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Wishbone Ash · 22-07-2020 9:02am

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Coincidentally I just spotted this on Twitter...
https://twitter.com/ArranBolger/status/1285705051260977156?s=19

He may have the setting on 'fastest' rather than 'shortest'.

Wishbone Ash · 22-07-2020 9:06am

magicbastarder wrote: »

... they're doing some interesting biodiversity projects in st ita's.

That another way of describing the HSE's cuts to gardening budgets. :pac:

(About 20 years ago they wouldn't buy diesel for the tractors/mowers. We had lots of bio-diversity then.)

magicbastarder · 22-07-2020 9:30am

Deleted User wrote: »

EDIT: MB did you notice if the farm was open to the public or not at Newbridge House?

both the farm and house are open. i was surprised re the latter, but the guided tour there is excellent (did it about 5 or 10 years ago)

Weepsie · 22-07-2020 9:38am

I too got sunburned yesterday and I wore suncrean. Just on my thigh where the bibs end though.

Also Newbridge house zoo, I believe it is open yes. Nephew got to visit and see animals last week

22-07-2020 10:23am

Great, something to do with the kids one of the days. Only a half hour away.

magicbastarder · 22-07-2020 4:57pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

went out for a spin, legs tired, spotted this beside a skip. happy with that, it's a dawes echelon, probably late 70s, 531 frame. missing seatpost & saddle, handlebars, and left crank (i am guessing at the bottom of the skip but wasn't dedicated enough to go looking cos they'd probably have been crushed or damaged beyond repair anyway)

arse, i have just realised that the frame is damaged. looks like someone put in a seatpost that was too narrow and cinched the clamp so tightly that the seat tube has been compressed and creased slightly. not sure how much faff that would be to try to undo, if at all worth trying.

cletus · 22-07-2020 5:39pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

arse, i have just realised that the frame is damaged. looks like someone put in a seatpost that was too narrow and cinched the clamp so tightly that the seat tube has been compressed and creased slightly. not sure how much faff that would be to try to undo, if at all worth trying.

Pictures?

magicbastarder · 22-07-2020 7:32pm

this is probably the clearest shot i got from behind - you can see where the metal has bulged and torn (down and to the left) for a few mm at the bottom of the slot cut for the seatpost adjustment.

the right hand side part of the clamp has been pulled inboard.
i suspect someone had difficulty getting the seatpost in or out at some point too - i've ringed two sections of minor damage (not too concerning really) here - top bit could be som scuffs from a wayward angle grinder, and there's a bit of a bend in the flaring at the very top of the seatstay, maybe someone levered against it:

finally, looking down the tube, you can see a slightly polished area (again, ringed) - this is a hump or a heel and seems to be the transition between where the seat tube goes from its proper diameter to the reduced diameter. anything including and above that would need to be restored to the original diameter.

magicbastarder · 22-07-2020 9:31pm

dept of education have ceased accepting BTW applications 'to support efforts to control the spread of covid-19'
there was me assuming that accelerating applications for the BTW scheme would 'support efforts to control the spread of covid-19'.

https://twitter.com/EoinBreathnach/status/1285870345585668096

Enduro · 22-07-2020 10:02pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

dept of education have ceased accepting BTW applications 'to support efforts to control the spread of covid-19'
there was me assuming that accelerating applications for the BTW scheme would 'support efforts to control the spread of covid-19'.

https://twitter.com/EoinBreathnach/status/1285870345585668096

That's nuts!!

cletus · 22-07-2020 10:20pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

this is probably the clearest shot i got from behind - you can see where the metal has bulged and torn (down and to the left) for a few mm at the bottom of the slot cut for the seatpost adjustment.

the right hand side part of the clamp has been pulled inboard.
i suspect someone had difficulty getting the seatpost in or out at some point too - i've ringed two sections of minor damage (not too concerning really) here - top bit could be som scuffs from a wayward angle grinder, and there's a bit of a bend in the flaring at the very top of the seatstay, maybe someone levered against it:

finally, looking down the tube, you can see a slightly polished area (again, ringed) - this is a hump or a heel and seems to be the transition between where the seat tube goes from its proper diameter to the reduced diameter. anything including and above that would need to be restored to the original diameter.

Have you tried a seat post in it? The tear in the steel in the first picture could conceivably be remedied if you have a welder (mig, I'd imagine, not stick)

Overall, what sort of condition is the frame in otherwise?

magicbastarder · 22-07-2020 10:50pm

apart from the above, it's in decent nick enough nick from what i can see. the rust pictured above is as bad as it gets. the BB in it morve freely enough and the headset seems OK, moves freely and i guess is just a bit dry and needs to be tightened a smidgen.
i will get the calipers to it tomorrow to get a better idea of the working diameter of the tube.

i didn't mention - but it's visible in the last photo - there's metal swarf captured in the slot down the tube. i don't know whether someone sawed the slot wider, or possibly it's left over from someone cutting an aluminium seatpost out of the frame. i suspect it'd have corroded more if it was steel swarf though.

the main issue with it is the size, i've a friend who's 6' or 6'1" i think, and standing over it, he'd only maybe an inch clearance over the top tube.

CramCycle · 23-07-2020 9:29am

On the way into work today it was wetter than usual but I was surprised to see a Lifeguard vehicle overtake me, it really was not that bad.

magicbastarder · 23-07-2020 12:25pm

cletus wrote: »

Have you tried a seat post in it?

according to my cheapo calipers, the inner diameter of the tube is now about 26.5mm at its narrowest, but there's a variation of over half a mil between its front to back and side to side width.
i wonder if it's a 27.2mm standard so, in which case it's probably not quite as bad as i had feared. maybe someone tried to fit a 26.6 or 26.2mm seatpost to it.

edit: the specific model itself is not listed here, but there is a dawes 531 framed tandem listed at 27mm.

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/seatpost-sizes.html

also note that a company called cove once made a bike called the handjob.

Ryath · 23-07-2020 12:58pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/seatpost-sizes.html

also note that a company called cove once made a bike called the handjob.

Sure Planet X made a bike called Pompino, means blow job in Italian slang!

23-07-2020 4:11pm

Some live racing here www.ciclism.sibiu.ro prologue of the Sibiu Tour in Romania.

ironictoaster · 23-07-2020 6:36pm

New cyclist here, had my first encounter with a driver. Driver tried to beep me off the road for not using a nearby bike lane (it was unaccessible based on my road position ie massive kerb in the way and I didn't want to stop to lift my bike in moving traffic)

It was good craic telling him off :pac:

magicbastarder · 23-07-2020 9:50pm

conor dunne obviously expecting a cheque from failte ireland in the post after this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz0bOApvwOc

Seth Brundle · 23-07-2020 10:40pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

conor dunne obviously expecting a cheque from failte ireland in the post after this:

I'm liking the Irish GCN jersey.

Harrybelafonte · 24-07-2020 3:27pm

https://www.rte.ie/culture/2020/0722/1154915-how-munich-72-changed-irish-cycling-forever/

Can't see this posted elsewhere

24-07-2020 4:22pm

On the subject of beautiful roads , I caught the end of the racing in Romania earlier and they were climbing up to Bâlea Lac. Stunning. That climb would rival anything from the grand tours in terms of looks.

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.59094,24.6262667,3a,75y,105.74h,85.88t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sruRTy2yJjohSnOlSX2i4sw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DruRTy2yJjohSnOlSX2i4sw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D61.071316%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656

eeeee · 24-07-2020 4:34pm

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/culture/2020/0722/1154915-how-munich-72-changed-irish-cycling-forever/

Can't see this posted elsewhere

Never knew that happened! Gonna have a listen, thanks Harry.
CI was born during that time, must have been part of it all (I know it was super rare to have an All island sport at the time, and it was hard to get the groups together).

magicbastarder · 24-07-2020 4:40pm

There's a TG4 documentary on the history of the Ras which deals with those events too. Been years since I saw it though, have been meaning to try to track down a copy, to see if my wife's uncle gets a mention. He'd have been involved pre the Olympic shenanigans.

RobFowl · 24-07-2020 5:14pm

eeeee wrote: »

Never knew that happened! Gonna have a listen, thanks Harry.
CI was born during that time, must have been part of it all (I know it was super rare to have an All island sport at the time, and it was hard to get the groups together).

Took until 1987 for the FIC (Federation of Irish cyclists) to actually come about.
They were the precursor to CI.
Anyone at the recent infamous PMQ EGM will tell you that passions regarding that were alive and well even then

Harrybelafonte · 24-07-2020 6:56pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

There's a TG4 documentary on the history of the Ras which deals with those events too. Been years since I saw it though, have been meaning to try to track down a copy, to see if my wife's uncle gets a mention. He'd have been involved pre the Olympic shenanigans.

Rás Tailteann – Rotha an tSaoil

If you really want a copy, you could maybe contact Dot TV or Sonta Teoranta who produced it. DOT are in Clare somewhere.

Won an award in 2013 afaik.

24-07-2020 11:36pm

Managed to trip over a rug earlier and proper smash my knee into a the edge of a coffee table and get sprawled on top of it length ways. Picked myself up and looked at the deep horizontal indent waiting for it to split and piss blood. It didn't thankfully but seriously thought I was heading for the hospital for a while. The eldest ran for the phone to call mam while the youngest asked why I fell. "I wasn't watching where I was going love", "you need to be more careful, don't hurt the other one, will I kiss it better?" (She's only 2)

Anyway it still hurts like **** even after a beer or 3 but herself checked it for me when she got home from work and doesn't think it needs looking at but goes to show you can properly do yourself in at home :rolleyes:

No spin for me in the morning

crosstownk · 25-07-2020 1:03am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Managed to trip over a rug earlier and proper smash my knee into a the edge of a coffee table and get sprawled on top of it length ways. Picked myself up and looked at the deep horizontal indent waiting for it to split and piss blood. It didn't thankfully but seriously thought I was heading for the hospital for a while. The eldest ran for the phone to call mam while the youngest asked why I fell. "I wasn't watching where I was going love", "you need to be more careful, don't hurt the other one, will I kiss it better?" (She's only 2)

Anyway it still hurts like **** even after a beer or 3 but herself checked it for me when she got home from work and doesn't think it needs looking at but goes to show you can properly do yourself in at home :rolleyes:

No spin for me in the morning

If you can’t go for a spin then have more beer. At least when you wake up you won’t even feel like going out on the bike.

Sunday might be a better option

eeeee · 25-07-2020 1:18am

Get some ice on it Enfilade, and support it on the couch. Although the best treatment was probably the kiss from the youngest!

25-07-2020 9:39am

It was actually quite comical her response to me falling and doing myself in. She simply repeated what I would have said to her after a bobo

It's sore today but really only a bother going up and down stairs. Could have been worse.

eeeee · 25-07-2020 11:14am

Deleted User wrote: »

It was actually quite comical her response to me falling and doing myself in. She simply repeated what I would have said to her after a bobo

It's sore today but really only a bother going up and down stairs. Could have been worse.

Awwww! That's adorable

I still await the Chronicles of the Enfilade clan.
And the Chronicles of mini Cram.

Ye've had ages get to it! :P

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