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Iran Did Do It..............says Trump

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Gatling wrote: »
    The Iranian leadership Have being exporting terror for numbers of decades do you think the people of Iran want that either

    The Iranian leadership are moderates compared to the nuts who have been in charge of the country before, and look what happens when the moderates sit down with the Americans they get stabbed in the back.

    By the way, I have never seen you slate the Americans the way you have of Iran on this thread, and your quote above is also true and even worse in the case of your beloved U.S. of A.

    When was the last time Iran has attacked or invaded another country?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Gatling wrote: »
    Isreal supposedly.

    ............




    ....no supposedly about it. What did Israel do with its nuclear program? Build a butterfly and flowers farm?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Gatling wrote: »

    Who's being killing their own population for wanting change....

    Saudi Arabia?

    They have chopped the heads off 37 dissidents in the last few months.

    Among those executed is Abdulkareem al-Hawaj – a young Shi’a man who was arrested at the age of 16 and convicted of offences related to his involvement in anti-government protests. Under international law, the use of the death penalty against people who were under the age of 18 at the time of the crime is strictly prohibited.
    AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Limpy


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Saudi Arabia?

    They have chopped the heads off 37 dissidents in the last few months.

    And remember the journalist khasoggi who was mutilated in the Saudi embassy.

    Iran must of sneaked in and did that to frame Saudi Arabia.

    What next, Iranian passports found in ground zero.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Saudi Arabia?

    Iran , every other post from you is Saudi ,


    Go start a thread and tell us all everything you know about saudi.

    Deflect , deflect deflect

    Iran Through it's proxies in Yemen very recently

    Didn't think that through


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Odhinn wrote: »
    ....no supposedly about it. What did Israel do with its nuclear program? Build a butterfly and flowers farm?

    And nothing about the Iranian leadership killing unarmed protesters no ...


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Gatling wrote: »
    Iran , every other post from you is Saudi ,


    Go start a thread and tell us all everything you know about saudi.

    Deflect , deflect deflect


    A bit much from you. The current state of Iran is a result of US interference and Israeli attacks. The US supports the Saudi sectarian campaign against Iran and is complicit in the subjugation of shia islam in the gulf states.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Odhinn wrote: »
    A bit much from you. The current state of Iran is a result of US interference and Israeli attacks.

    So basically not got the stomach to discuss iran slaughtering unarmed protesters but America did this and America did that ...

    Nothing new so


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Gatling wrote: »
    So basically not got the stomach to discuss iran slaughtering unarmed protesters but America did this and America did that ...

    Nothing new so


    Go find a post where I replied favourably to the iranian regime.



    Are you denying Americas role in undermining Iranian democracy? Are you denying Israels sponsorship of anti-Iranian terrorism? Are you denying saudi arabias sectarian campaign against ordinary shia muslims in the gulf region?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Gatling wrote: »
    Iran , every other post from you is Saudi ,


    Go start a thread and tell us all everything you know about saudi.

    Deflect , deflect deflect

    Iran Through it's proxies in Yemen very recently

    Didn't think that through

    You love victim blaming the Iranians. Your just too blinded by your imperialistic views of the world to see it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Odhinn wrote: »

    Are you denying Americas role in undermining Iranian democracy?

    Iran is no democratic country they have sham elections where only selected candidates are allowed run ,by the cleric's and Revolutionary guard .

    Ask why russia and china to a degree supplied the material to push Iran along its nuclear program , America is not the only players in this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    You love victim blaming the Iranians.

    Please stop making stuff up ,

    It got old 5000 threads ago


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Gatling wrote: »
    Iran is no democratic country they have sham elections where only selected candidates are allowed run ,by the cleric's and Revolutionary guard .

    Ask why russia and china to a degree supplied the material to push Iran along its nuclear program , America is not the only players in this




    America not being the only player absolves them of supporting the country that originated the extremist islam that massacred innocents everywhere from India to London and even the states itself? Because there aren't head choppers running around in the name of shia islam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Odhinn wrote: »
    America not being a player absolves them of supporting the country that originated the extremist islam that massacred innocents everywhere from India to London and even the states itself?

    I've never said America is innocent or they haven't made serious ****ing mistakes but there is other countries involved too ,
    But certain posters are only interested in anti US agendas

    I don't support American foreign policies , trump ,Bolton ,I didn't support the invasion of Iraq 2nd time around ,nor do I believe Saudi are a beacon of hope and democracy and decency (they absolutely do not belong in the civilised or on the UN councils)


    But if people on here want to go back to the battle of little big horn (another disaster) to say America did this and America did that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    You would think it was Iran that had the Samson option and Yinon plan if you believed some of yankee/Zionist hasbara posting here :D.

    Oh well they got to earn their wine and ciggies allowance I suppose ;)


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Limpy


    Gatling wrote: »
    I've never said America is innocent or they haven't made serious ****ing mistakes but there is other countries involved too ,
    But certain posters are only interested in anti US agendas

    I don't support American foreign policies , trump ,Bolton ,I didn't support the invasion of Iraq 2nd time around ,nor do I believe Saudi are a beacon of hope and democracy and decency (they absolutely do not belong in the civilised or on the UN councils)


    But if people on here want to go back to the battle of little big horn (another disaster) to say America did this and America did that.


    Because this whole fiasco is engineered by the US and Israel.

    Your only nit picking Iranian local issues to justify your agenda.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,412 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Hammond Lane wouldn't take the ship the Iranians seized.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Limpy wrote: »

    Your only nit picking Iranian local issues to justify your agenda.

    Next account please


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Gatling wrote: »
    I've never said America is innocent or they haven't made serious ****ing mistakes but there is other countries involved too ,
    But certain posters are only interested in anti US agendas

    I don't support American foreign policies , trump ,Bolton ,I didn't support the invasion of Iraq 2nd time around ,nor do I believe Saudi are a beacon of hope and democracy and decency (they absolutely do not belong in the civilised or on the UN councils)


    But if people on here want to go back to the battle of little big horn (another disaster) to say America did this and America did that.

    It not anti US agenda to point out their flawed foreign policy.Citizens of countries suffer greatly from this agenda.

    You have never thought it may not be all Iran fault here. Iran signed a nuclear deal and all countries agreed it was working. Iran never stepped out of line. Trump removed the United States from a signed agreement. They have caused this mess not Iran. You never once said Trump messed up here and should have worked with Iran to get a better deal!

    There very few countries US has brought democracy to. Libya and Syria are still effectively in turmoil. Iraq still suffering from war and ISIS. Should we just sit back and watch Iran be bombed and in the end nothing will really change?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭1o059k7ewrqj3n


    Gatling wrote: »
    I've never said America is innocent or they haven't made serious ****ing mistakes but there is other countries involved too ,
    But certain posters are only interested in anti US agendas


    I don't support American foreign policies , trump ,Bolton ,I didn't support the invasion of Iraq 2nd time around ,nor do I believe Saudi are a beacon of hope and democracy and decency (they absolutely do not belong in the civilised or on the UN councils)


    But if people on here want to go back to the battle of little big horn (another disaster) to say America did this and America did that.

    Were you not asked ages ago in this thread which country was responsible for putting the Taliban in power, only to reply it was Pakistan?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Steyr 556 wrote: »

    Yawn ......


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Gatling wrote: »
    Iran is no democratic country they have sham elections where only selected candidates are allowed run ,by the cleric's and Revolutionary guard .

    Ask why russia and china to a degree supplied the material to push Iran along its nuclear program , America is not the only players in this

    I hope they do develop nukes, soon, Israel wouldn't be long running back under Americas skirt. US saying it shot down a drone that was shadowing one of its ships, saying Iran is esclating tensions. Iran has every right to observe the activities hostile forces loitering around its borders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling



    You never once said Trump messed up here and should have worked with Iran to get a better deal!

    I have repeatedly said I don't support trump or American foreign policies on multiple threads but yet here we are again you don't do this and you don't do this while America did this and America did that ,
    While conveniently ignoring all other countries involvements and atrocities.

    And sorry Iran isn't completely innocent in all of this Obama got the deal , trump ripped it up ,
    Iran has been exporting terror for decades they are involved from Afghanistan ,Iraq and yemen Syria ,gaza Lebanon
    And as I previously said on here sooner or later they will get hit because of their own actions .

    Not the actions of the population but the cleric's and military leaders foised on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I hope they do develop nukes, soon, Israel wouldn't be long running back under Americas skirt.

    Israel would strike Iran if they do develop nukes so that's a pretty stupid suggestion ,
    You can bet one thing the moment Iran declared they have a fully operational nuke ,
    Iran as we know it would cease to exist in my opinion


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    Steyr 556 wrote: »

    Funny,he seems to pull these things from thin air...like when I asked him who invited the US troops into Syria who we all damn well know were there illegally and he told me the Kurds did...still waiting on that link to back it up...


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Gatling wrote: »
    Israel would strike Iran if they do develop nukes so that's a pretty stupid suggestion ,
    You can bet one thing the moment Iran declared they have a fully operational nuke ,
    Iran as we know it would cease to exist in my opinion

    Two or three medium yield nukes would obliterate Israel and well they know it. They would suddenly want diplomacy after all the years of trash talking if Iran had nukes in its possession. The myth of invincible Israel was buried when Hezbollah turned their tanks into scrap metal in southern Lebanon, it was a turkey shoot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭1o059k7ewrqj3n


    Gatling wrote: »
    Israel would strike Iran if they do develop nukes so that's a pretty stupid suggestion ,
    You can bet one thing the moment Iran declared they have a fully operational nuke ,
    Iran as we know it would cease to exist in my opinion

    Israel struck very speedily when Iraq was developing a nascent Nuclear program. Iran, in comparison, is years, if not, decades ahead of where Iraq was, and yet despite US attempts such as Stuxnet and multiple assassinations, appears no closer to ending the Iranian nuclear program.

    Maybe, just maybe, certain elements of the US establishment, especially in the military and intelligence communities, hold the possibility of an Iranian nuclear weapon over Israel, possible as a carrot and stick type program?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Two or three medium yield nukes would obliterate Israel

    The myth of invincible Israel was buried when Hezbollah turned their tanks into scrap metal in southern Lebanon, it was a turkey shoot.

    Not necessarily true ,
    On the tuning tanks into scrap metal , they lost a handful most were actually put back into service between 3 weeks to 6 months later so your making that up (looking for a reaction) .....

    Now tell us how they will get their 2-3 nukes into Israel ,
    It's not so easy to launch a rocket large enough to carry any nuclear warhead and either not get intercepted or hammered before they make it to a launcher ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    On the Iranian drone getting shot down -
    Rumour has it it wasn't shot down instead marines in off road vehicle aboard the USS boxer used a new antidrone system to disable and crash the drone


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Gatling wrote: »
    Not necessarily true ,
    On the tuning tanks into scrap metal , they lost a handful most were actually put back into service between 3 weeks to 6 months later so your making that up (looking for a reaction) .....

    Now tell us how they will get their 2-3 nukes into Israel ,
    It's not so easy to launch a rocket large enough to carry any nuclear warhead and either not get intercepted or hammered before they make it to a launcher ,

    The Emad missile is well capable of delivering a nuclear payload and Iran has missile silos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The Emad missile is well capable of delivering a nuclear payload and Iran has missile silos.

    But currently has no nuclear weapons , meanwhile Israel has the ability to strike anywhere in the middle east with conventional weapons ,
    And that's before we get to their supposed nuclear arsenal .

    Look like a game of Russian roulette where one person has a gun loaded with 6 bullets and the other with maybe one bullet .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Iran says all it's Drones returned safely...looks like it was just some poor Seagull or migrating Egret that got whacked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    archer22 wrote: »
    Iran says all it's Drones returned safely...looks like it was just some poor Seagull or migrating Egret that got whacked.

    Iran denying a drone was shot down. Until America releases footage who can tell if just another lie. Its reported more was going on yesterday. A helicopter belonging to Iran it alleged also approached USS boxer and also alleged a Iranian ship approached the USS boxer and US Helicopter took off and approached the Iranian ship and told it go away.

    Overnight an incident happened. Unidentified aircraft targeted a PMU (Hashd Al-Sha'bi) camp in Iraq. Multiple Hezbollah and IRGC members were killed allegedly. Things are heating up in the region. This attack overnight in Iraq suggests someone is trying to push Iran to react.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Iran denying a drone was shot down. Until America releases footage who can tell if just another lie.

    So Iran claims to have downed a drone you're celebrating the superior Iranian military ,
    America takes an Iranian drone down it's lies



    Your comical


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Iran is running to our own super leo

    The Iranian Ambassador to Ireland has called on the Irish Government to intervene in a diplomatic row between the United States and his country.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2019/0719/1063958-iranian-ambassador-ireland/

    Maybe we can send our navy to protect Iran


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Iran denying a drone was shot down. Until America releases footage who can tell if just another lie. Its reported more was going on yesterday. A helicopter belonging to Iran it alleged also approached USS boxer and also alleged a Iranian ship approached the USS boxer and US Helicopter took off and approached the Iranian ship and told it go away.

    Overnight an incident happened. Unidentified aircraft targeted a PMU (Hashd Al-Sha'bi) camp in Iraq. Multiple Hezbollah and IRGC members were killed allegedly. Things are heating up in the region. This attack overnight in Iraq suggests someone is trying to push Iran to react.

    Of course it's lies. Trump even tried to write a cover story for the lie by adding "it was completely destroyed".
    How the hell could it be completely destroyed, unless it was made of tissue paper and burned!.

    As for engagement between US soldiers and Hezbollah troops that's more bull...if they had there would be dead Americans.
    The last time they clashed 260 American soldiers lay dead and the Empire fled out of Lebanon fast as they could :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling



    Overnight an incident happened. Unidentified aircraft targeted a PMU (Hashd Al-Sha'bi) camp in Iraq. Multiple Hezbollah and IRGC members were killed allegedly.

    By all accounts a single Hand grenade was dropped a small drone likely commercial bought.

    One person either killed or injured - complete opposite to what you claimed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Gatling wrote: »
    By all accounts a single Hand grenade was dropped a small drone likely commercial bought.

    One person either killed or injured - complete opposite to what you claimed

    Was there an incident- yes.
    Was there deaths yes- and now claimed they are Iranian engineers- so mostly likely is true they are IRGC this is Iraq and was an Iranian militia base.
    Reports was an unknown craft yes- now claimed to be a drone.

    I even said it alleged multiple Hezbollah and IRGC were killed, i never said confirmed.

    I never claimed anything i saw a early report of an incident, and happened it seems. There no fake news here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Was there an incident- yes.
    Was there deaths yes-

    Reports was an unknown craft yes- now claimed to be a drone.

    I even said it alleged multiple Hezbollah and IRGC were killed,

    I never claimed anything i saw a early report of an incident

    There no fake news here


    .

    A single death

    Sorry no fake news

    -
    now thats a lie..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Things might improve now...Trump Bolton and Pompeo were seen running out the back door :D
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft6z2QRA1mA


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Gatling wrote: »
    A single death

    Sorry no fake news

    -
    now thats a lie..

    I heard least two to three deaths and injuries. What fake about an attack on Iranian militia base?

    I seeing new stuff online a british tanker has mysteriously divereted off course near Iran. UK MOD is aware of this diversion and will not comment at this time. If Iran has taken a british tanker is going to get messy. Right now its seems to be off course and heading in the wrong direction, but doesn't right now mean the IRGC has taken it but its unusual.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    UK tanker Stena Impero has not updated it position in over an hour. Last known location was in Iranian waters close to IRGC naval base. It highly unusual for ship to not report back its last known position. Tankers are tracked by maritime apps and positions are updated regularly. There no evidence yet was taken, but we have to watch it because it was flying a British flag and there may be British crew on board.

    Why it diverted off course is the unknown right now and unknown if just a mistake?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Hizbullah Brigades: Bombing of The Iraqi Popular Mobilization Headquarters in Amerly bears the fingerprints of The Zionists and The Americans

    Hezbollah made a statement. Something else was targeted last night in Iraq. Seems to be a bigger operation then just a drone dropping a grenade. There maybe have been weapons factories that got hit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Hizbullah Brigades: Bombing of The Iraqi Popular Mobilization Headquarters in Amerly bears the fingerprints of The Zionists and The Americans

    Hezbollah made a statement. Something else was targeted last night in Iraq. Seems to be a bigger operation then just a drone dropping a grenade. There maybe have been weapons factories that got hit.

    Hizbolla propaganda .


    "A senior official with the militias known collectively as the Popular Mobilization Forces told The Associated Press that the attack resulted in the wounding of two Iranians and that the base hit housed advisers from Iran and Lebanon. He said the first attack targeted the headquarters of the advisers, resulting in the wounding of the two Iranians.

    The second attack hit a weapons depot, causing a large fire at the base. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to disclose sensitive information.

    An Iraqi official said IS militants were most likely behind the attack, ruling out a U.S.-led coalition or American attack. He spoke on condition of anonymity in line with regulations."

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/drone-drops-explosives-north-iraq-151458941.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Gatling wrote: »
    Hizbolla propaganda .


    "A senior official with the militias known collectively as the Popular Mobilization Forces told The Associated Press that the attack resulted in the wounding of two Iranians and that the base hit housed advisers from Iran and Lebanon. He said the first attack targeted the headquarters of the advisers, resulting in the wounding of the two Iranians.

    The second attack hit a weapons depot, causing a large fire at the base. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to disclose sensitive information.

    An Iraqi official said IS militants were most likely behind the attack, ruling out a U.S.-led coalition or American attack. He spoke on condition of anonymity in line with regulations."


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/drone-drops-explosives-north-iraq-151458941.html

    Propaganda when it all but confirmed someone attacked an Iranian militia group headquarters last night. I doubt it was ISIS. If anyone it would be an legtitimate target for the Israelis and Americans. Iraq government would downplay this they don't want to be involved in a new war between Iran and United States. There lot more to this incident and not reported.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    British tanker has been taken by IRGC confirmed by Iranian News sources.


    ABC News confirms emergency meetings at the highest level are now convening in the United Kingdom after a British tanker was seized by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps in the Persian Gulf.

    The IRGC allegedly used helicopters in addition to speed boats to capture the tanker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1152277167742603264

    Crisis mode now. Not sure yet if be solved diplomatically or militarily?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling



    Crisis mode now. Not sure yet if be solved diplomatically or militarily?

    What was the claim you made earlier someone is baiting iran seems iran is the aggressor in this .


    Might be time for irans military to be put out of the game


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Gatling wrote: »
    What was the claim you made earlier someone is baiting iran seems iran is the aggressor in this .


    Might be time for irans military to be put out of the game

    They UK seized an Iranian tanker and refused to release it. I expected a reaction and now it happened. Iran a proud nation they were not going to sit back and allow it to go unanswered.

    The problem is were in high tension mode now and if Iran refuses to release the ship, they may intervene militarily with the US.

    There likely very high level meetings happening now at downing street and the white house, we have to wait and see how it all plays out.


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