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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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    #5102
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    So apparently the government caved to pressure and will reopen special needs schooling next week. This is an absolute disaster for families of staff and students with vulnerable people. I really hope my 73 year old mother isn't pressured into allowing my brother back in school for fear of losing his place. Absolutely ridiculous that this government continually ignores NPHET advice for fear of bad publicity.
    I am absolutely sure that no one will be forced to attend a school or daycare if they are not happy with the arrangements in place


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    #5103
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Positivity rates is at 2% in nursing homes.


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    #5104
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    Anybody else baffled and shocked by this??

    Not shocked, was reported in recent days that they had been asking close contact health workers to return to work before the end of isolation period. That has been happening in some areas since mid December. They had a policy where management were applying a "derogation" where the first swab was negative.

    There's good reasons why the HSE gets sued a lot.


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    #5105
    OscarMIlde
    Registered Users Posts: 748 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I am absolutely sure that no one will be forced to attend a school or daycare if they are not happy with the arrangements in place

    You have to be careful refusing places as it can effect future entitlements. There is also the issue that it can place funding pressures on service providers, most of whom are fulfilling tendered contracts for the government, as they can be in breach of the tender provisions.

    It's a ridiculous decision regardless. It's far better to wait a few months till levels are lower. I think it's frankly unfair on staff to have to take such a risk, especially with students who likely cannot comply with social distancing and mask wearing.


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    #5106
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Miike wrote: »
    Can you link the source article please? :)

    Hidden nicely in here

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0114/1189739-vaccine-numbers/


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    #5107
    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    3,854 out of 28,178 test, 13.68%

    Almost exactly the same raw number as yesterday, pure coinkeedink.

    7-day down to 15.97%

    14-day number has dropped for the first time in forever.


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    #5108
    charlie14
    Registered Users Posts: 14,981 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Nope, we've known for a long time that a lot of the covid hospitalised numbers are people that picked it up while already in the hospital for something else.


    And yet we have people complaining about some hospital services being curtailed due to high numbers during a highly contagious epidemic.


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    #5109
    Miike
    Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    Hidden nicely in here

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0114/1189739-vaccine-numbers/

    I knew the number was high but I didn't think it would be 50%. Fúck me alive!


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    #5110
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    seamus wrote: »
    3,854 out of 28,178 test, 13.68%

    Progress seems to have stalled a bit. Hope to see a fall in the positivity rate over the next couple of days.


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    #5111
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    seamus wrote: »
    3,854 out of 28,178 test, 13.68%

    Far more tests, slightly less positives.


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    #5112
    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Progress seems to have stalled a bit. Hope to see a fall in the positivity rate over the next couple of days.

    It's actually bang on what I would have expected.

    The trend tends to be that Tuesday is a drop, Wednesday bumps up, Thursday matches Tuesday, then it drops again each day until the following Tuesday.


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    #5113
    Sconsey
    Registered Users Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    seamus wrote: »
    3,854 out of 28,178 test, 13.68%

    Almost exactly the same raw number as yesterday, pure coinkeedink.

    7-day down to 16.46%

    14-day number has dropped for the first time in forever.

    0.001% change in positive swab numbers from yesterday!


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    #5114
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Miike wrote: »
    I knew the number was high but I didn't think it would be 50%. Fúck me alive!

    I know I'm exaggerating, but if they had done antibody testing on staff they might not have had to vaccinate many of them as there's every chance that the ratio of patient acquired Covid is equal to the rate of staff acquired, within the hospital setting.


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    #5115
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    You have to be careful refusing places as it can effect future entitlements. There is also the issue that it can place funding pressures on service providers, most of whom are fulfilling tendered contracts for the government, as they can be in breach of the tender provisions.

    It's a ridiculous decision regardless. It's far better to wait a few months till levels are lower. I think it's frankly unfair on staff to have to take such a risk, especially with students who likely cannot comply with social distancing and mask wearing.

    I am sure your mum could say your brother was unwell and unable to attend in that case


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    #5116
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Far more tests, slightly less positives.

    Im pretty sure today's swab numbers include a big set of mass testing from nursing homes (2% positivity).


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    #5117
    vienne86
    Registered Users Posts: 17,075 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Sconsey wrote: »
    0.001% change in positive swab numbers from yesterday!

    And nearly 4k more tests.


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    #5118
    fits
    Registered Users Posts: 13,324 ✭✭✭✭fits


    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    He is. He attends a service and gets educational supports there.

    Then this is nothing to do with him. My boys services are under dept of health not education and i suspect your brother is the same.

    My boy was in last June and some of July and it was absolutely 100% optional.


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    #5119
    Turtwig
    Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Even if the HSE were perfect it'd be very difficult to contain covid within an hospital outbreak. We all know the HSE is far from perfect so outbreaks in the hospital are inevitable and become more and more likely the more pressure on the system. Don't forget too the duration of this pandemic and the accumulated effects of decision fatigue on staff.


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    #5120
    SusanC10
    Registered Users Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I am sure your mum could say your brother was unwell and unable to attend in that case

    My sister (adult) has Special Needs and in normal times attends a service. She has not been there since March 2020 and won't be going back until she is vaccinated. The service have assured my elderly Mum that her place will be there for her when she is ready. They ring every couple of months to touch base with my Mum.


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    #5121
    fits
    Registered Users Posts: 13,324 ✭✭✭✭fits


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    My sister (adult) has Special Needs and in normal times attends a service. She has not been there since March 2020 and won't be going back until she is vaccinated. The service have assured my elderly Mum that her place will be there for her when she is ready. They ring every couple of months to touch base with my Mum.


    I’d just like to point out again. Adult day services are under a completely different dept. Nothing to do with dept of education

    ( afaik at least)


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    #5122
    Akabusi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    seamus wrote: »
    It's actually bang on what I would have expected.

    The trend tends to be that Tuesday is a drop, Wednesday bumps up, Thursday matches Tuesday, then it drops again each day until the following Tuesday.

    I hope that trend continues but with close contacts not being tested yet we may be in for a bumpy time.


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    #5123
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,275 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    seamus wrote: »
    3,854 out of 28,178 test, 13.68%

    Almost exactly the same raw number as yesterday, pure coinkeedink.

    Yesterday was 3,932?


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    #5124
    DraftDodger
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭DraftDodger


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Progress seems to have stalled a bit. Hope to see a fall in the positivity rate over the next couple of days.

    Yeah very disappointing tbh


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    #5125
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Akabusi wrote: »
    I hope that trend continues but with close contacts not being tested yet we may be in for a bumpy time.
    Reid said they want to get back to it soon but only when the positivity rates fall.


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    #5126
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Far more tests, slightly less positives.

    Anecdotally hearing of many contacts with no symptoms getting tested. Capacity must be freeing up and GP's putting them through anyway


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    #5127
    Akabusi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Reid said they want to get back to it soon but only when the positivity rates fall.

    I wonder what they want it below - 10%? I think the sooner we can get testing close contacts the sooner we can get the cases down.


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    #5128
    Benimar
    Registered Users Posts: 7,779 ✭✭✭Benimar


    seamus wrote: »
    3,854 out of 28,178 test, 13.68%

    Almost exactly the same raw number as yesterday, pure coinkeedink.

    7-day down to 16.46%

    14-day number has dropped for the first time in forever.

    They amended the overall total upwards by about 300 over the last week. Any idea why that was?

    I keep track of daily swabs and the numbers have definitely changed!


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    #5129
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Akabusi wrote: »
    I wonder what they want it below - 10%? I think the sooner we can get testing close contacts the sooner we can get the cases down.
    Who knows?! That was all he said.


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    #5130
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    no one should be disheartened, positive rate seems to be falling nicely, hopefully be below 10% by early next week, huge amount of tests in last 24 hours


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    #5131
    Akabusi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Anecdotally hearing of many contacts with no symptoms getting tested. Capacity must be freeing up and GP's putting them through anyway

    Off course, it won't be a percentage figure they are aiming for as such - it will be when they have the capacity.


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