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Recruit Prison Officer 2019

  • 03-03-2019 8:40pm
    #1
    irishgirl91
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭


    Recruit Prison Officer 2019 application on public jobs - opened 28/02/2019 and is closing on 21/03/2019

    Dedicated thread for the 2019 application process so get posting guys & girls and good luck in your application :)


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Comments

  • #2
    patrickpints
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ✭patrickpints


    filling out my application, wonder how much weight is giving to the voluntary or community work question as there is nothing really I can put down for that?


  • #3
    private89
    Registered Users Posts: 34 ✭private89


    Am looking at the 2019 campaign.

    m wondering if the background checks are the same or easier than for AGS? I have a few convictions (motoring and public order) and wondering if these would exclude me. I applied to AGS and got turned down. Just gone 30 so think I have "grown up" now.

    Would coming from the Army help or is that a


  • #4
    po candidate
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭po candidate


    private89 wrote: »
    Am looking at the 2019 campaign.

    m wondering if the background checks are the same or easier than for AGS? I have a few convictions (motoring and public order) and wondering if these would exclude me. I applied to AGS and got turned down. Just gone 30 so think I have "grown up" now.

    Would coming from the Army help or is that a

    I'm not 100% on how strict it is compared to Gardai. I'm from 2018 and waiting on clearance at the moment. I remember in the 2018 thread a serving officer stated it wasnt as strict as he has colleagues he knew had been in trouble before joining and they got in no problem. He suggested that this wouldn't happen with the Gardai! Have a look at the start of the 2018 thread and you'll see a few asking about the clearance issue. Ultimately I would just apply if I were you and see how it goes.


  • #5
    irishgirl91
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭irishgirl91


    private89 wrote: »
    Am looking at the 2019 campaign.

    m wondering if the background checks are the same or easier than for AGS? I have a few convictions (motoring and public order) and wondering if these would exclude me. I applied to AGS and got turned down. Just gone 30 so think I have "grown up" now.

    Would coming from the Army help or is that a

    I would agree with po candidate to apply and see how it goes


  • #6
    Star hurl
    Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭Star hurl


    Would anyone have an idea how much per Month after tax you would be taking home ? Also completed the appitude tests in 2016 and was very strong in job simulation but really struggled in the numerical section . Would that part still be the same or maybe it has changed again ? .


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  • #7
    patrickpints
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ✭patrickpints


    anyone do the interview last year? how difficult was it and how long roughly?


  • #8
    patrickpints
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ✭patrickpints


    no idea on the tax question as everyones personal circumstances is different, would you clear 500 a week after tax?


  • #9
    billgibney
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭billgibney


    patrickpints wrote: »
    no idea on the tax question as everyones personal circumstances is different, would you clear 500 a week after tax?

    Including all allowances and built in overtime the starting pay is around 47000 per year


  • #10
    Bowrow
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭Bowrow


    patrickpints wrote: »
    anyone do the interview last year? how difficult was it and how long roughly?
    The interview is the hardest part.
    Just have your examples on the competencies and stick to answering the questions and you'll be fine.
    I think it was about 20-30 mins


  • #11
    Bowrow
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭Bowrow


    Star hurl wrote: »
    Would anyone have an idea how much per Month after tax you would be taking home ? Also completed the appitude tests in 2016 and was very strong in job simulation but really struggled in the numerical section . Would that part still be the same or maybe it has changed again ? .
    I narrowly missed out in 2016 and 're applied in 2018 and I now await on pct and medical.the 2016 was numerical reasoning but 2018 was Alot harder imo because it was a calculation test.do some study/grinds and you'll be fine


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  • #12
    KBHC
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭KBHC


    billgibney wrote: »
    Including all allowances and built in overtime the starting pay is around 47000 per year

    Is this as a recruit Prison officer after your assigned a prison?? Or after 3 years when u become a prison officer??


  • #13
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,767 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    KBHC wrote: »
    Is this as a recruit Prison officer after your assigned a prison?? Or after 3 years when u become a prison officer??

    Your assigned a prison after the initial 12 weeks, you become a prison officer on completion of college so after 3 years


  • #14
    Star hurl
    Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭Star hurl


    So your talking about around 35 k for the first 3 years with Sunday's etc


  • #15
    Phillip k
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 50 ✭✭Phillip k


    patrickpints wrote: »
    no idea on the tax question as everyones personal circumstances is different, would you clear 500 a week after tax?

    You don't get as much over time as what they use to. Starting salary is 28,690 to 32,941


  • #16
    patrickpints
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ✭patrickpints


    when filling in the application form, section A employment record do you have to include dates or just months you started jobs? how exact do you have to be?


  • #17
    po candidate
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭po candidate


    patrickpints wrote: »
    when filling in the application form, section A employment record do you have to include dates or just months you started jobs? how exact do you have to be?

    I put down month and year and it was no problem.


  • #18
    Bartholemew Mills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4 ✭Bartholemew Mills


    patrickpints wrote: »
    when filling in the application form, section A employment record do you have to include dates or just months you started jobs? how exact do you have to be?

    Only the months and year. You don't need the exact dates.


  • #19
    patrickpints
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ✭patrickpints


    perfect thanks


  • #20
    patrickpints
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ✭patrickpints


    any idea what they look into with previous employers? references?

    Any advice for the supplementary information section?


  • #21
    Bartholemew Mills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4 ✭Bartholemew Mills


    patrickpints wrote: »
    any idea what they look into with previous employers? references?

    Any advice for the supplementary information section?

    They won't be looking for references from previous employers until you pass the interview stage, at the very least.

    As regards the supplementary information, simply add whatever you think may be relevant in support of your application. Perhaps you play sports (that shows that you're a team player), perhaps you train in martial arts (that shows that you're into fitness and you most likely know how to handle yourself in a situation), things like that. Be creative and tell them about yourself, there's no 'wrong' answers as such. Just make sure you're comfortable talking about the things that you mention as it may come up in the interview. Best of luck.


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  • #22
    callum21
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭callum21


    patrickpints wrote: »
    anyone do the interview last year? how difficult was it and how long roughly?

    I just did the interview a couple of weeks ago. I was in there for 50 mins, We were laughing and joking at the end of it too, Have good detailed answers related to previous employment and you will have nothing to worry about. Best of luck. Its such a long process.


  • #23
    JJss1988
    Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭JJss1988


    Now that the closing date has passed what is the timeframe regarding the Online Tests?


  • #24
    niallerire
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭niallerire


    hey guys just a quick question. A friend of mine had been caught with a small amount of drugs but he didnt get a conviction, He stil wants to apply to the prion offers.. would it be woth his time? can any prison offier on this tell me what the vetting part it like??


  • #25
    po candidate
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭po candidate


    niallerire wrote: »
    hey guys just a quick question. A friend of mine had been caught with a small amount of drugs but he didnt get a conviction, He stil wants to apply to the prion offers.. would it be woth his time? can any prison offier on this tell me what the vetting part it like??

    Not a RPO however I should be starting training soon. Vetting takes a long time and it seems thorough although I'm not sure what they consider a serious problem, apparently it's not as difficult as the Garda recruitment vetting. I'm from 2018 campaign and in that forum there were a few posts at the start about vetting. Maybe have a look there! Ultimately there's no way of knowing for certain until you go through the process.


  • #26
    CplMick
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭CplMick


    niallerire wrote: »
    hey guys just a quick question. A friend of mine had been caught with a small amount of drugs but he didnt get a conviction, He stil wants to apply to the prion offers.. would it be woth his time? can any prison offier on this tell me what the vetting part it like??

    If you have a criminal conviction or have been on remand in prison even with out conviction then it is a waste of time applying you won't get in. As to somebody else who asked traffic offense's fall into different categories and there for it depends on the type of charge or conviction same with public order offense's...
    Been caught with drugs and not been charged... Hmm while not a conviction it is suggestive of been a drug user which means compromised before even starting and while it may slip thru a security check you have to ask?? do you want to start a high pressure job dealing with scum who will try to compromise you from day one being already subject to a possible compromise???


  • #27
    Kellea
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭Kellea


    Has anyone heard back regarding the online assessments yet?


  • #28
    JJss1988
    Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭JJss1988


    Kellea wrote: »
    Has anyone heard back regarding the online assessments yet?

    No I have not heard anything but maybe it is still a bit early?
    I am not sure what the timelines are.


  • #29
    sazxox
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭sazxox


    Does anyone know how many initial jobs there are or is the 216 panel based??


  • #30
    CplMick
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭CplMick


    sazxox wrote: »
    Does anyone know how many initial jobs there are or is the 216 panel based??

    Most things with in the service are panel based so I would believe this recruitment drive will be the same.
    If you get thru the process, you'd be placed on a panel then training course places will be offered to those on it till the panel is finished.
    You may find for those high enough placed on the panel that you could end up in training with some those from the previous panel that is coming to an end.


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  • #31
    CplMick
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭CplMick


    private89 wrote: »

    Would coming from the Army help or is that a

    A lot of Officers are ex P.D.F or R.D.F it does show you inclined to Public Service etc. so it can help yes especial if you've U.N. overseas time served.
    If ex P.D.F. you can carry a portion of your service


  • #32
    Micks1988
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭Micks1988


    Hi guys, I applied for the prison service the application closed last month haven't heard anything back. Anybody any idea of how long I'll be waiting to hear back thanks


  • #33
    irishgirl91
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭irishgirl91


    Micks1988 wrote: »
    Hi guys, I applied for the prison service the application closed last month haven't heard anything back. Anybody any idea of how long I'll be waiting to hear back thanks

    Hi. I'm not too sure when the aptitude testing will begin ( hopefully sometime soon ) just make sure your notifications are set up on public jobs. I applied last year and it was a few weeks between closing date and stage 1 if I can remember correctly..


  • #34
    CplMick
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭CplMick


    This maybe of interest to all of you hoping to join the service

    http://trap.ncirl.ie/1780/1/joyceclarke.pdf

    Best of luck with your application


  • #35
    irishgirl91
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭irishgirl91


    Assessment questionnaire invitation is open now guys .. you have until before noon on the Tuesday 9th to complete it


  • #36
    Abbey127
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 127 ✭✭Abbey127


    Hi does anyone know can they fail you on the Assessment questionnaire ?


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  • #37
    po candidate
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭po candidate


    Abbey127 wrote: »
    Hi does anyone know can they fail you on the Assessment questionnaire ?


    Yes, you can fail it. I failed it before but I've no idea how or why. It's not something you can practice for. Make sure you read the familiarisation booklet and try answer the questions with the job description and the Competencies in mind. No hard and fast rule though, just answer the best you can! Best of luck.


  • #38
    CplMick
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭CplMick


    ..... Assessment questionnaire .....

    .... Do Not Have somebody else do it for you it will show up in the next part ....
    .... And Yes People have tried it and been found out before ....
    .... You Have Been informed ....

    Best of Luck to all


  • #39
    Abbey127
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 127 ✭✭Abbey127


    po candidate wrote: »
    Yes, you can fail it. I failed it before but I've no idea how or why. It's not something you can practice for. Make sure you read the familiarisation booklet and try answer the questions with the job description and the Competencies in mind. No hard and fast rule though, just answer the best you can! Best of luck.

    Didn't know you could fail as they said there is no right or wrong answer . Thanks for the help


  • #40
    Bartholemew Mills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4 ✭Bartholemew Mills


    For those of you applying for the role, what are your reasons for doing so?
    I'm genuinely interested to hear why people wish to join the Prison Service. It's well documented that it's a very difficult and stressful job with relatively low pay, at least for the early years of one's service. Is it security of tenure? The pension? Do you think you can make a positive influence in offenders' lives? All of the above?


  • #41
    CplMick
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭CplMick


    Bartholemew Mills wrote: »
    For those of you applying for the role, what are your reasons for doing so?
    I'm genuinely interested to hear why people wish to join the Prison Service. It's well documented that it's a very difficult and stressful job with relatively low pay, at least for the early years of one's service. Is it security of tenure? The pension? Do you think you can make a positive influence in offenders' lives? All of the above?


    Can I ask why You are asking this first !!!!
    Have you applied yourself or are you serving?

    Thinking of Applying?

    Doing some sort of Thesis into recruitment?
    Or are you doing a Psychological course or something similar?
    Your comment and Question's could seem very Loaded and Personal to a suspicious mind.

    People deserve a more full statement of your Reason not Just "I'm genuinely interested to hear"


    But I will give you My answer all of the above and none of the above My reason's at the time was not something I could explain even to Myself other then it Just seem the right thing for me.


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  • #42
    sazxox
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭sazxox


    Just done the questionnaire - it seemed fairly straight forward which worries me now, especially if you can fail it which I didn't know!!

    Anyways, after the aptitude deadline closes, anyone know a timeframe for results?


  • #43
    irishgirl91
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭irishgirl91


    sazxox wrote: »
    Just done the questionnaire - it seemed fairly straight forward which worries me now, especially if you can fail it which I didn't know!!

    Anyways, after the aptitude deadline closes, anyone know a timeframe for results?

    I know what you mean I did it and it didnt seem that bad at all straight forward for sure.. but you just hope that your answers were good enough too at the same time..

    ah i imagine if you pass and you are successful will be invited to sit the rest of the aptitude testing for stage 1 ( if its a fail for anyone surely they wouldnt be allowed to progress ) and the results will be given after the rest of those tests are completed .. it could be a few weeks give or take


  • #44
    irishgirl91
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭irishgirl91


    CplMick wrote: »
    Can I ask why You are asking this first !!!!
    Have you applied yourself or are you serving?

    Thinking of Applying?

    Doing some sort of Thesis into recruitment?
    Or are you doing a Psychological course or something similar?
    Your comment and Question's could seem very Loaded and Personal to a suspicious mind.

    People deserve a more full statement of your Reason not Just "I'm genuinely interested to hear"


    But I will give you My answer all of the above and none of the above My reason's at the time was not something I could explain even to Myself other then it Just seem the right thing for me.

    eagerly waiting for his reply here :D;)


  • #45
    sazxox
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭sazxox


    The aptitude tests are out :)


  • #46
    irishgirl91
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭irishgirl91


    Best of luck in stage 1 everyone!

    Deadline is 12 noon Wednesday 17th 2019


  • #47
    Star hurl
    Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭Star hurl


    I gather that if you recieved an invitation for the appitude that you passed the questionare... ?


  • #48
    sazxox
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭sazxox


    Star hurl wrote: »
    I gather that if you recieved an invitation for the appitude that you passed the questionare... ?

    I thought everyone gets the aptitude tests weather they pass the questionnaire or not no?


  • #49
    po candidate
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭po candidate


    Star hurl wrote: »
    I gather that if you recieved an invitation for the appitude that you passed the questionare... ?


    Not Quite ! The questionnaire is done separately to the aptitude tests but everyone is invited to both. The results of the questionnaire are not reviewed until the aptitudes are done then the results are out at the same time for all. In the results you'll be provided with your score, the minimum score required and the If you passed or not.


  • #50
    starstothesun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭starstothesun


    Aptitute Completed! Just felt With maths hadnt enough time to calculate and get the answer! Anyone know with the three sections to the aptotude test are they all counted or just Verbal and Job Sim? And is there a certain pass rate that has to he got on each one or is it and overall mark? Im just feeling the maths let me down!


  • #51
    daniel1390
    Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭daniel1390


    Ye 100%agree did mine there this morning the maths one not enough time in that section


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