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DCM 2019 - Mentored Novices Thread
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- Did you get in all the runs on your plan - if not, then why not?
All runs completed
- Did you run the runs at an appropriate pace?
Some mistakes here, mentioned my PMP run on Wed was bracketed by warm up and cool down that were too fast, as well as exceeding the PMP at times.
LSR was going well, nice & slow, until I got the text about the takeaway being en route from my OH
:D Only slightly faster than intended and it was still warm by the time I was home :pac:
Otherwise the Easy and recovery runs were good pace.
Takeaway lessons (Har har) - better ETA calculation, better pace monitoring on the PMP runs0 -
Unknownability wrote:They are in order and it was, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
Yeah just thinking it might be an idea to start your week on a Sunday as opposed to a Monday if you're going to do LRs on Fridays..would keep the sequence and recovery pattern more intact? Just with the way you had last week there was less recovery time between the PMP miles and LR than planned. It probably felt ok, but if that was week 12 for example, there are 9 miles at pace and a 16 mile long run. You'll want that recovery period (or at least most would
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Yeah just thinking it might be an idea to start your week on a Sunday as opposed to a Monday if you're going to do LRs on Fridays..would keep the sequence and recovery pattern more intact? Just with the way you had last week there was less recovery time between the PMP miles and LR than planned. It probably felt ok, but if that was week 12 for example, there are 9 miles at pace and a 16 mile long run. You'll want that recovery period (or at least most would )
That's a great idea about altering the starting day, I didn't think of that.0 -
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Hi all!
Did you get all your runs in? If not, why not?
Bear with me on this one... I have explained this before but just to get it all in one place here! I'm planning on following the HHN1 Marathon Plan, but I had signed up for the Clontarf HM aaages ago to motivate me to get up to the miles I needed to be up to before starting the Marathon Plan... confused yet? The Clontarf HM was yesterday.
So, up until yesterday I was actually following the HHN1 Half Marathon Plan. This meant the past week was a taper week. I adjusted days a little bit so that I'd get the required 2 rest days prior to the half marathon. And... I couldn't resist a recovery jog today!
So, the week went like this:
Monday: 4 miles easy; 12.02 min/mile
Tues: 3 miles easy; 11.30 min/mile
Wednesday: 2 miles easy; 11.21 min/mile
Thurs and Fri: Rest (huh... fat chance..."rest" is a relative term in this house!:rolleyes:)
Saturday: 13.1 miles, pushing it a bit (for me!), seeing as it's a race; 11:33 min/mile
Sunday: 3 miles very, very easy recovery; 12:42
Did you run at appropriate paces?
Yes, I think so. I'm running to heart rate, so that dictates my speed.
The Clontarf Half Marathon was a great experience really. It's the furthest I have ever run
I went out pretty easy, with the intention of using the race as a long slow-ish run. Looking back over the splits, I kept a really good consistency in pace throughout (average 11:33 min/mile), and whilst I realise this is not at all fast, the thing that stuck out to me was that I didn't really get any slower as the race went on, and I finished feeling pretty good and strong. Yay!
The soft sand at each end of the beach section was a bit of a drag, but short-lived. I lived right beside the beach for many years, and did loooads of running on hard sand, so I loved most of the beach bit! I'd great support from family too, as I'm originally from the area, so they hopped on and off buses, and cycled, to bring them up and down the course, popping up at unexpected places to cheer me on, much to my delight
Chip Time: 2:31:03
I did struggle though, with an ongoing problem I'm having with tummy pains as I run...sharp, radiating cramps just under my diaphragm... appeared after Mile 1, and stayed with me until about Mile 4, then disappeared (which made the run so much more enjoyable!), then rejoined me from about Mile 9 right to the bloody end. I'm going to have to figure this out, as it has plagued me for years now, and the thoughts of battling the marathon itself with this feckin pain... ugh
So, that's the end of the Half Marathon Plan.
I now have a bit of a dilemma. I've progressed up to LSRs of 9, 10, and 11 miles over this training block. If I do the HHN1 Marathon Plan as originally intended, I feel I'm dropping back on this hard-won consistency... so... Fab Mentors... is there anything to be said for doing the HHN2 plan instead?
I'm a bit unsure about both HHN2 and the Boards Plan as I don't fully understand how the planned faster runs within these plans fit with my overarching wish to stick to heart rate training... I do a hills session every week as it is, but it's hills-in-reverse... run fast down them, jog back up them, to get the speed up without sending the BPM over threshold!
I'd value your opinions
Well done to everyone on another week! And to everyone who raced over the weekend too! I know a couple of us can now call ourselves Half Marathoners after this weekend
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Hi DBB - congrats on Clontarf. How does the body feel today?
I had a look at HHN2 and the midweek runs look to ramp up more quickly than the Boards plan. If you take a step-back week this week as discussed, then next week, your long run will be 9 miles, which isn't a step back. Are you concerned that the midweek mileage is a step back?0 -
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Bananaleaf wrote: »Am planning Saturday's LSR and it will include parkrun. I haven't decided whether parkrun will be the first 3mile or the last 3mile of it yet.
At the end is probably easier so you're not stopping to get the barcode scanned and then heading off again. Plus if you're with people you can head off for the post parkrun coffees easily 0 -
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Hi DBB - congrats on Clontarf. How does the body feel today?
I had a look at HHN2 and the midweek runs look to ramp up more quickly than the Boards plan. If you take a step-back week this week as discussed, then next week, your long run will be 9 miles, which isn't a step back. Are you concerned that the midweek mileage is a step back?
Hi Huzzah!
Thanks for your reply.
Okay... I may have been comparing the plans with the post HM fog I thought the LSRs dropped back more than they actually do
Midweek runs were at 5 miles, 4 miles, and 5 miles... A little higher than was required on the plan, but I just got myself into the habit. What ya think? Stick more strictly to the plan?
I felt better yesterday than I do today... Which may explain why I did that a very easy 3 miles recovery jog yesterday afternoon... But I'm not sure now that that was the best idea I ever had. Feeling pretty tired today, so taking it easy. Lesson learned 0 -
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Hi Huzzah!
Thanks for your reply.
Okay... I may have been comparing the plans with the post HM fog I thought the LSRs dropped back more than they actually do
Midweek runs were at 5 miles, 4 miles, and 5 miles... A little higher than was required on the plan, but I just got myself into the habit. What ya think? Stick more strictly to the plan?
I felt better yesterday than I do today... Which may explain why I did that a very easy 3 miles recovery jog yesterday afternoon... But I'm not sure now that that was the best idea I ever had. Feeling pretty tired today, so taking it easy. Lesson learned
Nothing wrong with a recovery run but in the circumstances, it might have meant a bigger week for you than was warranted.
I've looked at the HHN1 half plan and it's at most 5, 3, 5; had you also increased ahead of that plan?0 -
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Nothing wrong with a recovery run but in the circumstances, it might have meant a bigger week for you than was warranted.
I've looked at the HHN1 half plan and it's at most 5, 3, 5; had you also increased ahead of that plan?
Hey Huzzah!
Yes, I started the HM plan maybe 3 weeks, earlier than necessary, and got to the 5 mile midweek runs earlier accordingly. The 3 mile midweek run, I upped to 4 miles for a good few weeks too, all with the aim of getting the weekly miles up a bit.
I felt better as today went on too, just had hit a bit of a slump when I posted earlier
Thanks for your help Huzzah!, tis appreciated!0
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