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    #1862
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Yawlboy wrote: »
    Check the bottoms of the doors, the bulkhead, the chassis, every steel bit basically for rust. ;)

    I found the biggest cost was new doors when I was restoring mine. The frames tend to rust away on them and new ones are bloody expensive.

    Cheers. He says it’s all solid and the pictures seem to confirm.
    Plan to take it for a spin. Anything to watch out for in that regard?
    Thanks.

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    #1863
    Yawlboy
    Registered Users Posts: 748 ✭✭✭Yawlboy


    Working class heroes wrote: »
    Cheers. He says it’s all solid and the pictures seem to confirm.
    Plan to take it for a spin. Anything to watch out for in that regard?
    Thanks.

    Make sure that it goes through the gears ok, the clutch on them is very heavy and the brakes are so-so. They are a basic vehicle with heavy everything so if you are not used to driving one they can seem very agricultural. However parts are cheap and readily available for them. Rust is the biggest problem.


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    #1864
    Suckler
    Registered Users Posts: 2,170 ✭✭✭Suckler


    Check the swivels on the front hubs for pitting and grease leaking from them.
    Put your hand on the drive shafts and give them a shake to see if the UJ's are in good shape.
    As other posters said; smooth gear changes and rust are the main ones


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    #1865
    iwillhtfu
    Registered Users Posts: 6,367 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    Working class heroes wrote: »
    Cheers. He says it’s all solid and the pictures seem to confirm.
    Plan to take it for a spin. Anything to watch out for in that regard?
    Thanks.

    If it's raining during the test wear wellies :D

    As mentioned rust is your biggest issue. If he's an enthusiast he would probably have undersealed it and a serious enthusiast would have a galvanised chasis and have broken it down and built it up himself so I wouldn't mind the enthusiast bit.

    Don't be afraid to prod a poke every panel including the floors.


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    #1866
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Lads,
    The defender I’m going to look at was imported from the UK last year (no problem with that). However on the MOT site it’s only showing its last MOT(Jan ‘19, pass no advisories). Any thoughts why it’s not showing anymore?
    Thanks.

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    #1867
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Working class heroes wrote: »
    Lads,
    The defender I’m going to look at was imported from the UK last year (no problem with that). However on the MOT site it’s only showing its last MOT(Jan ‘19, pass no advisories). Any thoughts why it’s not showing anymore?
    Thanks.

    Lads, any thoughts on the MOT issue?
    He says he is not sure but it may have spent most of its life in Gernsey.

    Chassis has been repaired in the past but it’s rock solid at the moment. Bulk head seems grand. The only corrosion I spotted was at the bottom of the back door frame. A small hole.
    All in all it seems very sold, everything works and it drives dry well. Gears nice and smooth.
    I know it’s not an easy ask but what opinions are would you all have on something like this price wise.

    Thanks.

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    #1868
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Ah, I think I’ll be passing on this one. As I said it looks ok but just too many unanswered questions on its history.

    Anyway if anyone out there is selling a pre 1990 defender 90/110, might consider an early 90’s example.
    Must be solid and clean with a test. All styles considered so please drop me a PM.

    Someone please take my money!!!:)

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    #1869
    wrcarter
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭wrcarter


    I thought I’d add to this thread to keep it alive. I’ve just picked up my first defender. A 1989 110 CSW. It’s in reasonably good shape but does need some work. A bit of rust starting on the bulkhead and could do with doors sooner rather than later. Chassis has been repaired but seems solid now. Sunroof leaks but that seems common.

    I’m planning to tidy it up as opposed to a full resto. I like the patina look it has at the moment but if I put on new doors, I won’t be able to match it so going to have to respray it at some point.

    Where do ye normally order your parts from. There are some good uk LR sites but I’m not sure how they are going to work with duties/Vat etc.


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    #1870
    Nekarsulm
    Registered Users Posts: 11,191 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Congrats on your Landy purchase!
    Its getting onfor 20 years since I was buying pars for a 90, but I dealt with these guys back then and had no complaints at all.
    Dunno where you are based, but it's a 2 hour drive from me in Co. Cavan.

    https://www.blrcvehiclespecialist.co.uk


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    #1871
    emaherx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,961 ✭✭✭emaherx


    wrcarter wrote: »
    I thought I’d add to this thread to keep it alive. I’ve just picked up my first defender. A 1989 110 CSW. It’s in reasonably good shape but does need some work. A bit of rust starting on the bulkhead and could do with doors sooner rather than later. Chassis has been repaired but seems solid now. Sunroof leaks but that seems common.

    I’m planning to tidy it up as opposed to a full resto. I like the patina look it has at the moment but if I put on new doors, I won’t be able to match it so going to have to respray it at some point.

    Where do ye normally order your parts from. There are some good uk LR sites but I’m not sure how they are going to work with duties/Vat etc.

    I'm fairly sure the doors of an unrestored 80's defender are not ment to match the original paintwork. :D


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    #1872
    wrcarter
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭wrcarter


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Congrats on your Landy purchase!
    Its getting onfor 20 years since I was buying pars for a 90, but I dealt with these guys back then and had no complaints at all.
    Dunno where you are based, but it's a 2 hour drive from me in Co. Cavan.

    https://www.blrcvehiclespecialist.co.uk

    Cheers, the are based in the north so could be similar issues with vat etc. I might just wait a week or two until everyone figures out what’s going on. I’m from Laois so a bit of a spin but if getting a few parts it might justify it.


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    #1873
    leinsterdude
    Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭leinsterdude


    any thoughts on the new defenders ?


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    #1874
    wrcarter
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭wrcarter


    emaherx wrote: »
    I'm fairly sure the doors of an unrestored 80's defender are not ment to match the original paintwork. :D

    I agree. If it wasn’t for the few bits of rust I’d leave the patina. My wife doesn’t like it though. I am hoping to use it for family days out etc so I need to make it look “acceptable”. A PO used to take it across Europe for holidays.


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    #1875
    Nekarsulm
    Registered Users Posts: 11,191 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    wrcarter wrote: »
    Cheers, the are based in the north so could be similar issues with vat etc. I might just wait a week or two until everyone figures out what’s going on. I’m from Laois so a bit of a spin but if getting a few parts it might justify it.

    It's not the VAT that might be a problem ( although, it seems like there may be no tariffs between NI and Rep.Ire) it would be the import duty and the Irish Customs.....
    Pretty much unavoidable if you ordered by courier, but 95% avoidable if collecting yourself.....


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    #1876
    iwillhtfu
    Registered Users Posts: 6,367 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    wrcarter wrote: »
    I agree. If it wasn’t for the few bits of rust I’d leave the patina. My wife doesn’t like it though. I am hoping to use it for family days out etc so I need to make it look “acceptable”. A PO used to take it across Europe for holidays.

    No offence OP but I couldn't imagine a worse family vehicle particularly for long road trips. The newer pumas probably wouldn't be terrible to be fair. If carrying the family I'd look seriously into a roll cage.

    As for the rust and petina, there will be no shortage of either over the years and like an iceberg the rust you can see will only be the tip. You mention the chassis has been repaired which means the rot was there I'd be checking to make sure whoever repaired it hasn't just moved the problem further along the chassis.

    Silicone will fix the sunroof but it could be coming in from several other places. Window seals,bulk head, front vents.


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    #1877
    banjolin
    Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭banjolin


    leinsterdude wrote: »
    any thoughts on the new defenders ?


    Nope.


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    #1878
    Nekarsulm
    Registered Users Posts: 11,191 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    leinsterdude wrote: »
    any thoughts on the new defenders ?

    Run away, run very fast. :D
    I think from running reports ( on YouTube, admittedly) that Land Rover Defenders are best avoided untill they go100% electrical....


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    #1879
    Marlow
    Registered Users Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    leinsterdude wrote: »
    any thoughts on the new defenders ?
    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Run away, run very fast. :D
    I think from running reports ( on YouTube, admittedly) that Land Rover Defenders are best avoided untill they go100% electrical....

    Just check out the TFLcar channel on their Defender issues ... https://www.youtube.com/c/TFLcar/videos

    They went through 2 broken Defenders, before they got a working one. Each of them at sub 200 km. Well .. one didn't even get delivered, cause the dealers cut through a loom to install a winch just to find out, that said loom can't be replaced. At least not easily.

    And even when they finally got their current one, it throws all sort of sensors faults, when offroading. Silly stuff.

    /M


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    #1880
    Nekarsulm
    Registered Users Posts: 11,191 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Ha! I have a 3 litre Trooper that I'd trust before I'd trust a brand new Defender at that rate of going.
    Saved myself €84,000 into the bargain!
    Wouldn't say "no" to a 200 tdi Disco if it was solid and most of the bits worked, though.


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    #1881
    leinsterdude
    Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭leinsterdude


    thats gas, they look class, commercial hard top coming soon, about 40k for a 90 hard top.


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    #1882
    scotchy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,182 ✭✭✭scotchy


    Halfords selling Castrol Magnatec 5W30 A5 half price at the moment.

    https://www.halfords.ie/motoring/engine-oils-fluids/engine-oil/castrol-magnatec-5w30-a5-oil-4-litre-918672.html

    .

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    #1883
    oldsmokey
    Registered Users Posts: 783 ✭✭✭oldsmokey


    Didn’t much like them at the start, spent an hour nitpicking at Johnson and Perrott s cork, the gra started to grow...but pure and simple, they’re overpriced and unreliable...who the hell wants that?..


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    #1884
    RiderOnTheStorm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭RiderOnTheStorm


    looking to bump an old thread ....

    And ...

    Anyone have any success with installing a middle front seat on a 110?

    Background: my son finally got the Defender of his dreams (has been looking for years) and it has 2 seats up front (not bench) and 2 side-facing benches in the back. He plans on converting back into mini-camper for weekends away with wife & kid. So he wants to put child seat up front and adding secure seating between existing seats seems like a no brainer. So I suppose my question is, if a child-seat in the back of a 'normal' car is restrained by a seatbelt, can something similar be done up front in Defender? Of does it have to be store bought Landy 3rd front seat? Any generic / compatible seats out there?


    thanks in advance



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