Judgement day for Maria Bailey.

ChikiChiki · 16-11-2019 12:24pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Her personality is perfect for success in politics.

It's the playing victim card that is not washing well with me. Humanity has been crossed etc. You are all wrong here.... Is that really the mentality of the Irish politician?

16-11-2019 12:24pm

KevRossi wrote: »

A huge amount of them are here neighbors or constituents. Kids in the same schools... invited to the same cosy soirées in each other’s gaffs... bump into each othet in the same upmarket restaurants or holiday resorts.

Bailey has plenty of friends; she got over 40% of the vote that night in the constituency meeting.

The entitled wealthy classes have knives too and aren’t afraid to drive them into somebody’s back.

So the RTE crowd have to be careful about what they say in case they bump into her or her cronies in M&S or Fallon & Byrne’s.

Quite the story you've concocted

Higgins5473 · 16-11-2019 12:37pm

RedParrot wrote: »

This whole entire Maria Bailey falling off a swing erected for photography reasons really is a pack of balls. From the radio interview she admitted to having drinks before going out with her friends, then they bought more drinks in the hotel and she was holding a drink maybe even two on the swing. There's just no personal responsibility whatsoever from her. She claimed she was injured yet she attended a music festival a week later and went on a run or a marathon 3 weeks after the fall. Honestly a blind man can see she's pulling the wool over our eyes.

TV and radio presenters can't really call her out on it though or they will be opening themselves up for libel.

She ran a 10k in 53 minutes, when she was questioned about this the interviewer said that not only was she able to run a ten k injured but she did it in a very good time. She cockily responded that that time was not good for her standards. Incredible stuff, brazen brass necked ****

I just wish the interviewer asked her what her personal best was. I’d be willing to bet it’s somewhere very close to that time.

KrustyUCC · 16-11-2019 12:39pm

TD Laments 10km Run Time

"Maria Bailey has opened up about her disappointing performance in Dún Laoghaire's 'The Bay 10k' run in 2015, admitting that her time of 53mins 56secs was not up to her own standards.

The Fine Gael TD pulled no punches in an interview with RTÉ Radio 1's Sean O'Rourke, responding to his remark that the aforementioned 10km time was "pretty good" with an abrupt "Not for me."

In truth however, a time of 53:56 (gross result) was no small feat, given she was racing just three weeks after sustaining a fall from a swing in a Dublin hotel and undergoing "intensive physio" in the build-up. Not only that but when we consider her time in previous years, her 2015 performance was quite impressive. The result was only 44 seconds slower than her time of 53:12 (gross result) in 2014 and far above her 2012 performance, when she ran a time of 58 minutes and 20 seconds.

That being said, it was over a minute longer than her best 'The Bay 10k' run of 52:21 in 2013."

https://www.balls.ie/athletics/maria-bailey-laments-poor-10km-time-411273

KevRossi · 16-11-2019 1:21pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Quite the story you've concocted

What’s concocted about that? Loads of. RTE people living in SE Dublin.

It wasnt me123 · 16-11-2019 2:00pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

had she apologised straight away and said it was a poor judgment call she'd still be on the dun laoghaire ticket and we wouldnt be talking about this

And this is why Lorraine Clifford Lee will be okay because straight away she came out apologising - now I don't necessarily agree with that either but she knew that if she wanted a political career she had to immediately and continually apologise. I actually agreed with some of what she said but maybe was ill advised to put in writing.

Suckit · 16-11-2019 2:16pm

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

And this is why Lorraine Clifford Lee will be okay because straight away she came out apologising - now I don't necessarily agree with that either but she knew that if she wanted a political career she had to immediately and continually apologise. I actually agreed with some of what she said but maybe was ill advised to put in writing.

I'm beginning to think that wasn't all as it seemed.
FG buried that story by deselecting Bailey.
Pavee Point seem to have pretty much forgiven her for any wrong doing and said that there should be more politicians like her.

Similar remarks didn't do any harm to Peter Caseys campaign.
LCL is coming out of it looking quite good.

McMurphy · 16-11-2019 2:29pm

Suckit wrote: »

I'm beginning to think that wasn't all as it seemed.
FG buried that story by deselecting Bailey.
Pavee Point seem to have pretty much forgiven her for any wrong doing and said that there should be more politicians like her.

Similar remarks didn't do any harm to Peter Caseys campaign.
LCL is coming out of it looking quite good.

The Indo are speculating that FG are preparing "for a fight" with Maria Bailey.

A senior party source said: “She definitely signalled that this might not be the end – but we believe there’s no case, and will stick by the decision.”

It will make for great fun and interesting reading if there'sv suddenly a huge influx of leaked stories surrounding this in the coming weeks, revealing a certain ministers involvement in the affair, and possibly others who have tried to airbrush bailey from their lives.

She left a hint as to how she might act going forward.

SOR: Were there political dirty tricks involved?

MB: I’m not going to cast aspersions on air, because that’s not the way I play, I will deal with that in my own way ...

rob316 · 16-11-2019 3:26pm

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

This just shows that the quality of TD that we, the electorate are voting for is so very poor. between Farrel, Bailey, Michael Lowry, Willie O'Dea and all the others that have been proven to be dishonest and doing something illegal.

We should demand that the quality of our TDs be above reproach and a much better batch than the ones we have.

“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

That's what voting for FF and FG is.

ddarcy · 16-11-2019 3:31pm

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

The Indo are speculating that FG are preparing "for a fight" with Maria Bailey.

It will make for great fun and interesting reading if there'sv suddenly a huge influx of leaked stories surrounding this in the coming weeks, revealing a certain ministers involvement in the affair, and possibly others who have tried to airbrush bailey from their lives.

She left a hint as to how she might act going forward.

Isn’t there precedence from the last election that will favour Maria Bailey? John Perry in Sligo sued and won when he was dropped from the ticket. Plus she could also leak the report that exonerated her if she is fully thrown under the bus.

I would like to see journalists pressuring Leo about getting a guarantee that she won’t end up in the Seanad. Very simple question, Leo can you guarantee the voting public that Maria Bailey will not end up a FG choice to be senator? I’ve a feeling that to keep her mouth shut that that is where she will be going.

Away With The Fairies · 16-11-2019 5:51pm

RedParrot wrote: »

This whole entire Maria Bailey falling off a swing erected for photography reasons really is a pack of balls. From the radio interview she admitted to having drinks before going out with her friends, then they bought more drinks in the hotel and she was holding a drink maybe even two on the swing. There's just no personal responsibility whatsoever from her. She claimed she was injured yet she attended a music festival a week later and went on a run or a marathon 3 weeks after the fall. Honestly a blind man can see she's pulling the wool over our eyes.

TV and radio presenters can't really call her out on it though or they will be opening themselves up for libel.

Alot of people don't take personal responsibility for their actions.

Auguste Comte · 16-11-2019 6:30pm

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Alot of people don't take personal responsibility for their actions.

And none of them deserve to be paid public representatives.

Stop moaning ffs · 16-11-2019 6:31pm

I’ve a feeling this whole escapade isn’t over.

Insert Perpetual swing motion joke here

high_king · 16-11-2019 6:31pm

rob316 wrote: »

“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

That's what voting for FF and FG is.

Or any Irish political party at present for that matter.

Odyssey 2005 · 16-11-2019 6:35pm

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

I’ve a feeling this whole escapade isn’t over.

Insert Perpetual swing motion joke here

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_cradle

Stop moaning ffs · 16-11-2019 7:00pm

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_cradle

Brilliant. That’s the one thanks

Pintman Paddy Losty · 16-11-2019 7:57pm

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

The Indo are speculating that FG are preparing "for a fight" with Maria Bailey.

It will make for great fun and interesting reading if there'sv suddenly a huge influx of leaked stories surrounding this in the coming weeks, revealing a certain ministers involvement in the affair, and possibly others who have tried to airbrush bailey from their lives.

She left a hint as to how she might act going forward.

You've been banging this paranoid fantasist drum for months now. Surely it's some elaborate wind up??

Nothing is "coming out" Johnny! Haha. Get a grip and stop obsessing over this.

Stop moaning ffs · 16-11-2019 8:17pm

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

You've been banging this paranoid fantasist drum for months now. Surely it's some elaborate wind up??

Nothing is "coming out" Johnny! Haha. Get a grip and stop obsessing over this.

To be fair paddy you’ve been here just as long and trying to downplay and laugh off the whole thing as a nothing.

And look where bailey is now.

Bobtheman · 16-11-2019 8:20pm

Bottom line is we need reform of insurance industry. Voting FG or Maria Bailey or FF won't sort that. But let's focus on one TD and one case, ad nauseum. Pathetic

Stop moaning ffs · 16-11-2019 8:24pm

Bobtheman wrote: »

Bottom line is we need reform of insurance industry. Voting FG or Maria Bailey or FF won't sort that. But let's focus on one TD and one case ad nauseum. Pathetic

It’s a.topic that didn’t go away and FGs trying to bury it and ignore it has backfired in spectacular fashion.

It’s not a focus on one td. This is going to hurt them and badly in this coming election.

Pintman Paddy Losty · 16-11-2019 8:25pm

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

To be fair paddy you’ve been here just as long and trying to downplay and laugh off the whole thing as a nothing.

And look where bailey is now.

The DLRD branch made their decision and the executive accepted it. That's democracy. Happy to see the back of MB to be honest.

FG can draw a line under this. They'll likely get a nice boost in the polls for demonstrating that they can deal with things like this internally.

The largest party in the country continues to sell well with the people.

The message of the shinners and whingers is not resonating with Joe Public.

Bobtheman · 16-11-2019 8:35pm

So the alternative is vote FG again? Why ?

Stop moaning ffs · 16-11-2019 8:36pm

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

The DLRD branch made their decision and the executive accepted it. That's democracy. Happy to see the back of MB to be honest.

FG can draw a line under this. They'll likely get a nice boost in the polls for demonstrating that they can deal with things like this internally.

The largest party in the country continues to sell well with the people.

The message of the shinners and whingers is not resonating with Joe Public.

Well that definitely a take. A funny one.

FG didn’t deal with it at all. They ignored it and then tried to bury it.

That’s not a good look to the party.

And no the public aren’t happy with them at all.

And you’ve just said that anyone who isn’t buying your line is a shinner and a whinger

It being Saturday night I guess you’re an entry level young FG member given control of the spin desk for the night. Am I right?

Make sure today some dinner if you’re gonna be there all night.

Bobtheman · 16-11-2019 8:37pm

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

The DLRD branch made their decision and the executive accepted it. That's democracy. Happy to see the back of MB to be honest.

FG can draw a line under this. They'll likely get a nice boost in the polls for demonstrating that they can deal with things like this internally.

The largest party in the country continues to sell well with the people.

The message of the shinners and whingers is not resonating with Joe Public.

I think you are deluded. FG are marginally ahead of FF. The housing situation remains dire as does health and insurance . Best of luck canvassing with that.
I do agree with you on whinging independents. Effectively useless

tayto lover · 16-11-2019 9:01pm

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

The DLRD branch made their decision and the executive accepted it. That's democracy. Happy to see the back of MB to be honest.

FG can draw a line under this. They'll likely get a nice boost in the polls for demonstrating that they can deal with things like this internally.

The largest party in the country continues to sell well with the people.

The message of the shinners and whingers is not resonating with Joe Public.

Seeing that it took them so long to do what needed to be done will the boost be in the election after the next one or even further down the road?

Higgins5473 · 16-11-2019 9:10pm

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

It’s a.topic that didn’t go away and FGs trying to bury it and ignore it has backfired in spectacular fashion.

It’s not a focus on one td. This is going to hurt them and badly in this coming election.

I'm not sure they tried to bury it. i think Bailey made an absolute mess of the whole thing herself, including the last few days and subsequent dismissal. If it was a witch hunt and the press going after her Madigan should go down with her. In fact I think Madigan should be gone more so, Bailey is thick, she took bad advice.

_Kaiser_ · 16-11-2019 9:19pm

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

The DLRD branch made their decision and the executive accepted it. That's democracy. Happy to see the back of MB to be honest.

FG can draw a line under this. They'll likely get a nice boost in the polls for demonstrating that they can deal with things like this internally.

The largest party in the country continues to sell well with the people.

The message of the shinners and whingers is not resonating with Joe Public.

Honestly now, I really don't know whether you actually believe this stuff or whether you're just that out of touch with the mood of the public on this and many other core issues that have gotten worse under FG's "leadership" in the last 9 years.

I seem to recall you saying that FG were drawing a line under this issue before and yet here we are. Equally ridiculous is the nonsensical idea that anyone who has an issue with FG or its representatives is a "shinner" or a "whinger".

You haven't a notion what Joe Public wants mate. It's certainly not more arrogant hypocrisy and corruption from FG - as I've said many times here, all FG are really good for in the final analysis is reminding us that they're worse than FF (which is why they ALWAYS - just as they have this time - make them electable again)

All you're ACTUALLY achieving with posts like the above, is proving the point.

Stop moaning ffs · 16-11-2019 9:37pm

Sell well with the people you said.

This is going to haunt him to the rest of his political career. Not that it will bother him personally at all. We know it won’t.

But statements like these are exactly why FG have ruined the country in a whole new way that we won’t recover from.

https://twitter.com/thejournal_ie/status/1195766250934284288?s=21

It wasnt me123 · 16-11-2019 9:59pm

Higgins5473 wrote: »

I'm not sure they tried to bury it. i think Bailey made an absolute mess of the whole thing herself, including the last few days and subsequent dismissal. If it was a witch hunt and the press going after her Madigan should go down with her. In fact I think Madigan should be gone more so, Bailey is thick, she took bad advice

She isn’t thick - she is very savvy but arrogant - she didn’t get bad advice - she lied on legal documents and then signed them.

Do not make excuses for greed and arrogance

Millionaire only not · 16-11-2019 10:02pm

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

She isn’t thick - she is very savvy but arrogant - she didn’t get bad advice - she lied on legal documents and then signed them.

Do not make excuses for greed and arrogance

And it’s a disgrace if she gets elected!

She’s gone good riddance, get over it move on , we’ve all made mistakes we have to live with !

high_king · 16-11-2019 10:18pm

Millionaire only not wrote: »

And it’s a disgrace if she gets elected!

Corrupt politicians often top the poll in Ireland, always have, lots of people secretly love them as it reminds them of themselves.

Pintman Paddy Losty · 16-11-2019 10:20pm

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Honestly now, I really don't know whether you actually believe this stuff or whether you're just that out of touch with the mood of the public on this and many other core issues that have gotten worse under FG's "leadership" in the last 9 years.

I seem to recall you saying that FG were drawing a line under this issue before and yet here we are. Equally ridiculous is the nonsensical idea that anyone who has an issue with FG or its representatives is a "shinner" or a "whinger".

You haven't a notion what Joe Public wants mate. It's certainly not more arrogant hypocrisy and corruption from FG - as I've said many times here, all FG are really good for in the final analysis is reminding us that they're worse than FF (which is why they ALWAYS - just as they have this time - make them electable again)

All you're ACTUALLY achieving with posts like the above, is proving the point.

Talking rubbish as usual.

You make out like FG are hated up and down the country. Au contraire. They are the most popular party in the country. More voters like FG than any other party. People value steady and reasoned policies. They also transfer extremely well.

Here's how things are going to play out.

MB story is more or less done now. Old news. Leo and Simon will do a great job with brexit in the new year. They'll continue to rise in the polls. There'll be an election called in late March. Michael Martin will be shown for the slippery populist he is. FG will be the largest party. Reduced number of TDs but will form a coalition with the greens, Labour and independents.

FG aren't going anywhere. No matter how much you bluster.

FrancieBrady · 16-11-2019 10:33pm

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

MB story is more or less done now. Old news. .

Don't ever sign up for the party strategist job anyhow...you were saying the above in May!

Plumbthedepths · 16-11-2019 10:34pm

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Talking rubbish as usual.

You make out like FG are hated up and down the country. Au contraire. They are the most popular party in the country. More voters like FG than any other party. People value steady and reasoned policies. They also transfer extremely well.

Here's how things are going to play out.

MB story is more or less done now. Old news. Leo and Simon will do a great job with brexit in the new year. They'll continue to rise in the polls. There'll be an election called in late March. Michael Martin will be shown for the slippery populist he is. FG will be the largest party. Reduced number of TDs but will form a coalition with the greens, Labour and independents.

FG aren't going anywhere. No matter how much you bluster.

I remember your prediction that the MB story would be a footnote come the Summer, I'd be inclined to ignore your predictions of the future tbh .

WishUWereHere · 16-11-2019 10:36pm

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Well that definitely a take. A funny one.

FG didn’t deal with it at all. They ignored it and then tried to bury it.

That’s not a good look to the party.

And no the public aren’t happy with them at all.

And you’ve just said that anyone who isn’t buying your line is a shinner and a whinger

It being Saturday night I guess you’re an entry level young FG member given control of the spin desk for the night. Am I right?

Make sure today some dinner if you’re gonna be there all night.

OP, ignore this paddy. Either he or his 2 amigos adopted the same ‘you’re a fger or a shinner’ BS on the closed thread.

They were at least part of the reason the other thread was shut down. Let’s NOT give them the same ammunition to get this one closed also.

McMurphy · 16-11-2019 10:44pm

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

You've been banging this paranoid fantasist drum for months now. Surely it's some elaborate wind up??

Nothing is "coming out" Johnny! Haha. Get a grip and stop obsessing over this.

Let's recap shall we.

I predicted pretty much from day one that this would cost bailey her seat, I also said the attempted burial of the report would come back to bite Leo, and Maria in the arse.

My next prediction is that this could also ultimately cost Josepha Madigan her position in cabinet and her seat come election time.

You said repeatedly, and are still trying to proclaim that the story was a non story that will be having a line drawn under it and they'll all move on.

You started this in May might I add.

Any day now Paddy

Any day.....

You're pretty much the worst shill ever.

3/10 from Mr Dogs I'm afraid.

glenfieldman · 16-11-2019 10:56pm

I could not give a **** if he was straight, gay, black, white or any religion
But Varadkar is the worst head of state we ever had

Stop moaning ffs · 16-11-2019 11:05pm

glenfieldman wrote: »

I could not give a **** if he was straight, gay, black, white or any religion
But Varadkar is the worst head of state we ever had

Not entirely true.
He’s doing an incredible and perfect job for the banks vulture funds and investors. He’s doing exactly what they need him to do.

So he’s a perfect puppet.
He is an awful Taoiseach though for sure in terms of looking after and actually leading our country.

Only reason he and Simon have done so well on brexit is they’re under the dictat of all the aforementioned vulture funds and banks and investors.

pablo128 · 17-11-2019 12:43am

Higgins5473 wrote: »

Bailey is thick, she took bad advice.

Bailey is greedy, and had a friend with no moral compass send in paperwork to instigate a compensation claim with no merit.

Not only that hat, when the story broke, she doubled down instead of holding her hands up. Let's not mention the radio interview.

Do you realise these people are tasked with running our country, while we are at work and paying our taxes and contributing. These politicians are supposed to take that tax money and make the best use of it for the people of Ireland. Instead what we have is a situation where some of them are just in it to line their own pockets and don't give 2 fcuks how they do it.

high_king · 17-11-2019 12:51am

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Not entirely true.
He’s doing an incredible and perfect job for the banks vulture funds and investors. He’s doing exactly what they need him to do.

So he’s a perfect puppet.
He is an awful Taoiseach though for sure in terms of looking after and actually leading our country.

Only reason he and Simon have done so well on brexit is they’re under the dictat of all the aforementioned vulture funds and banks and investors.

Leo, ah come on, be reasonable, he likes cycling and keep fit, has nice socks, goes jogging with Justin Trudeau, and has big birthday parties, that's all that matters.

Stop moaning ffs · 17-11-2019 12:57am

high_king wrote: »

Leo, ah come on, be reasonable, he likes cycling and keep fit, has nice socks, goes jogging with Justin Trudeau, and has big birthday parties, that's all that matters.

You missed something.

Really cynically he’s goes out to pantibar and Bernard Shaw and random gigs regularly cos he’s ‘man of the people’.

100% he’s allowed a private life. And should have one.

His are always photo ops though. That appear on his official accounts soon after. That politics I guess.

He may as well put up pics of him kissing a a sick calf in Leitrim.

Nobody is buying it.

high_king · 17-11-2019 1:02am

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Nobody is buying it.

Plenty are, including our "trustworthy" "impartial" media of course

Stop moaning ffs · 17-11-2019 1:07am

high_king wrote: »

Plenty are, including our "trustworthy" "impartial" media of course

Maybe you live overseas. (Haha)

The media aren’t buying it at all.

There’s a newspaper called the Irish independent been gunning for him all year.

I’ll leave you to google that.

high_king · 17-11-2019 1:09am

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

There’s a newspaper called the Irish independent been gunning for him all year.

I’ll leave you to google that.

you call that criticism ? lol

Stop moaning ffs · 17-11-2019 1:34am

high_king wrote: »

you call that criticism ? lol

You criticized the Irish times earlier.

Now you’re going for the independent.

Please wise mage.

Share with us your go to wisdom for analysis and criticism of our current government

I have a feeling it’s the liberal.ie but I’ll spare you the embarrassment and just throw it out there

high_king · 17-11-2019 1:36am

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

You criticized the Irish times earlier.

Now you’re going for the independent.

Where did I criticise the Irish times, you wouldn't be telling yet more porkies would you ? Post it.

Stop moaning ffs · 17-11-2019 1:42am

high_king wrote: »

Where did I criticise the Irish times, you wouldn't be telling yet more porkies would you ? Post it.

You said ‘Irish times? Lol!’

If it wasn’t you I apologise. Yis all look the same with the constant complaining n all

high_king · 17-11-2019 1:45am

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

You said ‘Irish times? Lol!’

If it wasn’t you I apologise. Yis all look the same with the constant complaining n all

You getting caught out making false allegations is your problem not ours.

Stop moaning ffs · 17-11-2019 1:47am

high_king wrote: »

You getting caught out making false allegations is your problem not ours.

Ours?

Who is ‘ours’?

high_king · 17-11-2019 1:59am

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Ours?

Who is ‘ours’?

All the people you are moaning about, short memory haven't you ?

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Ours?
Yis all look the same with the constant complaining n all

Judgement day for Maria Bailey.

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