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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/shots-fired-at-boxing-weighin-in-dublin-hotel-34427111.html

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This thread has had multiple on-thread warnings to date that are being forgotten about. To summarise these warnings:

- No Gossip
- No naming people (by initials or nickname) that are not the focus of these incidents
- No Speculation
- No Gossip
- No naming addresses of suspects
- No requesting above info by PM, or otherwise

The discussion should focus on news items that have been substantiated rather than what is hearsay.
At a minimum there will be thread bans for those that ignore this warning.

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smash

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

It is, they have it in their posession recovered from the scene, they want to know about its movements...

Car in front truck is victims Passat, car behind is shooters 7 Series BMW which Gardaí referring to as 5 Series...
http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.2659344.1464117361!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg

They're also towing a Hyundai coupe there. I wonder about it's involvement.

Benevolent Misanthrope

smash wrote: »

They're also towing a Hyundai coupe there. I wonder about it's involvement.

Was parked beside car Hutch was getting into - could have DNA evidence etc.

TheNap

I wish i could afford to drive a VW Passat

cowboyBuilder

So why would the shooter hand himself in ? doesn't make sense - unless he's not part of the gang and was pressured into it ?

Gamebred

TheNap wrote: »

I wish i could afford to drive a VW Passat

Not sure what relevance this has to the victim or the thread? the murdered man worked as a taxi man,maybe if you went out and worked you could afford one.

Benevolent Misanthrope

Gamebred wrote: »

Not sure what relevance this has to the victim or the thread? the murdered man worked as a taxi man,maybe if you went out and worked you could afford one.

Or if you made your money from crime.

harry Bailey esq

blue_blue wrote: »

I, for one, am glad Gareth Hutch is dead. All these scumbags can continue killing each other. It means the state won't be paying for their social welfare for the rest of their disgusting lives wearing tracksuits.

And where might you be from good sir?Not the north inner city im guessing.

Gamebred

Benevolent Misanthrope wrote: »

Or if you made your money from crime.

Yeah victim must of really been living it up living in them corporation flats great life from crime.

coniosumadre

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

So why would the shooter hand himself in ? doesn't make sense - unless he's not part of the gang and was pressured into it ?

Exactly. I'd imagine the guy who handed himself in was the guy who's house was raided around the corner. If he was one of the two directly involved, I seriously doubt he would of handed himself in.

tomofson

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

And what about the innocents that are killed ?

Why would you give that dog the pleasure of responding to its comment? I just ignore them obvious attention seeking trolls out for shock value

Coat22

Gamebred wrote: »

Benevolent Misanthrope wrote: »

Or if you made your money from crime.

Yeah victim must of really been living it up living in them corporation flats great life from crime.

Ah sure God love all them poor Hutchs - not a penny between them. :angel:

TheNap

Gamebred wrote: »

Yeah victim must of really been living it up living in them corporation flats great life from crime.

Can you live in social housing while working full time as a taximan ?

gangstergossip

TheNap wrote: »

Can you live in social housing while working full time as a taximan ?

depends how much you earn i suppose

STB.

humberklog wrote: »

The Garreth Hutch assassination looks clunky but it was effective. The killers got into a position of observation and we're able to remain there, they made sure to kill Garreth and they escaped the scene.

Firing over the shoulder of his accomplice surely wouldn't be best practice but I thought it showed a comfort with each other rather than a haphazard moment. He took those shots to make sure of the kill. That takes experience and confidence.

"Best Practice", "Comfortable", "experience and confidence".

You reckon they took training courses ?

Good God man, the papers are correct, Irish people are becoming indifferent to the killings at this stage when commentary on the quality of the killers is being discussed with such descriptiveness.

gangstergossip

Peter Anthony wrote: »

Lol was wondering where you disappeared to thought you might have gone into hiding

i only pop up when their bullets are running low lol

Benevolent Misanthrope

Gamebred wrote: »

Yeah victim must of really been living it up living in them corporation flats great life from crime.

I can't think of a better way to avoid hassle from CAB (other than to get a real job, I suppose).

gangstergossip

whats saorseans new twitter accounts name is it still saorsean?

Gamebred

Benevolent Misanthrope wrote: »

I can't think of a better way to avoid hassle from CAB (other than to get a real job, I suppose).

Yeah serious boss with that passat worth about 5 grand,escobar hutch they called him just stayed in that flat while under threat so cab wouldnt get to him,was on his way to his malahide mansion when killed.

Coat22

gangstergossip wrote: »

TheNap wrote: »

Can you live in social housing while working full time as a taximan ?

depends how much you earn declare i suppose

FYP

Coat22

Gamebred wrote: »

Benevolent Misanthrope wrote: »

I can't think of a better way to avoid hassle from CAB (other than to get a real job, I suppose).

Yeah serious boss with that passat worth about 5 grand,escobar hutch they called him just stayed in that flat while under threat so cab wouldnt get to him,was on his way to his malahide mansion when killed.

He was involved in the attempted bank robbery in Lucan and I very much doubt that was his first or last "job" ever. The guy was a criminal, maybe a "retired" criminal but a criminal none the same (how do you "retire" as a criminal? Do HR ring you up one day and tell you you've hit the shceme retirement age??)

pablo128

coniosumadre wrote: »

Exactly. I'd imagine the guy who handed himself in was the guy who's house was raided around the corner. If he was one of the two directly involved, I seriously doubt he would of handed himself in.

There was 2 shooters. After that fella handed himself in, the media said gardai were looking for one other person in connection to it.

Gamebred

Coat22 wrote: »

He was involved in the attempted bank robbery in Lucan and I very much doubt that was his first or last "job" ever. The guy was a criminal, maybe a "retired" criminal but a criminal none the same (how do you "retire" as a criminal? Do HR ring you up one day and tell you you've hit the shceme retirement age??)

No idea where your going with this

I have no access to the mans financial details either do you,the assumptions he has money because he drove a passat is hilarious,if he was worth money he wouldnt be begging the council to move him from his ground floor flat.

[Deleted User]

Gamebred wrote: »

No idea where your going with this I have no access to the mans financial details either do you,the assumptions he has money because he drove a passat is hilarious,if he was worth money he wouldnt be begging the council to move him from his ground floor flat.

The general had more money than you or I, he drove a ****ty Renault 5 and he still queued up for his dole without fail!

FixitFelix

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

The general had more money than you or I, he still queued up for his dole without fail!

And also had houses in ranelagh and upmarket Cowper downs,collected his dole as a finger to the authorities than actual need, not all these lads are loaded

Peter Anthony

Coat22 wrote: »

He was involved in the attempted bank robbery in Lucan and I very much doubt that was his first or last "job" ever. The guy was a criminal, maybe a "retired" criminal but a criminal none the same (how do you "retire" as a criminal? Do HR ring you up one day and tell you you've hit the shceme retirement age??)

He was acquitted of that. But sure dont let that stop your ramblings. If he was the millionaire mastermind criminal you believe you think he would be sitting in his council flat in Dublin City Centre like a sitting duck. Wheres his major convictions either.

Use some logic ffs

eamonnq

Peter Anthony wrote: »

He was acquitted of that. But sure dont let that stop your ramblings. If he was the millionaire mastermind criminal you believe you think he would be sitting in his council flat in Dublin City Centre like a sitting duck. Wheres his major convictions either.

Use some logic ffs

Does that mean he wasn't involved ?

septictank

More top journalism, the Regency hotel has moved to Raheny.

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/courts/hutch-may-face-non-jury-trial-as-other-man-released-from-custody

That and the 7 series BMW, no wonder the Gards are getting nowhere.

ciapen

eamonnq wrote: »

Does that mean he wasn't involved ?

Aquitted = Not guilty,

So there wasn`t the evidence to say he was involved.

Coat22

Peter Anthony wrote: »

He was acquitted of that. But sure dont let that stop your ramblings. If he was the millionaire mastermind criminal you believe you think he would be sitting in his council flat in Dublin City Centre like a sitting duck. Wheres his major convictions either.

Use some logic ffs

So you honestly believe he had no involvement in that just because the state could not prove it beyond a reasonable doubt??

The robbery was foiled by the ERU. I'm assuming some escaped. Derek Hutch was jailed for it. Gareth Hutch suddenly went to live in Amsterdam for 2 years. Gardai and the DPP had enough evidence to seek and be granted a European arrest warrant for him. They couldn't prove in a court of law beyond a reasonable doubt that he was involved - fair enough. But you're either naeve or a sympatiser if you somehow believe this was all just either a big coincidence or some sort of set up.

I'm not a millionaire but I have my own house. I don't think anyone said he was a millionaire - but he has lived off the proceeds of crime. His uncle was allegedly involved in some of the biggest robberies in the history of the sate and yet most of the family all still live within a square mile or two - do you really think thats down to poverty or some other reason?

David Byrne hardly lived in Dalkey but did you see his funeral? Where they chose to live has nothing to do with how much they're worth.

Strumms

The most strange thing about all this is how much it's been played out in full view of the public. Faces and names known of those involved save a couple of the killings. Only this morning I stumbled on the identity of flatcap, his Facebook page and him grinning away there in the 'new hat he got for Christmas'. Quite surreal.