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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭Eva WW


    Since i picked #4, it would stand there is a wolf in 1, 2 or 3.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭Desmond WW


    Mary WW wrote: »
    Because from 1-4 Eva is cleared, leaves 3. Assuming that everyone followed the plan (I know Vernon says he didn’t), and given none of us have claimed we got a prize; There are four wolves, and they have to block every lower number to win. That means they can only occupy numbers 1 to 4. But if 1 to 4 are blocked and village then 5 would still win. So a non village win means 1 to 4 aren’t all village

    Im sorry, I am still not getting you. Why isnt Conor a suspect ?

    There are 4 baddies. If they voted 1-4 that means Conor would win the prize ?!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭WerewolfGM


    A shot has been fired.

    Eva WW has been killed

    She was:
    Doc Cochran


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭Eva WW


    Because if the wolves voted 1-4 there would be no wolves left to be Conor (in theory).


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭Desmond WW


    Eva WW wrote: »
    Because if the wolves voted 1-4 there would be no wolves left to be Conor (in theory).

    Ah, ok . . Interesting . .


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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭Brendan WW


    Well, that answers that question I guess.

    DESMOND!!!

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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭Mary WW


    Desmond WW wrote: »
    Im sorry, I am still not getting you. Why isnt Conor a suspect ?

    There are 4 baddies. If they voted 1-4 that means Conor would win the prize ?!

    It doesn’t clear #5, it just tells us there’s a wolf in the 3

    (assuming Vernon’s story isn’t legit)


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    WerewolfGM wrote: »
    A shot has been fired.

    Eva WW has been killed

    She was:
    Doc Cochran

    Ok so there is definitely a wolf in 1,2 or 3 IMO.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭Desmond WW


    Mary WW wrote: »
    It doesn’t clear #5, it just tells us there’s a wolf in the 3

    (assuming Vernon’s story isn’t legit)

    If Vernons story isnt legit then hes the wolf ? :confused:

    How could that not be obvious ?

    If he is telling the truth then a wolf could of chosen number 2 and none of us are anymore likely a wolf then anybody else.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭Brendan WW


    This is a fooking mess.

    I tend to believe Vernon and think Desmond is a shnake in the grass but logic dictates we probably have to lynch Vernon to confirm his story.

    Someone kindly point out the flaws in this now please.


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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭Desmond WW


    Holly WW wrote: »
    Ok so there is definitely a wolf in 1,2 or 3 IMO.
    Mary WW wrote: »
    It doesn’t clear #5, it just tells us there’s a wolf in the 3

    (assuming Vernon’s story isn’t legit)
    Brendan WW wrote: »
    Well, that answers that question I guess.

    DESMOND!!!

    tenor.gif

    Is this the bandwagon you were trying to get Brendan . . ;)


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭Mary WW


    Desmond WW wrote: »
    If Vernons story isnt legit then hes the wolf ? :confused:

    How could that not be obvious ?

    If he is telling the truth then a wolf could of chosen number 2 and none of us are anymore likely a wolf then anybody else.

    Correct except that there’s at least one wolf in the three of Vernon’s lying

    If he’s not then you’re spot on


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭Desmond WW


    Mary WW wrote: »
    Correct except that there’s at least one wolf in the three of Vernon’s lying

    If he’s not then you’re spot on

    Wait a second. If Vernon is lieing he is the wolf. Ok we are agreed on that.

    If hes not lieing and he missed vote number 2, then how exactly does that cast shade on the three of us ? The baddies could of block voted 1,2,3,4 which means they would have the gold and none of Mary, Vernon or myself had any involvement in them getting it.

    So how is there "at least one wolf" in the first 3 ? This isnt adding up at all.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭Mary WW


    Desmond WW wrote: »
    Wait a second. If Vernon is lieing he is the wolf. Ok we are agreed on that.

    If hes not lieing and he missed vote number 2, then how exactly does that cast shade on the three of us ? The baddies could of block voted 1,2,3,4 which means they would have the gold and none of Mary, Vernon or myself had any involvement in them getting it.

    So how is there "at least one wolf" in the first 3 ? This isnt adding up at all.

    Dear Jesus, read what I actually wrote

    Vernon lying=at least one wolf, I.e. Vernon in the 3

    Vernon not lying = **** knows who the wolves are


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,714 ✭✭✭Vernon WW


    Well I’m not lying but I have to take full responsibility for the mess we’re now in.

    If Conor as No5 had received the prize, it would as good as guaranteed that the wolfs were covering 1-4 but because of my cock up it’s all if, but’s and maybes.

    I’ll leave it to you lot to decide what happens in the next competition and if I’m part of it.

    RIP Eva. Sorry I let them win a bullet. ****, I feel so bad :(


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,760 ✭✭✭Angus WW


    Just popping in to see what we’re doing for goldrush? This is a complete mess! Anyone got a master plan?


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭Desmond WW


    Mary WW wrote: »
    Dear Jesus, read what I actually wrote

    Vernon lying=at least one wolf, I.e. Vernon in the 3

    Vernon not lying = **** knows who the wolves are

    Wait a second, you have insinuated multiple times "there a wolf in the other three":
    Mary WW wrote: »
    Correct except that there’s at least one wolf in the three of Vernon’s lying

    If he’s not then you’re spot on
    Mary WW wrote: »
    It doesn’t clear #5, it just tells us there’s a wolf in the 3

    (assuming Vernon’s story isn’t legit)

    You have been pushing this "wolf in the three" fake news .

    So for me, you, along with Brendan are my two people of interest. I would throw Steve (not a strong lean but just a hunch) onto that list mainly because he was the one that came up with the strategy that put you number one on the list to get the prize.

    Holly coming out of nowhere to back up the "1,2,3" voters has to have a wolf is also suspect. If vernon is innocent the baddies would know it and him being killed ("oh look see, Vernon was telling the truth and Desmond lied" or something like that) would allow the focus to turn to Brendans bandwagon , most likely on me.

    If Mary was Hearst or Tolliver our seer would die or peek a baddy good and when they come out lead the village to ruin . .

    Just a theory though . .


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭Brendan WW


    Desmond WW wrote: »
    Wait a second, you have insinuated multiple times "there a wolf in the other three":





    You have been pushing this "wolf in the three" fake news .

    So for me, you, along with Brendan are my two people of interest. I would throw Steve (not a strong lean but just a hunch) onto that list mainly because he was the one that came up with the strategy that put you number one on the list to get the prize.

    Holly coming out of nowhere to back up the "1,2,3" voters has to have a wolf is also suspect. If vernon is innocent the baddies would know it and him being killed ("oh look see, Vernon was telling the truth and Desmond lied" or something like that) would allow the focus to turn to Brendans bandwagon , most likely on me.

    If Mary was Hearst or Tolliver our seer would die or peek a baddy good and when they come out lead the village to ruin . .

    Just a theory though . .

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    You going crazy and OMGUSing anyone who speaks against you is weird.

    Not sure if wolfy behaviour, but weird nonetheless.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭Mary WW


    Desmond WW wrote: »
    Wait a second, you have insinuated multiple times "there a wolf in the other three":





    You have been pushing this "wolf in the three" fake news .

    So for me, you, along with Brendan are my two people of interest. I would throw Steve (not a strong lean but just a hunch) onto that list mainly because he was the one that came up with the strategy that put you number one on the list to get the prize.

    Holly coming out of nowhere to back up the "1,2,3" voters has to have a wolf is also suspect. If vernon is innocent the baddies would know it and him being killed ("oh look see, Vernon was telling the truth and Desmond lied" or something like that) would allow the focus to turn to Brendans bandwagon , most likely on me.

    If Mary was Hearst or Tolliver our seer would die or peek a baddy good and when they come out lead the village to ruin . .

    Just a theory though . .

    Wait, in all that’s gone on this morning that’s your sleuthing?

    I got added to the list cause someone wasn’t available but clearly that was engineered somehow?

    Vernon doesn’t even get a mention from you when his lying or otherwise is key to this mornings events?

    Several posters have explained why, if we followed the strategy, there has to be a wolf in the three but you just gloss that over?


    Oh man, you’ve been smoking or you’re just bad


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭Brendan WW


    Look, people are panicking here for no reason.

    The wolves can only win one prize whilst Ellsworth is alive right?

    So put Vernon, Des and Mary up again in whatever order and if they win and get use of a prize, they can't be wolves unless I'm missing something.

    Right?


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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,972 ✭✭✭Conor WW


    Quick check in between meetings. I had Vernon's "mistake" down as an attempt to get a seer peek on them, as Hearst kills the seer when peeked. Been looking out for innocent mistakes and might catch a seers eye. Would he a gutsy move if it worked.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,714 ✭✭✭Vernon WW


    I’m happy to vote whenever and for whatever number. I don’t want to be voting last minute though.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭Desmond WW


    Brendan WW wrote: »
    Look, people are panicking here for no reason.

    The wolves can only win one prize whilst Ellsworth is alive right?

    So put Vernon, Des and Mary up again in whatever order and if they win and get use of a prize, they can't be wolves unless I'm missing something.

    Right?

    This was always my concern about the Gold Rush strategy.
    Desmond WW wrote: »
    I don’t want a bandwagon situation later on in game where it’s set in stone that Vernon getting number 3 and winning the gold looks suss, so we should hang him! ;)

    Its ironic that i mentioned Vernon and he was the one that made the mistake. Its also ironic that you are making more of this strategy to use it exactly the opposite way I had intended.

    The original strategy was very simple. Pick 5 people who on thread will confirm the number they choose and reveal information about the prize. It would make it harder for wolves to strategically plan to get the prize and would hopefully give us information later on in the game as roles are revealed.

    Now you are trying to weaponize the strategy against those who are on the list.

    Whether the wolves have the prize or not they can manipulate the outcome. This was always the case. So lets make me number one for this next game and they can vote my chance away and you can say "hey why didnt desmond win it". .

    Brendan , for somebody who is accusing me of oversight on the OP, you are at best very clumsy and inconsistent in what you propose.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭Brendan WW


    Desmond WW wrote: »
    This was always my concern about the Gold Rush strategy.



    Its ironic that i mentioned Vernon and he was the one that made the mistake. Its also ironic that you are making more of this strategy to use it exactly the opposite way I had intended.

    The original strategy was very simple. Pick 5 people who on thread will confirm the number they choose and reveal information about the prize. It would make it harder for wolves to strategically plan to get the prize and would hopefully give us information later on in the game as roles are revealed.

    Now you are trying to weaponize the strategy against those who are on the list.

    Whether the wolves have the prize or not they can manipulate the outcome. This was always the case. So lets make me number one for this next game and they can vote my chance away and you can say "hey why didnt desmond win it". .

    Brendan , for somebody who is accusing me of oversight on the OP, you are at best very clumsy and inconsistent in what you propose.

    There's no perfect strategy. It's essentially the only clearing method on thread we have tbh.

    How is it clumsy? If you get a prize and use it, you're not a wolf as Ellsworth is still alive.

    Seems straight forward to me.

    Anyways I'll talk to you later when you get over your big hissy fit, you'd poke holes in a concrete wall if I put it up at the moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,404 ✭✭✭✭sKeith


    Reminder
    Goldrush times: Each day from 12:30:00pm-1:29:59pm and 4:30:00pm-5:29:59pm.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,714 ✭✭✭Vernon WW


    Do you want me to pick a number again? If so, what number?


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭Desmond WW


    Desmond WW wrote: »
    I don’t want a bandwagon situation later on in game where it’s set in stone that Vernon getting number 3 and winning the gold looks suss, so we should hang him! ;)

    Ok, if one of us is going to be cleared, I propose

    #1 Brendan
    #2 Conor
    #3 Vernon
    #4 Mary
    #5 Desmond


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭Brendan WW


    Desmond WW wrote: »
    Ok, if one of us is going to be cleared, I propose

    #1 Brendan
    #2 Conor
    #3 Vernon
    #4 Mary
    #5 Desmond

    Fine by me.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭Desmond WW


    some other villager needs to vote for maybe 6,7 and 8 just to be sure


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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭Brendan WW


    #1 sent


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