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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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  • #4082
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    It is, they have it in their posession recovered from the scene, they want to know about its movements...

    Car in front truck is victims Passat, car behind is shooters 7 Series BMW which Gardaí referring to as 5 Series...
    http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.2659344.1464117361!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg

    They're also towing a Hyundai coupe there. I wonder about it's involvement.


  • #4083
    Benevolent Misanthrope
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭Benevolent Misanthrope


    smash wrote: »
    They're also towing a Hyundai coupe there. I wonder about it's involvement.
    Was parked beside car Hutch was getting into - could have DNA evidence etc.


  • #4084
    TheNap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 786 ✭✭✭TheNap


    I wish i could afford to drive a VW Passat


  • #4085
    cowboyBuilder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    So why would the shooter hand himself in ? doesn't make sense - unless he's not part of the gang and was pressured into it ?


  • #4086
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    TheNap wrote: »
    I wish i could afford to drive a VW Passat


    Not sure what relevance this has to the victim or the thread? the murdered man worked as a taxi man,maybe if you went out and worked you could afford one.


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  • #4087
    Benevolent Misanthrope
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭Benevolent Misanthrope


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Not sure what relevance this has to the victim or the thread? the murdered man worked as a taxi man,maybe if you went out and worked you could afford one.
    Or if you made your money from crime.


  • #4088
    harry Bailey esq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    blue_blue wrote: »
    I, for one, am glad Gareth Hutch is dead. All these scumbags can continue killing each other. It means the state won't be paying for their social welfare for the rest of their disgusting lives wearing tracksuits.

    And where might you be from good sir?Not the north inner city im guessing.


  • #4089
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Benevolent Misanthrope wrote: »
    Or if you made your money from crime.


    Yeah victim must of really been living it up living in them corporation flats great life from crime.


  • #4090
    coniosumadre
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭coniosumadre


    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    So why would the shooter hand himself in ? doesn't make sense - unless he's not part of the gang and was pressured into it ?
    Exactly. I'd imagine the guy who handed himself in was the guy who's house was raided around the corner. If he was one of the two directly involved, I seriously doubt he would of handed himself in.


  • #4091
    tomofson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    And what about the innocents that are killed ?

    Why would you give that dog the pleasure of responding to its comment? I just ignore them obvious attention seeking trolls out for shock value


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  • #4092
    Coat22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Coat22


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Benevolent Misanthrope wrote: »
    Or if you made your money from crime.


    Yeah victim must of really been living it up living in them corporation flats great life from crime.

    Ah sure God love all them poor Hutchs - not a penny between them. :angel:


  • #4093
    TheNap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 786 ✭✭✭TheNap


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Yeah victim must of really been living it up living in them corporation flats great life from crime.

    Can you live in social housing while working full time as a taximan ?


  • #4094
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    TheNap wrote: »
    Can you live in social housing while working full time as a taximan ?

    depends how much you earn i suppose


  • #4095
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    humberklog wrote: »
    The Garreth Hutch assassination looks clunky but it was effective. The killers got into a position of observation and we're able to remain there, they made sure to kill Garreth and they escaped the scene.

    Firing over the shoulder of his accomplice surely wouldn't be best practice but I thought it showed a comfort with each other rather than a haphazard moment. He took those shots to make sure of the kill. That takes experience and confidence.

    "Best Practice", "Comfortable", "experience and confidence".

    You reckon they took training courses ?

    Good God man, the papers are correct, Irish people are becoming indifferent to the killings at this stage when commentary on the quality of the killers is being discussed with such descriptiveness.


  • #4096
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Peter Anthony wrote: »
    Lol was wondering where you disappeared to thought you might have gone into hiding

    i only pop up when their bullets are running low lol


  • #4097
    Benevolent Misanthrope
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭Benevolent Misanthrope


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Yeah victim must of really been living it up living in them corporation flats great life from crime.
    I can't think of a better way to avoid hassle from CAB (other than to get a real job, I suppose).


  • #4098
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    whats saorseans new twitter accounts name is it still saorsean?


  • #4099
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Benevolent Misanthrope wrote: »
    I can't think of a better way to avoid hassle from CAB (other than to get a real job, I suppose).



    Yeah serious boss with that passat worth about 5 grand,escobar hutch they called him just stayed in that flat while under threat so cab wouldnt get to him,was on his way to his malahide mansion when killed.


  • #4100
    Coat22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Coat22


    gangstergossip wrote: »
    TheNap wrote: »
    Can you live in social housing while working full time as a taximan ?

    depends how much you earn declare i suppose
    FYP


  • #4101
    Coat22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Coat22


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Benevolent Misanthrope wrote: »
    I can't think of a better way to avoid hassle from CAB (other than to get a real job, I suppose).



    Yeah serious boss with that passat worth about 5 grand,escobar hutch they called him just stayed in that flat while under threat so cab wouldnt get to him,was on his way to his malahide mansion when killed.

    He was involved in the attempted bank robbery in Lucan and I very much doubt that was his first or last "job" ever. The guy was a criminal, maybe a "retired" criminal but a criminal none the same (how do you "retire" as a criminal? Do HR ring you up one day and tell you you've hit the shceme retirement age??)


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  • #4102
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    coniosumadre wrote: »
    Exactly. I'd imagine the guy who handed himself in was the guy who's house was raided around the corner. If he was one of the two directly involved, I seriously doubt he would of handed himself in.

    There was 2 shooters. After that fella handed himself in, the media said gardai were looking for one other person in connection to it.


  • #4103
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Coat22 wrote: »
    He was involved in the attempted bank robbery in Lucan and I very much doubt that was his first or last "job" ever. The guy was a criminal, maybe a "retired" criminal but a criminal none the same (how do you "retire" as a criminal? Do HR ring you up one day and tell you you've hit the shceme retirement age??)


    No idea where your going with this :confused: I have no access to the mans financial details either do you,the assumptions he has money because he drove a passat is hilarious,if he was worth money he wouldnt be begging the council to move him from his ground floor flat.


  • #4104
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gamebred wrote: »
    No idea where your going with this :confused: I have no access to the mans financial details either do you,the assumptions he has money because he drove a passat is hilarious,if he was worth money he wouldnt be begging the council to move him from his ground floor flat.

    The general had more money than you or I, he drove a ****ty Renault 5 and he still queued up for his dole without fail!


  • #4105
    FixitFelix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,203 ✭✭✭FixitFelix


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    The general had more money than you or I, he still queued up for his dole without fail!

    And also had houses in ranelagh and upmarket Cowper downs,collected his dole as a finger to the authorities than actual need, not all these lads are loaded


  • #4106
    Peter Anthony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    Coat22 wrote: »
    He was involved in the attempted bank robbery in Lucan and I very much doubt that was his first or last "job" ever. The guy was a criminal, maybe a "retired" criminal but a criminal none the same (how do you "retire" as a criminal? Do HR ring you up one day and tell you you've hit the shceme retirement age??)

    He was acquitted of that. But sure dont let that stop your ramblings. If he was the millionaire mastermind criminal you believe you think he would be sitting in his council flat in Dublin City Centre like a sitting duck. Wheres his major convictions either.

    Use some logic ffs


  • #4107
    eamonnq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,014 ✭✭✭eamonnq


    Peter Anthony wrote: »
    He was acquitted of that. But sure dont let that stop your ramblings. If he was the millionaire mastermind criminal you believe you think he would be sitting in his council flat in Dublin City Centre like a sitting duck. Wheres his major convictions either.

    Use some logic ffs

    Does that mean he wasn't involved ?


  • #4108
    septictank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭septictank


    More top journalism, the Regency hotel has moved to Raheny.

    http://www.sundayworld.com/news/courts/hutch-may-face-non-jury-trial-as-other-man-released-from-custody

    That and the 7 series BMW, no wonder the Gards are getting nowhere.


  • #4109
    ciapen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 ✭ciapen


    eamonnq wrote: »
    Does that mean he wasn't involved ?

    Aquitted = Not guilty,

    So there wasn`t the evidence to say he was involved.


  • #4110
    Coat22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Coat22


    Peter Anthony wrote: »
    He was acquitted of that. But sure dont let that stop your ramblings. If he was the millionaire mastermind criminal you believe you think he would be sitting in his council flat in Dublin City Centre like a sitting duck. Wheres his major convictions either.

    Use some logic ffs

    So you honestly believe he had no involvement in that just because the state could not prove it beyond a reasonable doubt??

    The robbery was foiled by the ERU. I'm assuming some escaped. Derek Hutch was jailed for it. Gareth Hutch suddenly went to live in Amsterdam for 2 years. Gardai and the DPP had enough evidence to seek and be granted a European arrest warrant for him. They couldn't prove in a court of law beyond a reasonable doubt that he was involved - fair enough. But you're either naeve or a sympatiser if you somehow believe this was all just either a big coincidence or some sort of set up.


    I'm not a millionaire but I have my own house. I don't think anyone said he was a millionaire - but he has lived off the proceeds of crime. His uncle was allegedly involved in some of the biggest robberies in the history of the sate and yet most of the family all still live within a square mile or two - do you really think thats down to poverty or some other reason?

    David Byrne hardly lived in Dalkey but did you see his funeral? Where they chose to live has nothing to do with how much they're worth.


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  • #4111
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,918 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    The most strange thing about all this is how much it's been played out in full view of the public. Faces and names known of those involved save a couple of the killings. Only this morning I stumbled on the identity of flatcap, his Facebook page and him grinning away there in the 'new hat he got for Christmas'. Quite surreal.


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