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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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  • #4412
    Allyall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    ~ So as mentioned before, he is an out and out coward. Pulled a knife, and ran away when confronted.


  • #4413
    coniosumadre
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭coniosumadre


    gangstergossip wrote: »
    Gamebred wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/hutch-and-pal-in-brutal-street-fight-with-killer-on-night-before-execution-34751145.html


    So now its got nothing to do with the feud with the Kinahans,murdered over a personal dispute.

    The guy who murdered gareth hutch was still paid by the cartel they were from the same area and he had an altercation with ross and pulled a knife on him and gareth ran out with a bat and chased him up the road. The guy whos name i cant write here then rang around cartel members in dublin to see if there was a price on gareths head and was told he would be paid a 5 figure sum if he took him out and he did the next morning
    Serious question though, Is this fact or at least word on the street, or just what's been reported in todays paper? i.e independent repeated this story word for word. And as someone already pointed out, if it took them 4 days to find out about this dispute that happened the night before. It doesn't say a lot about the credibility about their other headline grabbing, paper selling, front pages.


  • #4414
    Allyall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    coniosumadre wrote: »
    Serious question though, Is this fact or at least word on the street, or just what's been reported in todays paper? i.e independent repeated this story word for word. And as someone already pointed out, if it took them 4 days to find out about this dispute that happened the night before. It doesn't say a lot about the credibility about their other headline grabbing, paper selling, front pages.

    I was told about the dispute the next day by someone I barely know. He had said that many of the locals believed it was that guy that did it, and that was before the papers said anything.
    I thought it sounded a bit far fetched at the time, but it seems to be true. The altercation part anyway.


  • #4415
    coniosumadre
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭coniosumadre


    Allyall wrote: »
    coniosumadre wrote: »
    Serious question though, Is this fact or at least word on the street, or just what's been reported in todays paper? i.e independent repeated this story word for word. And as someone already pointed out, if it took them 4 days to find out about this dispute that happened the night before. It doesn't say a lot about the credibility about their other headline grabbing, paper selling, front pages.

    I was told about the dispute the next day by someone I barely know. He had said that many of the locals believed it was that guy that did it, and that was before the papers said anything.
    I thought it sounded a bit far fetched at the time, but it seems to be true. The altercation part anyway.
    Yeah I defnitley believe that part, just have a few doubts about the "last minute phone calls to the Kinahan enforcer" and " 5 figure sums" part. Is it a case of link it with the Kinahans for the greater good, no matter what?


  • #4416
    The flying mouse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    coniosumadre wrote: »
    Yeah I defnitley believe that part, just have a few doubts about the "last minute phone calls to the Kinahan enforcer" and " 5 figure sums" part. Is it a case of link it with the Kinahans for the greater good, no matter what?



    Headline with kinahan, hutch, shooting , sells lots of papers which equals more money, its a vicious circle.


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  • #4417
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    coniosumadre wrote: »
    Yeah I defnitley believe that part, just have a few doubts about the "last minute phone calls to the Kinahan enforcer" and " 5 figure sums" part. Is it a case of link it with the Kinahans for the greater good, no matter what?

    I think I read an article saying a kinahan associate was seen in the Octavia a few days before the shooting. Not 100% sure though.


  • #4418
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    They should arm that Canadian ambassador to the teeth and stick him on patrol around the north city. Eh?


  • #4419
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    coniosumadre wrote: »
    Serious question though, Is this fact or at least word on the street, or just what's been reported in todays paper? i.e independent repeated this story word for word. And as someone already pointed out, if it took them 4 days to find out about this dispute that happened the night before. It doesn't say a lot about the credibility about their other headline grabbing, paper selling, front pages.


    its been printed in the paper and its word on the street but seems to be true as the guys not around the area anymore him and ross were supposed to get into a bit of a shouting match nothing serious and he pulled a blade to scare him then gareth came out with the bat and he ran off. the hutches and there mates would be very feared in the area and he knows that as he would of grown up around them he wasnt expecting the 2 boys to start making threats to him after it and he thought that if he killed gareth he could take the money and **** off which i presume he did he was convicted of been in a INLA bomb factory before im sure this link and if you check the addresses will point you in the right direction i dont think this is breaking the thread rules since its an old news story

    www.independent.ie/irish-news/tight-security-as-five-remanded-in-bomb-factory-case-26476088.html


  • #4420
    [Deleted User]
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    He must've really feared for the safety of his child alright to get a bat and chase someone up the road during a time when there's a price tag on his head.
    He was either a complete liar (like they all are) or an absolute moronic thug (like they all are)


  • #4421
    tomofson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    He must've really feared for the safety of his child alright to get a bat and chase someone up the road during a time when there's a price tag on his head.
    He was either a complete liar (like they all are) or an absolute moronic thug (like they all are)

    What do you mean by "like they all are"?


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  • #4422
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    He must've really feared for the safety of his child alright to get a bat and chase someone up the road during a time when there's a price tag on his head.
    He was either a complete liar (like they all are) or an absolute moronic thug (like they all are)

    im not sticking up for any side but with the amount of family members they are after losing to murder in such a short space of time and then to hear that another one is been threatened by a convicted bomb maker up the road with a knife most people would run up and try to protect them, that family cant be mentally stable at the minute with the amount of close relations there losing to murder and the constant threat of been killed hovering over their own heads


  • #4423
    [Deleted User]
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    gangstergossip wrote: »
    im not sticking up for any side but with the amount of family members they are after losing to murder in such a short space of time and then to hear that another one is been threatened by a convicted bomb maker up the road with a knife most people would run up and try to protect them, that family cant be mentally stable at the minute with the amount of close relations there losing to murder and the constant threat of been killed hovering over their own heads
    I don't buy any of that ****e.
    Self preservation is what you do, not tool up and act like you can do as you please.
    Most people wouldn't try and take on a bomb maker wielding a knife.


  • #4424
    arayess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    He must've really feared for the safety of his child alright to get a bat and chase someone up the road during a time when there's a price tag on his head.
    He was either a complete liar (like they all are) or an absolute moronic thug (like they all are)


    his cousin was being threatened with a knife by a man known to be violent and you'd expect him to sit in and watch it all go by.
    family means something to some people...i guess you aren't one of them


  • #4425
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    I don't buy any of that ****e.
    Self preservation is what you do, not tool up and act like you can do as you please.
    Most people wouldn't try and take on a bomb maker wielding a knife.

    most people i think would if they thought they were about to kill one of their family members what kind of coward would hide in side and let a family member be stabbed to death outside?


  • #4426
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    Most people wouldn't try and take on a bomb maker wielding a knife.


    It's not Mario Karts. They don't carry the bombs with them.


  • #4427
    [Deleted User]
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    arayess wrote: »
    his cousin was being threatened with a knife by a man known to be violent and you'd expect him to sit in and watch it all go by.
    family means something to some people...i guess you aren't one of them

    The letter he sent to the social didn't mention his cousin, but his child.
    I expected all this ****e.
    Every time one of the family is murdered, he was admirable, honourable , was protecting his family......blah blah blah.
    They inflicted enough terror and misery on other people, karma is always a prick.


  • #4428
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    humberklog wrote: »
    It's not Mario Karts. They don't carry the bombs with them.

    Who said that they do?
    The posters are using the word bomb maker to gain traction that he was doing something honourable, taking on a bomb maker.


  • #4429
    [Deleted User]
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    gangstergossip wrote: »
    most people i think would if they thought they were about to kill one of their family members what kind of coward would hide in side and let a family member be stabbed to death outside?

    Most people never put themselves in those situations , so your argument is about as strong as your street gossip stories!


  • #4430
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    The letter he sent to the social didn't mention his cousin, but his child.
    I expected all this ****e.
    Every time one of the family is murdered, he was admirable, honourable , was protecting his family......blah blah blah.
    They inflicting enough terror and misery on other people, karma is always a prick.

    yea it did mention his child because he knew there was a contract on his head from the cartel and he didnt want to be killed in his flat in front of his child. In this case he was protecting a family member and it got him killed nobody said he was honorable or admirable but he was killed for sticking up for a family member. Alot of people are inflicting terror and misery on our streets not just inner city criminals but the bankers that destroyed the country by your logic do they all deserve to be shot to death on the streets?


  • #4431
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    Most people never put themselves in those situations , so your argument is about as strong as your street gossip stories!

    you don't put yourself in these situations how can you help it if someone pulls a knife on your cousin? as i said before what i say on here is only rumour not 100 percent facts but at least i don't be gloating about people been murdered saying karma got them


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  • #4432
    [Deleted User]
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    gangstergossip wrote: »
    yea it did mention his child because he knew there was a contract on his head from the cartel and he didnt want to be killed in his flat in front of his child. In this case he was protecting a family member and it got him killed nobody said he was honorable or admirable but he was killed for sticking up for a family member. Alot of people are inflicting terror and misery on our streets not just inner city criminals but the bankers that destroyed the country by your logic do they all deserve to be shot to death on the streets?
    I have never stated at any stage in these threads that any of them deserved to die, so cop on!
    What I have a problem with is defending these guys as being innocent, admirable or deserving of sympathy!


  • #4433
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    I have never stated at any stage in these threads that any of them deserved to die, so cop on!
    What I have a problem with is defending these guys as being innocent, admirable or deserving of sympathy!

    sorry but my interpretation of

    "They inflicted enough terror and misery on other people, karma is always a prick."

    was that you condoned them been killed


  • #4434
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gangstergossip wrote: »
    sorry but my interpretation of

    "They inflicted enough terror and misery on other people, karma is always a prick."

    was that you condoned them been killed

    Nope, I do see the value of human life and I'm using it as a way of suggesting it would've happened at some stage to certain types of people and I cannot sympathise.


  • #4435
    Howjoe1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,666 ✭✭✭Howjoe1


    gangstergossip wrote: »
    its been printed in the paper and its word on the street but seems to be true as the guys not around the area anymore him and ross were supposed to get into a bit of a shouting match nothing serious and he pulled a blade to scare him then gareth came out with the bat and he ran off. the hutches and there mates would be very feared in the area and he knows that as he would of grown up around them he wasnt expecting the 2 boys to start making threats to him after it and he thought that if he killed gareth he could take the money and **** off which i presume he did he was convicted of been in a INLA bomb factory before im sure this link and if you check the addresses will point you in the right direction i dont think this is breaking the thread rules since its an old news story

    www.independent.ie/irish-news/tight-security-as-five-remanded-in-bomb-factory-case-26476088.html

    8 years sentence given in 2009 and should be still behind bars, and therein lies part of the problem with Law & Order in this Country.


  • #4436
    Dr Turk Turkelton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    The letter he sent to the social didn't mention his cousin, but his child.
    I expected all this ****e.
    Every time one of the family is murdered, he was admirable, honourable , was protecting his family......blah blah blah.
    They inflicted enough terror and misery on other people, karma is always a prick.

    You forgot about there being "anudder angle in hevean".


  • #4437
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Whats being overlooked by the media is why the kinahans got an armed escort from the minute they stepped off the plane for Byrnes funeral,incredible really they had an armed motor cade from the airport to Hotel and protection while here,I doubt anyone on the opposite side of this fued has been given the same perks.


  • #4438
    [Deleted User]
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    Gamebred wrote: »
    Whats being overlooked by the media is why the kinahans got an armed escort from the minute they stepped off the plane for Byrnes funeral,incredible really they had an armed motor cade from the airport to Hotel and protection while here,I doubt anyone on the opposite side of this fued has been given the same perks.

    That's true!
    It seems to suggest that the guards fear the family are more of a threat to law and order at this moment in time, possibly because of disso involvement.


  • #4439
    Bicky bicky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭Bicky bicky


    Did the hutches rule the north inner city threw fear or shear number of family and associates before all this?


  • #4440
    [Deleted User]
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    Bicky bicky wrote: »
    Did the hutches rule the north inner city threw fear or shear number of family and associates before all this?

    If the latter was true, then you would see less information being leaked from inside their crew and possibly a lot more people being murdered that don't share the name.


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  • #4441
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Bicky bicky wrote: »
    Did the hutches rule the north inner city threw fear or shear number of family and associates before all this?


    They have never ruled the inner city per say,the criminals in the family are not main players with any sort of decent money,The Monk is the only one with a brain between them at business,Gary would've been the highest ranked gangland figure in the family and that says it all really.


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