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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #5072
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    300 in City West, highest number to date.

    HSE staff absent - positive or close contact, 6,357.


  • #5073
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Would be curious if HSE can give rough figures for how many healthcare workers who have been identified as close contacts are working atm. Know it's probably a fairly fluid number but would be good to know.


  • #5074
    OscarMIlde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    So apparently the government caved to pressure and will reopen special needs schooling next week. This is an absolute disaster for families of staff and students with vulnerable people. I really hope my 73 year old mother isn't pressured into allowing my brother back in school for fear of losing his place. Absolutely ridiculous that this government continually ignores NPHET advice for fear of bad publicity.


  • #5075
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Miike wrote: »
    I don't believe this will be the case. I have colleagues (HCW) working in the community who are at SIGNIFICANT risk of contracting COVID19, who've been told it will be 4 to 6 weeks before they'll receive the first dose. This cohort would include nurses, doctors, carers and allied health professionals.


    Edit: Just wanted to tack on that these people work with COVID19 positive patients.
    Sorry you're right, I did say "all HCW" when I meant front-line staff.


  • #5076
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Miike wrote: »
    I don't believe this will be the case. I have colleagues (HCW) working in the community who are at SIGNIFICANT risk of contracting COVID19, who've been told it will be 4 to 6 weeks before they'll receive the first dose. This cohort would include nurses, doctors, carers and allied health professionals.


    Edit: Just wanted to tack on that these people work with COVID19 positive patients.

    Seems to be that hospitals are using all of what's allocated to them so some non frontline staff may get it in advance of frontline workers in different areas.

    Be good to know how many and which hospitals it has been distributed in and how many staff got it within those so far.


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  • #5077
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    seamus wrote: »
    Sorry you're right, I did say "all HCW" when I meant front-line staff.

    These are frontline staff. That's the worrying thing. Frontline extends beyond those working in ICU or the ED!

    I understand there is limited supply but I genuinely think the likes of GPs, their surgery staff and those I've mentioned will fall between the cracks. It was brought up today in leaders questions and there was a fierce amount of hand wringing about it.


  • #5078
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Miike wrote: »
    These are frontline staff. That's the worrying thing. Frontline extends beyond those working in ICU or the ED!

    I understand there is limited supply but I genuinely think the likes of GPs, their surgery staff and those I've mentioned will fall between the cracks. It was brought up today in leaders questions and there was a fierce amount of hand wringing about it.
    You'd expect them to be included after the care homes are done.


  • #5079
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/mediaroom/pressreleaselisting/new-sars-cov2-variant
    Another day another variant..this time an American variant. Why is there a new variant in some country every odd week now? Why are they all so concentrated around this period, have countries only began genome sequencing recently since that one was discovered int he UK?




    Also a numbers game.

    If there is a certain probability of a mutation that persists/gives an advantage with each link in a chain, then the more infections that you are starting with, the more variations you will see.


    And most of the ones they are detecting now, they are only finding them now but think they have been there for a while. Probably a bit of catch-up in that regard too.


  • #5080
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    seamus wrote: »
    This is great. It means all HCW and nursing homes will have received their first dose by the end of this week. The impact this will have on any future trajectory of the infection cannot be overstated.




    I believe that that will have an impact on the death rates. Not a huge impact on the trajectory of infection. The latter will only start to be affected when substantially more are vaccinated.


  • #5081
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,057 ✭✭✭✭fits


    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    So apparently the government caved to pressure and will reopen special needs schooling next week. This is an absolute disaster for families of staff and students with vulnerable people. I really hope my 73 year old mother isn't pressured into allowing my brother back in school for fear of losing his place. Absolutely ridiculous that this government continually ignores NPHET advice for fear of bad publicity.

    I thought your brother was in his forties?


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  • #5082
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Anybody else baffled and shocked by this??
    Henry said "secondary outbreaks" are also taking place in hospitals and said the proportion of people who are acquiring Covid-19 in hospital is half of the total number of patients.


  • #5083
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    Anybody else baffled and shocked by this??

    Nope, we've known for a long time that a lot of the covid hospitalised numbers are people that picked it up while already in the hospital for something else.


  • #5084
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Reid, in answer to George Lee, says they expect to see no positive effects on the health system of any reduction in new cases for at least 10 days, maybe weeks.


  • #5085
    OscarMIlde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    fits wrote: »
    I thought your brother was in his forties?

    He is. He attends a service and gets educational supports there.


  • #5086
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    Anybody else baffled and shocked by this??

    Can you link the source article please? :)


  • #5087
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    So apparently the government caved to pressure and will reopen special needs schooling next week. This is an absolute disaster for families of staff and students with vulnerable people. I really hope my 73 year old mother isn't pressured into allowing my brother back in school for fear of losing his place. Absolutely ridiculous that this government continually ignores NPHET advice for fear of bad publicity.
    I am absolutely sure that no one will be forced to attend a school or daycare if they are not happy with the arrangements in place


  • #5088
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Positivity rates is at 2% in nursing homes.


  • #5089
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    Anybody else baffled and shocked by this??

    Not shocked, was reported in recent days that they had been asking close contact health workers to return to work before the end of isolation period. That has been happening in some areas since mid December. They had a policy where management were applying a "derogation" where the first swab was negative.

    There's good reasons why the HSE gets sued a lot.


  • #5090
    OscarMIlde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I am absolutely sure that no one will be forced to attend a school or daycare if they are not happy with the arrangements in place

    You have to be careful refusing places as it can effect future entitlements. There is also the issue that it can place funding pressures on service providers, most of whom are fulfilling tendered contracts for the government, as they can be in breach of the tender provisions.

    It's a ridiculous decision regardless. It's far better to wait a few months till levels are lower. I think it's frankly unfair on staff to have to take such a risk, especially with students who likely cannot comply with social distancing and mask wearing.


  • #5091
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Miike wrote: »
    Can you link the source article please? :)

    Hidden nicely in here

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0114/1189739-vaccine-numbers/


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  • #5092
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    3,854 out of 28,178 test, 13.68%

    Almost exactly the same raw number as yesterday, pure coinkeedink.

    7-day down to 15.97%

    14-day number has dropped for the first time in forever.


  • #5093
    charlie14
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    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Nope, we've known for a long time that a lot of the covid hospitalised numbers are people that picked it up while already in the hospital for something else.


    And yet we have people complaining about some hospital services being curtailed due to high numbers during a highly contagious epidemic.


  • #5094
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    Hidden nicely in here

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0114/1189739-vaccine-numbers/

    I knew the number was high but I didn't think it would be 50%. Fúck me alive!


  • #5095
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    seamus wrote: »
    3,854 out of 28,178 test, 13.68%

    Progress seems to have stalled a bit. Hope to see a fall in the positivity rate over the next couple of days.


  • #5096
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    seamus wrote: »
    3,854 out of 28,178 test, 13.68%

    Far more tests, slightly less positives.


  • #5097
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Progress seems to have stalled a bit. Hope to see a fall in the positivity rate over the next couple of days.

    It's actually bang on what I would have expected.

    The trend tends to be that Tuesday is a drop, Wednesday bumps up, Thursday matches Tuesday, then it drops again each day until the following Tuesday.


  • #5098
    Sconsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    seamus wrote: »
    3,854 out of 28,178 test, 13.68%

    Almost exactly the same raw number as yesterday, pure coinkeedink.

    7-day down to 16.46%

    14-day number has dropped for the first time in forever.

    0.001% change in positive swab numbers from yesterday!


  • #5099
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Miike wrote: »
    I knew the number was high but I didn't think it would be 50%. Fúck me alive!

    I know I'm exaggerating, but if they had done antibody testing on staff they might not have had to vaccinate many of them as there's every chance that the ratio of patient acquired Covid is equal to the rate of staff acquired, within the hospital setting.


  • #5100
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    You have to be careful refusing places as it can effect future entitlements. There is also the issue that it can place funding pressures on service providers, most of whom are fulfilling tendered contracts for the government, as they can be in breach of the tender provisions.

    It's a ridiculous decision regardless. It's far better to wait a few months till levels are lower. I think it's frankly unfair on staff to have to take such a risk, especially with students who likely cannot comply with social distancing and mask wearing.

    I am sure your mum could say your brother was unwell and unable to attend in that case


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  • #5101
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Far more tests, slightly less positives.

    Im pretty sure today's swab numbers include a big set of mass testing from nursing homes (2% positivity).


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