gangstergossip wrote: » Gamebred wrote: » http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/hutch-and-pal-in-brutal-street-fight-with-killer-on-night-before-execution-34751145.html So now its got nothing to do with the feud with the Kinahans,murdered over a personal dispute. The guy who murdered gareth hutch was still paid by the cartel they were from the same area and he had an altercation with ross and pulled a knife on him and gareth ran out with a bat and chased him up the road. The guy whos name i cant write here then rang around cartel members in dublin to see if there was a price on gareths head and was told he would be paid a 5 figure sum if he took him out and he did the next morning
Gamebred wrote: » http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/hutch-and-pal-in-brutal-street-fight-with-killer-on-night-before-execution-34751145.html So now its got nothing to do with the feud with the Kinahans,murdered over a personal dispute.
coniosumadre wrote: » Serious question though, Is this fact or at least word on the street, or just what's been reported in todays paper? i.e independent repeated this story word for word. And as someone already pointed out, if it took them 4 days to find out about this dispute that happened the night before. It doesn't say a lot about the credibility about their other headline grabbing, paper selling, front pages.
Allyall wrote: » coniosumadre wrote: » Serious question though, Is this fact or at least word on the street, or just what's been reported in todays paper? i.e independent repeated this story word for word. And as someone already pointed out, if it took them 4 days to find out about this dispute that happened the night before. It doesn't say a lot about the credibility about their other headline grabbing, paper selling, front pages. I was told about the dispute the next day by someone I barely know. He had said that many of the locals believed it was that guy that did it, and that was before the papers said anything. I thought it sounded a bit far fetched at the time, but it seems to be true. The altercation part anyway.
coniosumadre wrote: » Yeah I defnitley believe that part, just have a few doubts about the "last minute phone calls to the Kinahan enforcer" and " 5 figure sums" part. Is it a case of link it with the Kinahans for the greater good, no matter what?
Bam Bam Mickey wrote: » He must've really feared for the safety of his child alright to get a bat and chase someone up the road during a time when there's a price tag on his head. He was either a complete liar (like they all are) or an absolute moronic thug (like they all are)
gangstergossip wrote: » im not sticking up for any side but with the amount of family members they are after losing to murder in such a short space of time and then to hear that another one is been threatened by a convicted bomb maker up the road with a knife most people would run up and try to protect them, that family cant be mentally stable at the minute with the amount of close relations there losing to murder and the constant threat of been killed hovering over their own heads
Bam Bam Mickey wrote: » I don't buy any of that ****e. Self preservation is what you do, not tool up and act like you can do as you please. Most people wouldn't try and take on a bomb maker wielding a knife.
Bam Bam Mickey wrote: » Most people wouldn't try and take on a bomb maker wielding a knife.
arayess wrote: » his cousin was being threatened with a knife by a man known to be violent and you'd expect him to sit in and watch it all go by. family means something to some people...i guess you aren't one of them
humberklog wrote: » It's not Mario Karts. They don't carry the bombs with them.
gangstergossip wrote: » most people i think would if they thought they were about to kill one of their family members what kind of coward would hide in side and let a family member be stabbed to death outside?
Bam Bam Mickey wrote: » The letter he sent to the social didn't mention his cousin, but his child. I expected all this ****e. Every time one of the family is murdered, he was admirable, honourable , was protecting his family......blah blah blah. They inflicting enough terror and misery on other people, karma is always a prick.
Bam Bam Mickey wrote: » Most people never put themselves in those situations , so your argument is about as strong as your street gossip stories!
gangstergossip wrote: » yea it did mention his child because he knew there was a contract on his head from the cartel and he didnt want to be killed in his flat in front of his child. In this case he was protecting a family member and it got him killed nobody said he was honorable or admirable but he was killed for sticking up for a family member. Alot of people are inflicting terror and misery on our streets not just inner city criminals but the bankers that destroyed the country by your logic do they all deserve to be shot to death on the streets?
Bam Bam Mickey wrote: » I have never stated at any stage in these threads that any of them deserved to die, so cop on! What I have a problem with is defending these guys as being innocent, admirable or deserving of sympathy!
gangstergossip wrote: » sorry but my interpretation of "They inflicted enough terror and misery on other people, karma is always a prick." was that you condoned them been killed
gangstergossip wrote: » its been printed in the paper and its word on the street but seems to be true as the guys not around the area anymore him and ross were supposed to get into a bit of a shouting match nothing serious and he pulled a blade to scare him then gareth came out with the bat and he ran off. the hutches and there mates would be very feared in the area and he knows that as he would of grown up around them he wasnt expecting the 2 boys to start making threats to him after it and he thought that if he killed gareth he could take the money and **** off which i presume he did he was convicted of been in a INLA bomb factory before im sure this link and if you check the addresses will point you in the right direction i dont think this is breaking the thread rules since its an old news storywww.independent.ie/irish-news/tight-security-as-five-remanded-in-bomb-factory-case-26476088.html
Bam Bam Mickey wrote: » The letter he sent to the social didn't mention his cousin, but his child. I expected all this ****e. Every time one of the family is murdered, he was admirable, honourable , was protecting his family......blah blah blah. They inflicted enough terror and misery on other people, karma is always a prick.
Gamebred wrote: » Whats being overlooked by the media is why the kinahans got an armed escort from the minute they stepped off the plane for Byrnes funeral,incredible really they had an armed motor cade from the airport to Hotel and protection while here,I doubt anyone on the opposite side of this fued has been given the same perks.
Bicky bicky wrote: » Did the hutches rule the north inner city threw fear or shear number of family and associates before all this?
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