from any other team so they definitely won't be feeling inferior.

mayo.mick · 11-07-2017 8:54am

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

We ambushed Cork in 2011, they were 1/5 favourites that day. Roles have reversed, we are 1/6 favourites going into this game.

And what a day that was! There were some people saying to me "what the hell are ya going up there for to see them get hammered"

PARlance · 11-07-2017 9:09am

You could be forgiven for forgetting that they were defending champions in 2011.

naughto · 11-07-2017 9:12am

boosabum wrote: »

Cork are big and mobile around the midfield area.
Any team that get's enough primary possession will always cause problems especially running at this mayo team, we saw it from Derry & Clare how they punched holes in us.
Mayo have taken as many bad beatings from cork as they have from any other team so they definitely won't be feeling inferior.

Short kick outs will null that thread even though parsons and O'Shea are equally as good as any

km79 · 11-07-2017 9:54am

PARlance wrote: »

You could be forgiven for forgetting that they were defending champions in 2011.

Absolutely
They are a shambles now
A good start for once would make it easier though !

Shurimgreat · 11-07-2017 10:01am

Clare and Derry put it up to Mayo for long stretches. Cork would probably be of similar quality to both these teams. So I can see them putting it up to us. We've been very inconsistent this year, so we could be great or we could have another stinker. I wouldn't write off Cork just yet. With some of the weaknesses we have in defence under the high ball and in attack, we could be caught out.

yop · 11-07-2017 11:04am

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Clare and Derry put it up to Mayo for long stretches. Cork would probably be of similar quality to both these teams. So I can see them putting it up to us. We've been very inconsistent this year, so we could be great or we could have another stinker. I wouldn't write off Cork just yet. With some of the weaknesses we have in defence under the high ball and in attack, we could be caught out.

If Clare or Derry had scored a couple of the goal chances which Clarke saved, which seems to be a pattern, then we could have been in a hell of a lot more bother in both them games! We seem to show up for the first 5 minutes in the 1st half, kick 3-6 silly wides then let the opposition run at us.
We come out 2nd half and finally crack it up.

That has happened against how many teams this year, the difference was that Dublin blew us apart and we had no response.

We are weak from 1/2 back to full back, no pace cutting across closing space.

Shurimgreat · 11-07-2017 11:09am

We were gifted one goal against Clare. The other was well taken.
The goals were the difference between the sides at the end, although Clare (like Derry) ran out of steam.
We bludgeoned Derry with our superior fitness but little else. Footballing wise we weren't much better.
Clare and Derry I would rate as mid table division 2 sides. Cork likewise.
We struggle to score and now worryingly we struggle to defend. Clare found acres of space up the middle and only for Vaughans black card, could have conceded a goal there.
On paper you'd say Mayo should win easily, but I think its going to be a similar game to the Clare and Derry ones. Footballing wise we haven't been great this year and only fitness and strength have carried us through.

Royal Legend · 11-07-2017 9:56pm

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

What's this I hear about Limerick?

Should have left him off at the ref, being a meath man he would have flattened the fat kanuc

(with one punch too)
p.s. how is he allowed into grounds surely he should have been banned for life, as for wearing a Chelsea top, says enough in itself.

Oldtree · 12-07-2017 1:27am

Podcast with Aos on Off the Ball this evening

http://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/

Article on independent.ie about aos on Newstalk Off the Ball this evening.

Mayo star Aidan O'Shea responds to Bernard Flynn's controversial 'selfie' criticism

Mayo juggernaut Aidan O'Shea has admitted that he quit social media for a time after being criticised for taking selfies with young fans while his teammates warmed down after a challenge game earlier this year.

Two-time All-Ireland winner with Meath Bernard Flynn suggested that O'Shea was more interested in “photographs and selfies” than the team.

Current Mayo boss Stephen Rochford and former manager James Horan were among those who defended O'Shea from the claims but speaking on Off The Ball on Newstalk this evening, O'Shea finally had his say on the issue.

"It is impossible to try and switch off totally. To be honest with you, a lot of the boys just pulled the p**s out of it to be honest," he said.

"I did my best to switch off from it and to be honest, I stayed off social media for a long period of time.

"It got to a stage where I didn't know what games were on the television from a sport point of view but usually I'm well clued into things but I completely zoned out.

"My injury took up a lot of my time and that was totally my focus. You can't control things like that, there is no point trying to lose too much sleep over it or try to fight it. It is what it is."

He continued: "The press is the press and the media have a job to do. I can't control a headline or anything like that.

"I just know from being a player with Mayo and when I was a kid and a supporter, when I became a county footballer, I mad the conscious decision to be obedient to kids. I think it's an important part of what the GAA is about, I think it's an important part of what we're all about in the community.

"Sometimes that gets lost. For me, first of all I'm a Breaffy footballer and Mayo footballer second of all and whether it's a club game in the top end of Mayo, or an inter-county game or some kid walking up the street and they are looking for a picture, I'll do what I asked when I was 10 or 11 years of age and I'll be obliging when I can and I'll always to that.

"From that point of view it's disappointing. GAA players, not just me, the give very freely of their time and do a lot to promote the game."

O'Shea has struggled with injury this year but has been very influential in the qualifier victories over Derry and Clare after Mayo exited the Connacht championship to rivals Galway.

He will be a central figure for Mayo when they play Cork at the Gaelic Grounds on July 22.

seligehgit · 12-07-2017 7:21am

Is Paddy Durcan back for the Cork game or did he get a one month ban for a straight red card for a strike?

MaroonAndGreen · 12-07-2017 7:42am

seligehgit wrote: »

Is Paddy Durcan back for the Cork game or did he get a one month ban for a straight red card for a strike?

He's back. Ciaran Whelan said at the time that it was a one month ban but that's fake news. It's a one game ban.

seligehgit · 12-07-2017 8:28am

Great interview with Aidan.

keane2097 · 12-07-2017 9:39am

Very gracious response to the hullabaloo by O'Shea.

yop · 12-07-2017 9:42am

keane2097 wrote: »

Very gracious response to the hullabaloo by O'Shea.

Don't expect anything else. If anyone actually met the lad they'd ignore the BS pushed out by the media. Paper doesn't refuse ink and all that, so easy for people to form opinions, most of them wrong, based on that.

The abuse he takes on the pitch and never reacts and the rubbish from the media and wanna be pundits would nearly push a lot of lads out of the game, but fair play to him he has stuck it out and has put in 2 great performances so far this year. But I'm sure Bernadine Flynn and his other wannabes will be waiting in the wings for him to falter.

PARlance · 12-07-2017 10:23am

He's a CLASS ACT!
Media abuse, selfies, photo shoots... try it sometime!

flasher0030 · 12-07-2017 10:35am

yop wrote: »

Don't expect anything else. If anyone actually met the lad they'd ignore the BS pushed out by the media. Paper doesn't refuse ink and all that, so easy for people to form opinions, most of them wrong, based on that.

The abuse he takes on the pitch and never reacts and the rubbish from the media and wanna be pundits would nearly push a lot of lads out of the game, but fair play to him he has stuck it out and has put in 2 great performances so far this year. But I'm sure Bernadine Flynn and his other wannabes will be waiting in the wings for him to falter.

I’ve never met him, but he seems a genuine good guy. He must have some level of patience. I don’t know how he doesn’t react to the holding and wrestling that is stowed upon him. I can’t understand why there is no onus for umpires to step up to the mark, and show some kind of pro-active nature in games. They only have a couple of things to think about in a match – wide or not, goal or point, 45 or not, square ball or not. There’s not much else for them to do. Off all of the officials, between the 4 umpires, they have the most time to view what is happening in games. They can see the illegal “tactics” used to quieten the O’SHea’s , Donaghys, Connolly’s of the game. When an umpire is about 5 yards away from Philly McMAhon having a hold of AOS’s jersey, waiting for a high ball to come in, he surely has some responsibility to make the defender aware that he sees what is going on, and if it happens again, he will bring to ref’s attention for a booking. But they just stand there like statues, bellys sticking out through the white coats. They may as well be white strait-jackets they’re wearing.

yop · 12-07-2017 10:51am

flasher0030 wrote: »

I’ve never met him, but he seems a genuine good guy. He must have some level of patience. I don’t know how he doesn’t react to the holding and wrestling that is stowed upon him. I can’t understand why there is no onus for umpires to step up to the mark, and show some kind of pro-active nature in games. They only have a couple of things to think about in a match – wide or not, goal or point, 45 or not, square ball or not. There’s not much else for them to do. Off all of the officials, between the 4 umpires, they have the most time to view what is happening in games. They can see the illegal “tactics” used to quieten the O’SHea’s , Donaghys, Connolly’s of the game. When an umpire is about 5 yards away from Philly McMAhon having a hold of AOS’s jersey, waiting for a high ball to come in, he surely has some responsibility to make the defender aware that he sees what is going on, and if it happens again, he will bring to ref’s attention for a booking. But they just stand there like statues, bellys sticking out through the white coats. They may as well be white strait-jackets they’re wearing.

Agree on that, lads call out AOS, COC, Donaghy, Connolly as been scum and filthy, but if the same keyboard boys put up with the level of abuse they get during a game then they'd pipe a different tune.

AOS must have serious self control not to react.

Shurimgreat · 12-07-2017 11:44am

I would say AOS is the most fouled player in Ireland on the field yet doesn't get frees for a quarter of the fouls.

I think everyone including players and officials take the view "the big man can take it". It shouldn't be that way. Big strong players should be given the same level of protection as the likes of JOD or Gooch. Unfortunately you blow on some of the smaller players and they win a free. Someone tries to take AOS's head off and no-one even notices.

PARlance · 12-07-2017 11:50am

flasher0030 wrote: »

I’ve never met him, but he seems a genuine good guy. He must have some level of patience. I don’t know how he doesn’t react to the holding and wrestling that is stowed upon him. I can’t understand why there is no onus for umpires to step up to the mark, and show some kind of pro-active nature in games. They only have a couple of things to think about in a match – wide or not, goal or point, 45 or not, square ball or not. There’s not much else for them to do. Off all of the officials, between the 4 umpires, they have the most time to view what is happening in games. They can see the illegal “tactics” used to quieten the O’SHea’s , Donaghys, Connolly’s of the game. When an umpire is about 5 yards away from Philly McMAhon having a hold of AOS’s jersey, waiting for a high ball to come in, he surely has some responsibility to make the defender aware that he sees what is going on, and if it happens again, he will bring to ref’s attention for a booking. But they just stand there like statues, bellys sticking out through the white coats. They may as well be white strait-jackets they’re wearing.

There are 2 linesmen there too that could be allowed off the line and onto the pitch to help monitor the game. I would be looking to them before the umpires as they're "trained" to do so.

The off the ball stuff has been a big problem for so long that I don't think it's crazy to suggest that the GAA are happy to let it continue... They get great exposure and unreal hype is created about incidents these days. They get front and back pages of coverage the way it is at present.

Mayo Club 51 · 12-07-2017 12:32pm

maximus15 · 13-07-2017 2:15am

I've admittedly been one of AOS biggest critics in the last 2 seasons mainly down to been frustrated how he was taken out of his best position of midfield ,but I have to give him massive credit in the last 2 games for firstly his performances and secondly his discipline.

Nearly every occasion he gets on the or looks for the ball , he is either held back by jersey or opponents full body weight on his back and still continues his run until picks out team mate or in the rare event , he hears a whistle giving him a free! . It is no wonder he looks out on his feet near end of game , nothing more energy draining trying to run with hits coming in and been held back when trying to reach full tilt in sprints .

I'm just hoping that maybe the rest of team learn from his reluctance to hit out when frustrated in same way or provoked. Higgins while no concrete proof had to be verbally provoked to lash out at comer, durkan had numerous runs blocked or stopped before he threw a punch, and Harrison was in headlock before he launched into a spear tackle.

In the 3 instances there is no doubting most of us would feel like lashing out in a hotly charged atmosphere like that on a football pitch when playing for your county but in the long run its only the fans and teammates they are letting down with such actions.

I know the big teams and games are still ahead of us and the stakes only get higher along with the pressure but hopefully that's the end of the ill discipline that has blighted the last 3 games. The best way to respond to any provocation by opponents is put in a motm performance and let them sit at home for rest of the summer ,watching mayo progress.

km79 · 13-07-2017 11:07am

Brendan kealy had left Kerry squad.........very strange timing .......maybe the time to get them is the quarters .......or maybe Donegal will do the job for us cos I wouldn't think Galway would be equipped to do so

Shurimgreat · 13-07-2017 11:39am

The only time is to get them in the quarters but it doesn't really matter when we got them this year. They'd hammer us out the gate.

We have to get past Cork yet and that's not a foregone conclusion based on our form this year.

Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

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