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TV's with MPEG4 DTT decoder

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  • #1202
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    good for 4:3 content and PC though.
    esp. if it 1920 x1200 instead of 1920 x1080 (review confirms it is PC Widescreen 1920 x1200)

    2 x 576 lines = 1152, not 1080.
    1920x 1200 will run 1600x1200, 960 x 600 or 800x 600 games very nice.

    16:10 = 1.6:1 format Dr Strangelove will be good if you can find an 1.66 version! :)

    Most decent films are wider than 16:9 (1.78:1), varying from 1.85:1 to 2.7:1. A few are black bars at side 1.66:1 apart from Classics in Academy format (almost anything before 1951) which is close to 4:3 = 1.33:1 and usually cropped to 1.33 from the native 1.375:1(only Silent Era was actually 1.33:1 and Electronic TV started as 5:4 = 1.25:1 and switched in 1949 or 1950 I think...)
    All studio films shot in 35mm from 1932 to 1952 were shot in the Academy ratio. However, following the widescreen "revolution" of 1953, it quickly became an obsolete production format. Within several months, all major studios started matting their non-anamorphic films in the projector to wider ratios such as 1.66, 1.75, and 1.85, the latter of which is still considered a standard ratio along with anamorphic (2.35). 1.37:1 is not totally obsolete, nonetheless, and can still be found in selected recent films such as Gus Van Sant's Elephant.

    Get used to black bars for Classic content and OAR films.

    However, for any normal sized room I'd regard 37" as minimum WideScreen size (28" WS is like 21" or less 4:3 set). For HD you want bigger.

    It's a very intimate study that would want 28" for WS or esp. WS HD.

    I'd be happier with that as a console or PC monitor that's for occasional TV in a Den/Study/Workshop/Kitchen.


  • #1203
    lor2ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 ✭lor2ie


    http://www.vmaxx.ie/index.php/default/catalog/product/view/id/10573/s/q-media-q15a2d-lcd-dvd-combo/category/530/

    hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if this has mpeg 4 to view the digital rte stations. Yes i have Google it but no help... all it says on the website is..(The Q15A2D Q-Media combines a 16:9, 1366x768-pixel television with an MPEG4-compatible DVD player, making it ideal for smaller rooms.)

    I recently purchased a lcd television (TOSHIBA 32AV733F LCD Television)from same site and it works perfect on the DTT channels. I have tried contacting the website to ask but all i get is "if you have a look at the TV in question later today it will give you all the specs." I did but see nothing new, as confused as ever.. As to argos, they don't seem to have a clue...


  • #1204
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,636 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    lor2ie wrote: »
    http://www.vmaxx.ie/index.php/default/catalog/product/view/id/10573/s/q-media-q15a2d-lcd-dvd-combo/category/530/

    hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if this has mpeg 4 to view the digital rte stations. Yes i have Google it but no help... all it says on the website is..(The Q15A2D Q-Media combines a 16:9, 1366x768-pixel television with an MPEG4-compatible DVD player, making it ideal for smaller rooms.)

    Not MPEG-4. From the specs "MPEG2 tuner"


  • #1205
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    Machinehead wrote: »
    Thanks again STB. Email sent to Panasonic, hope it gets some results. As you've said, all recent Panasonic customers who don't have MHEG5 middleware set up should pester these guys. Just wondering, is it just D25 models or all Panasonics sold in Ireland that don't have MHEG5? Although my understanding from other posters is that a lot of them have the UK option in set up. I figure why they don't have MHEG5 on the D25L is down to freesat availability outside the UK & the inbuilt DVB-S tuner on the D25. (Am I making sense here?)

    Any response ?


  • #1206
    lor2ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 ✭lor2ie


    ah. thanks "The crush" so just look for the tuner specs the fact that it has MPEG4-compatible DVD player won,t work. Wonder what that is used for then!! Right got small lcd telly to return to argos....they really should get someone in there that knows all this stuff... thanks again.


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  • #1207
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    lor2ie wrote: »
    ah. thanks "The crush" so just look for the tuner specs the fact that it has MPEG4-compatible DVD player won,t work. Wonder what that is used for then!! Right got small lcd telly to return to argos....they really should get someone in there that knows all this stuff... thanks again.

    MPEG4 in this case refers to the DVD player and it ability to play Divx files from Disc. Its a common mistake. The part level is important. This will not MPEG4 decode broadcast streams.

    When you see MPEG4 in the tuner it is MPEG4 H264 or MPEG4/AVC.


  • #1208
    Machinehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Machinehead


    @ STB.
    No response yet. Their last reply took a couple of weeks "due to technical problems". Their website & the manual, which they reiterate, says that the TV was only compatible with operational services in specific countries as of 01/01/2010, Ireland is not included & I don't think anything I say or do will alter their position on the fact that the TV is not guarenteed to work on any other systems. I guess that I will just have to hold out for an upgrade that I hope will activate MHEG5 functionality.


  • #1209
    Pangea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Ended up returning the Ex503, had a noticeable delay for gaming.
    Anyone know if the ex401 would get Irish digital?
    Theres no freeview hd.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-KDL40EX401U-40-inch-Widescreen-Freeview/dp/B003BVI4BW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1287352527&sr=8-1


  • #1210
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Pangea wrote: »
    Ended up returning the Ex503, had a noticeable delay for gaming.
    Anyone know if the ex401 would get Irish digital?
    Theres no freeview hd.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-KDL40EX401U-40-inch-Widescreen-Freeview/dp/B003BVI4BW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1287352527&sr=8-1
    Can't find it on the sony site but a number of the reviews include the spec sheet stating an mpeg 4 tuner so yes it would work if thats the case but get the manual in the shop and see the spec sheet hard copy

    Heres the dabs spec sheet for it

    http://www.dabs.com/products/sony-kdl40ex401u-40--lcd-tv-70J5.html

    Click on the specs tab at the bottom left.


  • #1211
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,636 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Pangea wrote: »
    Anyone know if the ex401 would get Irish digital?
    Theres no freeview hd.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-KDL40EX401U-40-inch-Widescreen-Freeview/dp/B003BVI4BW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1287352527&sr=8-1

    Yes, Sony specs - http://www.sony.co.uk/product/t32-ex-series/kdl-40ex401#pageType=TechnicalSpecs

    Some non DVB-T2 TVs listed on the Sony UK site now have the following in the specs (including the one above) High Definition TV Tuner (MPEG-4) - H.264 (with supported operators) - YES


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  • #1212
    Pangea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Thanks for that guys, thats good then , might go for the 401 then , the 403 looks good for gaming too but I think that the currys deal has expired by now.


  • #1213
    Pangea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Just found the 403 on argos for the same price as Black Briar got it for in Currys a few weeks ago.
    Doubt you will get it cheaper anywhere else at the moment.

    http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/5368981/c_1/1|category_root|Home+entertainment+and+sat+nav|14419512/c_2/2|cat_14419512|Televisions|14419667.htm

    Im not very tempted at the thought of buying a tv in argos though, think I would prefer a tv shop. Maybe I am being old fashioned.


  • #1214
    rsmike
    Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭rsmike


    Pangea wrote: »
    Just found the 403 on argos for the same price as Black Briar got it for in Currys a few weeks ago.
    Doubt you will get it cheaper anywhere else at the moment.

    http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/5368981/c_1/1|category_root|Home+entertainment+and+sat+nav|14419512/c_2/2|cat_14419512|Televisions|14419667.htm

    Im not very tempted at the thought of buying a tv in argos though, think I would prefer a tv shop. Maybe I am being old fashioned.



    I have that feeling also, but the Argos price 599.99 looks really good, I just had a look in Curry's at the weekend and the 403 (40") was €749.99, I mean Argos have the 401(U?) at 829.99, makes me wonder if the 403 price is a mistake?

    BTW, Curry's (Mahon Point, Cork) told me they can't get the 503


  • #1215
    Volcane
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Volcane


    The 503 seems to have come into stock in lots of places during the past few days. Amazon had them at £555 (sterling) for a short time yesterday evening with a 3 year Sony warranty, they are now back to 600 but are out of stock for a while.

    I bought this evening from John Lewis, got the Sony KDL 40ex503u with the Sony 307 Blu-ray for £663 delivered, 5 year warranty on the TV and 2 on the Blu-ray. (a benefit of a Northern address!)

    A panasonic plasma may have been better but couldn't get enough info on the tuner specs, Panasonic seem to be doing nothing until saorview is launched. I'm hoping that the Sony will be able to take a update if required.


  • #1216
    Pangea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    rsmike wrote: »
    I have that feeling also, but the Argos price 599.99 looks really good, I just had a look in Curry's at the weekend and the 403 (40") was €749.99, I mean Argos have the 401(U?) at 829.99, makes me wonder if the 403 price is a mistake?

    BTW, Curry's (Mahon Point, Cork) told me they can't get the 503
    Thanks for that,
    The 503 is over priced ,trust me , I just returned it.
    Argos may be the way to go, Yes the prices dont make sense , but they are not a tv company so hopefully its not a mistake.
    Argos comes with one year warranty right?
    If something goes wrong where do you go to , That why I would prefer a tv shop.
    If anyone has prices on the 40EX403 from their local store , please drop it here.
    I think companies are putting up the price of tvs now for christmas.


  • #1217
    Pangea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    rsmike wrote: »
    I have that feeling also, but the Argos price 599.99 looks really good, I just had a look in Curry's at the weekend and the 403 (40") was €749.99, I mean Argos have the 401(U?) at 829.99, makes me wonder if the 403 price is a mistake?

    BTW, Curry's (Mahon Point, Cork) told me they can't get the 503

    Good news the 401 is now down to 589 and 403 is down to 591

    http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/5296383.htm


  • #1218
    20/20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭20/20


    May i ask a silly question,what is the difference between the 401 and 403 that can justify that huge price hike,two euro?


  • #1219
    Pangea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    lol, well in the electrical shops the price is a lot more different, i found the 403 was 200 euro dearer than the 401 in one sony centre.

    The main differences are, (I am taking this from a thread somewhere on avforums )

    -BRAVIA ENGINE 3 instead of BRAVIE ENGINE 2 for the EX401
    -Wifi ready capability with a USB stick
    -Bravia Internet Video
    -DLNA
    -Freeview HD vs simple freeview
    -cosmetic differencies

    I am not too sure if there is much actual real difference in terms of picture quality etc.
    Also as a gamer I might just go with the 401, it has bravia engine 2 , which is a bit better with game lag than engine 3.


  • #1220
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    20/20 wrote: »
    May i ask a silly question,what is the difference between the 401 and 403 that can justify that huge price hike,two euro?

    Simple 403 - 401 = 2


  • #1221
    Pangea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Volcane wrote: »
    . Amazon had them at £555 (sterling) for a short time yesterday evening with a 3 year Sony warranty, they are now back to 600 but are out of stock for a while.
    We cant purchase tvs on amazon from the Republic im afraid.


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  • #1222
    rsmike
    Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭rsmike


    Hi Pangea, Thanks for the update on Argos prices, that is a significant drop, hopefully puts some downward pressure on everyone else's prices also.

    For various reasons I am holding off until mid November before purchasing, so if you do go for the 401 (or 403) in the meantime, interested to hear how you think its picture quality is versus the 503 you returned.

    I guess the main difference between 403 and 503 is 50Hz versus 100Hz, some say the benefits of 100Hz are over-rated, though I have been sucked into believing it may be a better feature to pay some extra dosh on, rather than on LED backlighting?

    Was your disappointment with the 503 only because of the slow response time for gaming, or were there other aspects also?


  • #1223
    Pangea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Rsmike ,The EX503 is a pretty sublime tv in my opinion ,just not for gaming.
    Picture was great on it.
    However a lot of people have issues with Banding on the their ex503.
    I noticed a bit of vertical banding on my set, nothing major but if you dont know what banding is then dont go looking for it, its a bit like when someone tells you a tap is dripping ,but you didnt notice it dripping before but now that you noticed it is it just keeps annoying you soo much that you have to get a new tap. lol
    On the HZ matter , HZ is only really important for people that watch sports , for gaming and movies HZ is recommened to be switched OFF anyways , so in my opinion unless you really want to spend your cash, just go for a 50hz.

    100 hz reduces blur on a football for instance in a match. But is not worth an extra 200 euro in my opinion , plus the more hz there is generally more lag for gaming too.


  • #1224
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    It might increase blur!


  • #1225
    rsmike
    Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭rsmike


    Pangea wrote: »
    On the HZ matter , HZ is only really important for people that watch sports , for gaming and movies HZ is recommened to be switched OFF anyways , so in my opinion unless you really want to spend your cash, just go for a 50hz.

    100 hz reduces blur on a football for instance in a match. But is not worth an extra 200 euro in my opinion , plus the more hz there is generally more lag for gaming too.

    OK, thanks for that, my main TV viewing is movies, so maybe 50 Hz is even recommended.
    PS: I was into x-box games at one point but found it sucked up so much time, I discontinued it in favor of real world activities, :D


  • #1226
    Pangea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    rsmike wrote: »
    OK, thanks for that, my main TV viewing is movies, so maybe 50 Hz is even recommended.
    PS: I was into x-box games at one point but found it sucked up so much time, I discontinued it in favor of real world activities, :D
    Youre right it does suck up a lot of time, but its great though :D


  • #1227
    pigeon1916
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭pigeon1916


    Pangea wrote: »
    Good news the 401 is now down to 589 and 403 is down to 591

    http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/5296383.htm

    I bought the 403 today in Power City. I got it off them just below the Argos price.
    Very happy :D with the purchase. Picked up all the Irish DTT channels with no problems.


  • #1228
    EdmondShiels3
    Registered Users Posts: 489 ✭✭EdmondShiels3


    pigeon1916

    What is the EPG like on the 403, does it give full listings and does it give seven days of listings. Digital text does that work as well. I am thinking of buying one and want to know how well it pick up the new Irish dtt. are you receiving any of the hd test.


  • #1229
    pigeon1916
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭pigeon1916


    EdmondShiels3 wrote: »
    pigeon1916

    What is the EPG like on the 403, does it give full listings and does it give seven days of listings. Digital text does that work as well. I am thinking of buying one and want to know how well it pick up the new Irish dtt. are you receiving any of the hd test.

    Yes, It gives you the 7 day EPG.
    Digital Text works well.
    Yes, The RTE HD Test is now showing some views of Dublin with music.
    The remote has a handy button that brings up the instruction manual.

    The TV seems to have a lot more extras that I am still getting used to.


  • #1230
    p.oconnor
    Registered Users Posts: 548 ✭✭✭p.oconnor


    hi lads we are thinking of buying a television for christmas i have found a 32in in power city just wondering what yer views on it are and weather it would definatly pick up saorview

    thanks for any replys

    http://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-12-WP3211


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  • #1231
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,636 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    p.oconnor wrote: »
    hi lads we are thinking of buying a television for christmas i have found a 32in in power city just wondering what yer views on it are and weather it would definatly pick up saorview

    thanks for any replys

    http://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-12-WP3211

    It's the only manufacturer whose products are currently licensed to carry the Saorview (100% Irish DTT compliant) logo.

    It will definitely work with Saorview DTT. It's the first product I've seen on sale to carry the logo.

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  • #1232
    Pangea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Yes I noticed on powercitys website a few days ago the saorview logo, lets hope they start rolling out the logos nationwide now.

    pigeon1916 wrote: »
    I bought the 403 today in Power City. I got it off them just below the Argos price.
    Very happy with the purchase. Picked up all the Irish DTT channels with no problems.
    Does that come with a warranty? Im not familar with Power citys service. Sounds like a good deal on the price :) well done.


  • #1233
    zdooldreb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭zdooldreb


    I have read through most of this thread and it has been very helpful.
    I'm looking to buy a new 22-24 inch TV that will double as a PC monitor. I made the following list requirements for myself.

    22 -24 Inch
    DVB-T/Mpeg 4
    PC Connector VGA
    *2 Scart connectors
    *2 HDMI connectors
    USB connector
    Mpeg 5 (not a major factor)
    I have been looking at LG and Samsung. They don't meet all the requirements mainly the number of connectors. Also im not positive the Tuners in these are compatible in Ireland (Mpeg 4). Can anyone confirm that they are? Can anyone provide any better alternatives?

    Lastly, can the same model TV have different Tuners in different countries? E.g. Could the 22LD320 have and Mpeg 2 Tuner in England and the same 22LD320 have an MPEG 4 tuner in Ireland? The reason I ask is this could mess things up if ordering off amazon.co.uk.
    Thanks.


  • #1234
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Yes, the same basic model can be different, indicated by a letter or digit. This has been true maybe 35 years ...

    These are TNT HD, so do have MPEG4    , but MHP instead of MHEG5 as they are for French market. I'd not assume that MHEG5 (not Mpeg5) isn't a major factor.

    Unless you are going to do all TV viewing less than 1.2m or all PC viewing more than 1.2m, a screen for PC and TV is an awkward compromise.

    "HD Ready" often means PC WXGA of 1366 x 768. Which indeed these both are. My experience is that 22" is a bit large for "only" 1366 x768 WS on PC unless it's mostly for games and that 1366 x768 "HD Ready" is minimum for ordinary SD TV, especially Analogue and Cable due to aliasing issues, but poor for actual HD which is 1440 x1080 or 1920 x 1080, but then 22" is very small for HD unless you are only about 1.2m / 4' viewing distance. 37" is really a minimum for HD in an average room.

    Conclusion:
    These are good size for PC game play and do support MPEG4, but lack MHEG5 which may be more important than you think. If you only want to watch Odd TV program on the basic Channels in Kitchen /Study/Bedsit it may be a reasonable purchase.

    If you want a "main" TV for Living room and not miss out, then get 36" "Full HD" or larger set with "Freeview HD" (UK, not an HD set with basic Freeview) or Saorview logo, rather than HD Ready "TNT HD" (French).


  • #1235
    zdooldreb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭zdooldreb


    Thanks for the reply Watty.
    I would be using it primarily as a PC monitor but not really for gaming.
    Do you mean all PC viewing more than 1.2 meters away? If so can I adjust the TV to be more suitable for PC viewing within 1.2m?
    To use as a PC monitor I should be looking for a resolution of 1440 x1080 or 1920 x 1080?
    What advantage does mheg5 provide?
    Once all letters and numbers are the same then the features should be exactly the same in all countries, correct?


  • #1236
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Depends what sort of work you do

    If it is mostly A4 Documents, then 18" 1920x 1200 (16:10) or 16" 1600x1200 (4:3) is best.

    1366 x 768 is best about 15" as a PC monitor non-gaming. 22" @ 1366x768 is too low a resolution for PC work unless gaming.

    If you want mostly PC and some TV, then look for 17" to 22" 1920 x 1080 or 1920 x 1200


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  • #1237
    Doodah7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭Doodah7


    pigeon1916 wrote: »
    I bought the 403 today in Power City. I got it off them just below the Argos price.
    Very happy :D with the purchase. Picked up all the Irish DTT channels with no problems.
    Pangea wrote: »
    Does that come with a warranty? Im not familar with Power citys service. Sounds like a good deal on the price :) well done.

    Picked up the 403 in Powercity yesterday. They are doing (through Sony) a FIVE year warranty on this TV. Apparently the warranty offer expires the end of this month (31st). Rather pay the tenner extra for the warranty.


  • #1238
    pigeon1916
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭pigeon1916


    tallpaul wrote: »
    Picked up the 403 in Powercity yesterday. They are doing (through Sony) a FIVE year warranty on this TV. Apparently the warranty offer expires the end of this month (31st). Rather pay the tenner extra for the warranty.

    Same as Tallpaul, You get 1 year from Power City and they give you a Sony form with the Power City stamp on it to post away, this gives you the extra 4 years to make up 5.

    Just ask for the tenner off. The sales person should give you that.
    Another tip, I was buying more than one item off power city and I made what I thought was a very reasonable offer to the sales guy, But he would not accept it. I went home and emailed Power City online with the same offer. Within 5 mins I had a call back accepting the offer. I went back to the store with my money and the transaction # they emailed me and collected my Items.:)


  • #1239
    Pangea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Sounds great guys,
    However seeing as powercity is on the other side of the country to me ,if my tv did break down, how would i go about getting it fixed?
    Im guessing powercity would have to collect it , and I wonder at whos expense would that be? thats my only concern.
    I feel more comfortable with a walk in shop near my location. Handiness is important.


  • #1240
    Pangea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    The argos 40EX403 went up by 300 euro today. 401 is way up too.


  • #1241
    pigeon1916
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭pigeon1916


    Pangea wrote: »
    The argos 40EX403 went up by 300 euro today. 401 is way up too.

    WOW! That is some difference.
    I would imagine that they bumped up the price so they can have it back on sale before Christmas.

    I think that by law, They have to have it on sale at one price for a certain amount of days before the can legally say it is now on sale at a 30% discount.

    I just checked the Power City web site and it is still €599 and my local Sony shop are looking for over €700.


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  • #1242
    Pangea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Indeed it is a big difference, they had it at the lower price for the past 2 weeks now ,its gone up to its orignal price again.
    My local sony has the 403 at 790 euro, but Sony are now starting give vat back promotion , you will get 21% sent back in cheque .So that should take a bit off the price.
    Not sure where to buy mine, every shop has different prices , even some of the sony centres prices vary a lot .
    Think Il go with the EX401, It probably has better lag for gaming than the EX403 because its a bravia engine 2.


  • #1243
    aldente
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭aldente


    Pangea wrote: »
    Indeed it is a big difference, they had it at the lower price for the past 2 weeks now ,its gone up to its orignal price again.
    My local sony has the 403 at 790 euro, but Sony are now starting give vat back promotion , you will get 21% sent back in cheque .So that should take a bit off the price.
    Not sure where to buy mine, every shop has different prices , even some of the sony centres prices vary a lot .
    Think Il go with the EX401, It probably has better lag for gaming than the EX403 because its a bravia engine 2.

    It's worthwhile to check over different Sony Centre shops since they are franchised (not owned by Sony) in Ireland, which means that there's a chance that any keen one of them might give you a better price than another.


  • #1244
    aldente
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭aldente


    zdooldreb wrote: »
    Once all letters and numbers are the same then the features should be exactly the same in all countries, correct?
    Regarding models from country to country, I would suggest checking the relevant pdf user manuals and brochures for the exact specs as well as asking questions in forums. If you do not see a model in Ireland which is one of the mainstream models in the UK or another European country, there is usually a reason behind as to why it is not distributed over here, which may not manifest itself in catalogue numbers.
    That's my 2 cents.


  • #1245
    BArra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,036 ✭✭✭BArra


    does anyone have an LG 42PJ550, available from currys and pcworld?

    trying to find out does it have mpeg4 for the irish dtt but cannot find a definitive answer from the web, their spec sheet and pdf dont seem to tell you what it has either..

    http://www.lg.com/uk/tv-audio-video/televisions/LG-plasma-tv-42PJ550.jsp


  • #1246
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    aldente wrote: »
    Regarding models from country to country, I would suggest checking the relevant pdf user manuals and brochures for the exact specs as well as asking questions in forums. If you do not see a model in Ireland which is one of the mainstream models in the UK or another European country, there is usually a reason behind as to why it is not distributed over here, which may not manifest itself in catalogue numbers.
    That's my 2 cents.

    I have a feeling that many models never got here in the past because of the need for VHF tuners for people on Cablelink or UPC. Many UK models were treaked to drop a UHF tuner and replace it with a VHF one. Obviously, if you only had an aerial and maybe a dish, UK TV's were perfect. However, due to Irish DTT using MPEG-4, then many UK models will no longer suit although, as has been widely covered on here, a safer bet is any with the French TNT HD logo.


  • #1247
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    No, now that HD Terrestirial has started in UK, a "Freeview HD" box/TV is MUCH better option than a French TNT HD (MHEG5 vs MHP). Also when ASO occurs in N.I. more people can get UK, than today from Divis and Brougher. Wales is now much better in South East than it was for Analogue.


  • #1248
    copacetic
    Subscribers Posts: 16,592 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    BArra wrote: »
    does anyone have an LG 42PJ550, available from currys and pcworld?

    trying to find out does it have mpeg4 for the irish dtt but cannot find a definitive answer from the web, their spec sheet and pdf dont seem to tell you what it has either..

    http://www.lg.com/uk/tv-audio-video/televisions/LG-plasma-tv-42PJ550.jsp

    You are pretty safe with any brand name TV from Currys or PC World:

    From their MD: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=67013303&postcount=2
    All Branded TVs sold in Currys and PC World are Mpeg 4 ( which is Irish digital compatible) for example LG. Philips. Panasonic, Samsung , Sony


  • #1249
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Actually that's not true. The reply was weasel language and contradictory. Read the labels carefully and look for "Freeview HD", not HD Ready or Full HD and "Freeview" without the HD.


  • #1250
    copacetic
    Subscribers Posts: 16,592 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    watty wrote: »
    Actually that's not true. The reply was weasel language and contradictory. Read the labels carefully and look for "Freeview HD", not HD Ready or Full HD and "Freeview" without the HD.

    Which bit isn't true exactly?


  • #1251
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    The majority of it was untrue. And I am not particularly happy that it went virtually unchallenged for so long. I have replied now but its a little late.


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