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Hair transplant diary (ongoing)

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  • #352
    Rikand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,421 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    EltonJohn69 wrote: »
    So from this thread, if your not willing to go to turkey, your best options are Ailsbury or HRBR ?

    Dont limit yourself to just two places. There's a half dozen or more clinics in Ireland. Go to a few of them. I did. Talk to the consultants/sales people and get a feel for the places and see what/who you like. Talk to them about the procedures, talk to them about the after care. Haggle, negotiate, see what you can get thrown in as part of the package. They're running a business at the end of the day

    One of the big things for me in deciding to go with Ailesbury is the prescription of Saw Palmetto as its DHT blocker aftercare. I just wasnt happy going with finasteride and the possible side effects that it can have. From every study I have read of Saw Palmetto is that there's no documentation of the same side effects. Having said that, its not supposed to be AS good as Finasteride. Thats the risk of natural vs chemical I suppose.

    The other, I just liked the way they sold the product. Felt like they gave it to me very straight and didnt force themselves on me in any sort of capacity. 'Do it if you want, don't do it if you don't want'. I like that kind of a sales pitch lol.


    Most important thing I can say is don't rush into it. Even if you have a really strong donor area like I do, you only get one head of hair. It's an important decision. Make the most informed one that you can before you go and do it


  • #353
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,118 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I've had two transplants now- one in Turkey and one with Aylesbury clinic.

    Turkey was a few years ago and Aylesbury was in March of this year.

    Both transplants were the first one third of the head. I've posted about both on here.

    It could be a huge coincidence but ever in three last few months I've noticed 2 things;

    1) i have thinned out noticeably in the middle third
    2) that whenever a light shines on my head its like some sort I'd magic trick in that it makes it look like my hair has disappeared. It makes me extremely self aware of where i stand when out of the house.

    From a distance and in low lighting, the hair looks 100%.

    I am guessing that both problems are caused by the hair becoming thinner and that its an age thing. So i think I've a couple of options;

    1) go back on finistrade (sp?). I was on it before and suffered had zero after effects but came off it because of what i had read
    2) try a natural version of it. Ive just stated biomine (sp?).
    3) get the pigmentation (think it costs about 1000e or so)
    4) see about *another* transplant
    5) cut it all really short/off. This is obviously the last resort for a number of reasons.

    Has anyone any similar experience or advice?

    Thanks

    PS - i do have a follow up appointment in Aylesbury in January so will be talking to them about it. I just wanted some views from outside the clinic


  • #354
    iebamm2580
    Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    Do you mean the transplanted hair or your existing hair has thinned out? Dr Nel was insistent on fin and im back on it again, my existing hair seems thicker and tbh i think its essential to take after a transplant and i will continue to do so until a viable alternative is available hopefully in the next few years from cassiopeia an italian compmany rho are developing a topical anti-androgen.


  • #355
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,118 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    This is a front view. The hairline was created by 2 sets of implants, the second filling in on the first.

    Like I said, from a distance or in low light, the hair looks 100%.


  • #356
    at9qu5vp0wcix7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 738 ✭✭✭at9qu5vp0wcix7


    everlast75 wrote: »
    This is a front view. The hairline was created by 2 sets of implants, the second filling in on the first.

    Like I said, from a distance or in low light, the hair looks 100%.

    I'm sure fibres like Toppik and stains etc would be very helpful for specific occasions, although not practical for day to day.


  • #357
    HL2020
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭HL2020


    EltonJohn69 wrote: »
    So from this thread, if your not willing to go to turkey, your best options are Ailsbury or HRBR ?

    I’ve just booked in for my transplant in Aug 2020 in Vancouver with Hasson and Wong. $4.5 a graft for the first 2000 and $2.7 after that (I need about 5,000 my total cost will be about €15,000) I had a consultation with them in the UK. Flights are €500 (get €400 back) and 3 nights accommodation included.

    From all my research (months and months of trawling through blogs and videos) and consultations with HRBR (2) and Aylesbury I felt H&W are a better option / value. It comes in at less than half the price of HRBR. Way more expensive than Turkey but looking at the pic/videos online and how I felt after the consultation I’m glad I made the decision.

    There are definitely other options out there, don’t rush into a decision or clinic. If you have any questions happy to help. I’m on Finasteride after consultation with HRBR.


  • #358
    20/20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭20/20


    HL2020 That is a lot of money and a lot of travelling. What was wrong with Aylesbury ? you could have at least twice as much done and be back in your own bed at night.

    Anyway I thought I would post some pics of my experience with Aylesbury.
    1+2 : Sunday 24 Feb 2019 the day I had head shaved like they wanted.
    3 : Monday 25 Feb 2019 the day of the procedure all finished, I cant wash head until Tuesday.
    4+5 : 3rd December 2019 how it looks now nine months later and they claim it takes up to 18 months for full results. I know I need a decent hair cut but like everlast75 some might say it still looks thin with very bright light directly overhead.


  • #359
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,404 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Aylesbury love the horse shoe hairline.


  • #360
    20/20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭20/20


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Aylesbury love the horse shoe hairline.

    I have had no hair on a section of the left side for over 45 years because of a bad burn accident when I was younger. Its not noticeable as been bald now with the natural receding on front. But because of this there was no point in transplanting to the left as the area is dead and will never grow. To follow on from that, transplanting to the right and front would make the left side look far more noticeable as been bald.
    Hence the reason for the hairline been the way it is.


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  • #361
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,404 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    20/20 wrote: »
    I have had no hair on a section of the left side for over 45 years because of a bad burn accident when I was younger. Its not noticeable as been bald now with the natural receding on front. But because of this there was no point in transplanting to the left as the area is dead and will never grow. To follow on from that, transplanting to the right and front would make the left side look far more noticeable as been bald.
    Hence the reason for the hairline been the way it is.




    They do it to everyone regardless though, it's their thing. The turks go with a more youthful hairline, even for guys over 30


  • #362
    20/20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭20/20


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    They do it to everyone regardless though, it's their thing. The turks go with a more youthful hairline, even for guys over 30

    What I was trying to say was the temple would look very odd transplanted on the right and large bald patch on the left. I know the Aylesbury style doesn't agree with everyone. But before the transplant is done Aylesbury draw the lines on your head where the transplanted area will be. This is the time to request a different line or style. I personally couldn't because of the burn I had.


  • #363
    at9qu5vp0wcix7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 738 ✭✭✭at9qu5vp0wcix7


    Do Aylesbury insist on using drugs to help retain after surgery? I think I'll book a consultation in with them just because I would be willing to pay a little extra to avoid the trip to Turkey, but I don't want to be stuck with any adverse side effects of the drugs commonly used to help retain hair.


  • #364
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,118 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Desmond Full Conduit wrote: »
    Do Aylesbury insist on using drugs to help retain after surgery? I think I'll book a consultation in with them just because I would be willing to pay a little extra to avoid the trip to Turkey, but I don't want to be stuck with any adverse side effects of the drugs commonly used to help retain hair.

    Insist - no.

    Recommend - yes.

    Incidentally they don't advocate using finistrade


  • #365
    HL2020
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭HL2020


    20/20 wrote: »
    HL2020 That is a lot of money and a lot of travelling. What was wrong with Aylesbury ? you could have at least twice as much done and be back in your own bed at night.

    Anyway I thought I would post some pics of my experience with Aylesbury.
    1+2 : Sunday 24 Feb 2019 the day I had head shaved like they wanted.
    3 : Monday 25 Feb 2019 the day of the procedure all finished, I cant wash head until Tuesday.
    4+5 : 3rd December 2019 how it looks now nine months later and they claim it takes up to 18 months for full results. I know I need a decent hair cut but like everlast75 some might say it still looks thin with very bright light directly overhead.

    Yeah it’s a lot of money, I’ve been thinking about it for years now. Both HRBR & HW recommended FUT for my hair loss, Aylesbury were planning to do front and leave large patch at back with FUE or DHI I can’t remember it was a while back now. With the travel I don’t mind as I’m making a holiday out of my time there. Just from looking online (reddit, YouTube, hairloss blogs) I felt they were the best option for me and after meeting with them I took the plunge!


  • #366
    Rikand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,421 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    HL2020 wrote: »
    Yeah it’s a lot of money, I’ve been thinking about it for years now. Both HRBR & HW recommended FUT for my hair loss, Aylesbury were planning to do front and leave large patch at back with FUE or DHI I can’t remember it was a while back now. With the travel I don’t mind as I’m making a holiday out of my time there. Just from looking online (reddit, YouTube, hairloss blogs) I felt they were the best option for me and after meeting with them I took the plunge!

    Good for you. hope it goes well :)


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  • #367
    20/20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭20/20


    Desmond Full Conduit wrote: »
    Do Aylesbury insist on using drugs to help retain after surgery? I think I'll book a consultation in with them just because I would be willing to pay a little extra to avoid the trip to Turkey, but I don't want to be stuck with any adverse side effects of the drugs commonly used to help retain hair.

    They recommend you use their herbal capsules for about one year. They have absolutely no side effects, and cost €50 for six or seven week supply.
    You also have to apply regaine foam once a day for about one year also.
    The Regaine can be bought cheap enough on Amazon compared to Irish pharmacy.


  • #368
    Coady2020
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭Coady2020


    Well lads
    Anyone get a hair transplant with Dr Monica Antepowics from Ailesbury hair clinic in Dublin? Or does anyone know if that’s a good company to go with ? Also anyone know if Dr Nel would be a good choice ?


  • #369
    paddyuibh
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭paddyuibh


    Has anybody got Hair Transplant with Tir Na Oģ in Donaghmede? If so would you recommend? And cost wise?

    Im looking into both Ailsbury Clinic and Tir Na Oģ.


  • #370
    Rikand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,421 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Coady2020 wrote: »
    Well lads
    Anyone get a hair transplant with Dr Monica Antepowics from Ailesbury hair clinic in Dublin? Or does anyone know if that’s a good company to go with ? Also anyone know if Dr Nel would be a good choice ?

    Monica has been doing hair transplants for about 4 years having previously been a gynaecologist according to a google search I did. I've seen some good results and one or two results that I wouldn't be happy with but that's not to say those people aren't happy. She was the named doctor over my transplant but another Polish surgeon named Marcin Niedwicz? (That spelling could be way off) did the bulk of mine. He extracted, made the holes and did the hairline and implanted the left side of my head. Hes been doing transplants for about 10 years and was a travelling surgeon who comes to the clinic now and again. I found him to be excellent. We had the same taste in music too which was great!

    I would have a little bit of apprehension about Monica but it's probably unfounded as if she was having a lot of bad results we would have heard more about it by now so 99% of the time is probably fine. She did about 25% of my transplant(the right side) and so far so good it all seems to be coming through fine.

    I'll post some pics in the summer if I'm happy with the result lol.

    Dr Cara is the other surgeon in there and shes doing it about 20 years. I have only heard good stuff about her and she finished off the last grafts of my transplant.

    I had 3500 hairs which equates to roughly 1600 grafts. Ailesbury charge between 3-4 euros per graft which would be normal. Dont be completely put off by the charge per hairs. They take grafts out of the head and a lot of mine were 3-4 hair grafts


  • #371
    Tommy Pickle
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Tommy Pickle


    Coady2020 wrote: »
    Well lads
    Anyone get a hair transplant with Dr Monica Antepowics from Ailesbury hair clinic in Dublin? Or does anyone know if that’s a good company to go with ? Also anyone know if Dr Nel would be a good choice ?

    I was in with Dr Nel 2 weeks ago getting mine done, very easy process. Not cheap but still half the price of the likes of HRBR.


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  • #372
    Monokne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Hey

    Anyone who's been to Dr Emrah Cinik for this in Istanbul have any feedback?


  • #373
    JustAThought
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    Simon2015 wrote: »
    The drug can cause serious cognitive problems.






    that first video is one of the most frightening casual warning I have ever seen - starts off dull but OMG - everyone considering hairloss treatment should be made aut down and watch it - and their partners :0


  • #374
    Monokne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Tommy Pickle wrote: »
    I was in with Dr Nel 2 weeks ago getting mine done, very easy process. Not cheap but still half the price of the likes of HRBR.

    What does it cost with him?


  • #375
    Monokne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Franco Baresi52 wrote: »
    4 euro per graft

    Not cheap! But I suppose that's reasonable if you're getting it done here


  • #376
    Tommy Pickle
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Tommy Pickle


    Monokne wrote: »
    What does it cost with him?

    It worked out at €4 per graft but it would have been a bit cheaper if I allowed him to shave me bald, I kept the hair on the top of my head.


  • #377
    Monokne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Tommy Pickle wrote: »
    It worked out at €4 per graft but it would have been a bit cheaper if I allowed him to shave me bald, I kept the hair on the top of my head.

    I'm not sure I follow...how would shaving you bald make a difference? :confused:


  • #378
    Tommy Pickle
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Tommy Pickle


    Monokne wrote: »
    I'm not sure I follow...how would shaving you bald make a difference? :confused:

    Its easier and faster to do if you are shaved bald. The norm is shaving bald, a lot of places don't offer to do it unshaved because its more time consuming.


  • #379
    Monokne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Ah ok, is there much of a difference in price if you get it shaved?


  • #380
    Rikand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,421 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Tommy Pickle wrote: »
    It worked out at €4 per graft but it would have been a bit cheaper if I allowed him to shave me bald, I kept the hair on the top of my head.

    It was explained to me that the reason for shaving so tight is because sometimes the transplanted hairs can stick to the longer unshaven hairs and therefore don't always take root properly. Not sure how true that would be.

    I used to have quite long hair, even with the receding hair, so I had shaved to a 1 all over back and sides with like 5 on top so when they asked me on the day if I would shave all over for a better result I was like :: " Well, I'm already in for a penny as it is, might as well go in for the full pound. "

    So far, I'm glad I did.


  • #381
    Monokne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Yeah I'd rather not have it all cut off but for the ease of the transplant I will go for it


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  • #382
    Tommy Pickle
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Tommy Pickle


    Rikand wrote: »
    It was explained to me that the reason for shaving so tight is because sometimes the transplanted hairs can stick to the longer unshaven hairs and therefore don't always take root properly. Not sure how true that would be.

    I used to have quite long hair, even with the receding hair, so I had shaved to a 1 all over back and sides with like 5 on top so when they asked me on the day if I would shave all over for a better result I was like :: " Well, I'm already in for a penny as it is, might as well go in for the full pound. "

    So far, I'm glad I did.

    Doesn't really sound convincing to me to be honest. Andre Nel has performed many with unshaved hair and said that his results are the exact same.

    Depends what way you are, I didn't want anyone to know I got the transplant so going unshaved provided me with that luxury


  • #383
    20/20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭20/20


    I posted some pics of the amount that had to be shaved off with Ailesbury for my transplant. Post #359.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057464801&page=24


  • #384
    Monokne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Tommy Pickle wrote: »
    Doesn't really sound convincing to me to be honest. Andre Nel has performed many with unshaved hair and said that his results are the exact same.

    Depends what way you are, I didn't want anyone to know I got the transplant so going unshaved provided me with that luxury

    This has piqued my curiousity - was it an exceptionally small area or how did you manage to keep it under wraps?

    I know a couple lads who have it done and between the initial transplant and the shedding later on I'd imagine you'd do well to keep it concealed. Not to mention the new hair down the line that wasnt there before!


  • #385
    Tommy Pickle
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Tommy Pickle


    Monokne wrote: »
    This has piqued my curiousity - was it an exceptionally small area or how did you manage to keep it under wraps?

    I know a couple lads who have it done and between the initial transplant and the shedding later on I'd imagine you'd do well to keep it concealed. Not to mention the new hair down the line that wasnt there before!

    It wasn’t particularly small no, 2500 grafts. Most on the front of the hair line and some for thickening light parts on the temples. So after the 2 weeks off work I was able to cover the grafts with my existing hair that hasn’t been shaved off.

    Like I’ve been out with friends 2 weeks after and none of them even batted an eye at me, and anyone I’ve seen since no one has mentioned anything so I’m pretty sure it’s gone undetected


  • #386
    Monokne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Fair play


  • #387
    iebamm2580
    Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    same as that had mine 7 months ago with dr nel, nobody noticed as i had kept my existing hair.


  • #388
    suave.4u
    Registered Users Posts: 989 ✭✭✭suave.4u


    iebamm2580 wrote: »
    same as that had mine 7 months ago with dr nel, nobody noticed as i had kept my existing hair.

    Buddy, is it starting to grow? Are you noticing any difference


  • #389
    iebamm2580
    Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    Yeah man looks like most of the grafts are growing or grown back but the hair is thin hair, its the next few months according to dr nel that i will see the major density change. A friend i hadn't seen in a while said i must have had a transplant but i just brushed it off told him i had new barber, none of my close friends have said anything as they see me every few days so wouldnt be a as noticeable. Im hoping/expecting big cosmetic change in next few months when the new hair caliber increases.


  • #390
    suave.4u
    Registered Users Posts: 989 ✭✭✭suave.4u


    iebamm2580 wrote: »
    Yeah man looks like most of the grafts are growing or grown back but the hair is thin hair, its the next few months according to dr nel that i will see the major density change. A friend i hadn't seen in a while said i must have had a transplant but i just brushed it off told him i had new barber, none of my close friends have said anything as they see me every few days so wouldnt be a as noticeable. Im hoping/expecting big cosmetic change in next few months when the new hair caliber increases.

    All the best :)


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  • #391
    Hunchback
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭Hunchback


    I wish I could get enough time off work to get this done


  • #392
    Monokne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Hunchback wrote: »
    I wish I could get enough time off work to get this done

    You can get it done in 2 days and within about 10 days the scabs fall off.


  • #393
    Rikand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,421 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Hunchback wrote: »
    I wish I could get enough time off work to get this done

    If work will let you wear a hat, then nobody will notice. Just keep wearing the hat for 2 months pre op and then you'll just be the guy who wears a hat


  • #394
    Monokne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    I think people can tell fairly easily when someone's had it done so I think just best get out front and acknowledge it. I've mine booked and the whole office knows. It's 2020, nothing to be embarrassed about. :)


  • #395
    iebamm2580
    Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    All depends on the hair loss you have pre op whether or not somebody will be able to tell.


  • #396
    Monokne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Really? I just think it would be adundantly clear either way.


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  • #397
    iebamm2580
    Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    Nope had it done 7 months ago and after 2 weeks nobody batted an eyelid when i met them. I had let my top hair grow prior to the op and and i always comb my hair forward so i was able to comb over the new hair line and temples. It only works if you have receding hairline pattern that you have been covering up anyway.


  • #398
    Rikand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,421 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Monokne wrote: »
    I think people can tell fairly easily when someone's had it done so I think just best get out front and acknowledge it. I've mine booked and the whole office knows. It's 2020, nothing to be embarrassed about. :)

    I told everyone too.

    One of the lads gave me a brochure for a barbers in town the other day at break :: " you'll be needing this now that you've rejoined that club."

    I guess the hair must be coming along pretty well lol


  • #399
    iebamm2580
    Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    Im just pointing out you dont need to tell anybody you had it done if you have enough hair left on top, some guys dont want people knowing and thats their business.


  • #400
    Monokne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    iebamm2580 wrote: »
    Im just pointing out you dont need to tell anybody you had it done if you have enough hair left on top, some guys dont want people knowing and thats their business.

    I'm not suggesting you need to.

    I do struggle to believe no-one would notice though, but I can imagine that if you kept it private people would be disinclined to bring it up so at least you don't have to discuss it which I suppose is the end goal so I can understand.


  • #401
    iebamm2580
    Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    Monokne wrote: »
    I'm not suggesting you need to.

    I do struggle to believe no-one would notice though, but I can imagine that if you kept it private people would be disinclined to bring it up so at least you don't have to discuss it which I suppose is the end goal so I can understand.

    haha if my friends ever found out i would never hear the end of it, a few people have commented that my hair looks thicker and i have just said new gel and new barber, its not going to be blatantly obvious if you already combed your hair forward to cover your receding hairline.


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