Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

Pj60 · 06-05-2016 07:09PM

What about rural ireland.clonown in athlone in particular when will they see it.nothing done on the flood situation yet so not holding my breath on broadband

KOR101 · 06-05-2016 07:11PM

ED E wrote: »

OpenEir still operate somewhat on the previous P&T districts, would Balrothery have been part of the Balbriggan district perhaps?

All the Balbriggan and Balrothery cabs have a BR2 prefix, so they certainly do lump them together.

I once talked to an urban economist about this and he said that there is a rule for how much distance there must be between towns before they are considered separate for census purposes. He told me the rule but I forget. But, Balbriggan and Balrothery are definitely defined to be separate towns, even though you could get into a debate about whether they do in fact satisfy the rule. Basically, the golf course car park is the separator.

marno21 · 18-05-2016 01:22PM

A total of 521 premises were connected to FTTH services in the last week:

Cavan Town, Co. Cavan, cab 025 (74)
Greystones, Co. Wicklow, cab 010 & 059 (278)
Rathedmond, Co. Sligo, cab 039 (169)

loyatemu · 18-05-2016 02:47PM

marno21 wrote: »

A total of 521 premises were connected to FTTH services in the last week:

Cavan Town, Co. Cavan, cab 025 (74)
Greystones, Co. Wicklow, cab 010 & 059 (278)
Rathedmond, Co. Sligo, cab 039 (169)

where are you getting that from - first time I've seen actual cab IDs listed for FTTH. Those 2 in Greystones are both in fairly new estates.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 18-05-2016 03:08PM

loyatemu wrote: »

where are you getting that from - first time I've seen actual cab IDs listed for FTTH. Those 2 in Greystones are both in fairly new estates.

http://www.openeir.ie/Techbytes/

Top article. I believe that it is the first mention of specific FTTH deployments in their weekly updates.

Also I think there is a typo in the speeds quoted. They should be up to 1000Mb/s not 100Mb/s.

MichaelR · 20-05-2016 08:19PM

Any idea what they charge end users, and whether there is a FUP on the traffic? Eir's FTTC has the 1TB FUP, which is probably fine at 30M, but can be hard on 1000M...

daraghwal · 20-05-2016 09:52PM

MichaelR wrote: »

Any idea what they charge end users, and whether there is a FUP on the traffic? Eir's FTTC has the 1TB FUP, which is probably fine at 30M, but can be hard on 1000M...

https://www.eir.ie/extreme/

I am sure if you read t&c on the website above there is something on FUP.

Edit: Actually I had a quick look and can only find the 1TB for eir fibre. Maybe someone with a FTTH contract can tell you.

eir on their website wrote:

Excess usage is charged at €2.03 per GB up to a maximum of €24.40 inc VAT per month. eir Fibre packages with an unlimited usage allowance are subject to a fair usage policy of 1TB per month. Usage in excess of 1TB will be charged at €2.50 inc VAT for every 10GB up to a maximum of €100 inc VAT per month.

MichaelR · 20-05-2016 09:58PM

Thanks for the link! It does explain the prices but sadly it does not seem to have a T&C link so nothing about the FUP.

daraghwal · 20-05-2016 10:17PM

MichaelR wrote: »

Thanks for the link! It does explain the prices but sadly it does not seem to have a T&C link so nothing about the FUP.

Yeah. I'd say it could be the same 1TB as there is nothing to say otherwise and the support page is a bit vague too just saying eir fibre

MichaelR · 20-05-2016 10:18PM

1Gb/s with 1TB FUP is unworkable, really. HD streaming will auto-set to max quality and could burn through a terabyte in a few days.

daraghwal · 20-05-2016 11:26PM

MichaelR wrote: »

1Gb/s with 1TB FUP is unworkable, really. HD streaming will auto-set to max quality and could burn through a terabyte in a few days.

I would say they will have to increase in the future when 4K (or more), VR, 3D etc. becomes the norm. 1TB will become unacceptable.

MichaelR · 20-05-2016 11:55PM

I think I would not even have an 1Gb service with 1TB FUP installed unless I could implement traffic shaping on my router. It could get waaaay to expensive very quickly.

daraghwal · 21-05-2016 12:02AM

MichaelR wrote: »

I think I would not even have an 1Gb service with 1TB FUP installed unless I could implement traffic shaping on my router. It could get waaaay to expensive very quickly.

It would but it will probably become the equivalent to what they used to do up to a few years ago. A 30GB limit that everyone went over but they never charged people for it. That plan was automatically upgraded to unlimited a few years ago. I don't know when, it just came up on my bill.

MichaelR · 21-05-2016 12:06AM

I have done some googling and a resolution would be a router with StreamBoost technology. It can be had for under 150 Euro. Not an impossibility, but I'd have to hook it up to the Eir router, ending up with a double NAT. Unless, of course, their router has StreamBoost

makeorbrake · 22-05-2016 03:08PM

I'm in a town where there are 3 exchanges. One of them is live - the other two have a status of work commenced - as regards fibre. How long generally does it take to complete a cabinet upgrade? Eir website indicates within 1 year - but I'd be hoping it is faster than that?

ED E · 22-05-2016 03:15PM

They probably aren't exchanges, its one exchange two remote cabs. There is no answer to your question, it depends on many factors.

daraghwal · 22-05-2016 04:49PM

makeorbrake wrote: »

I'm in a town where there are 3 exchanges. One of them is live - the other two have a status of work commenced - as regards fibre. How long generally does it take to complete a cabinet upgrade? Eir website indicates within 1 year - but I'd be hoping it is faster than that?

The only way for people to really know is to look at this map. http://www.openeir.ie/Our_Network/ Coming closer to the time a date is put up on the map but an eir tech here on boards told me the go live date for my local exchange a few weeks before the map was updated with the date.

legocrazy505 · 22-05-2016 04:56PM

makeorbrake wrote: »

I'm in a town where there are 3 exchanges. One of them is live - the other two have a status of work commenced - as regards fibre. How long generally does it take to complete a cabinet upgrade? Eir website indicates within 1 year - but I'd be hoping it is faster than that?

Sometimes 6 months, sometimes years. We've had two cabinets "coming within 6 months" for over a year now. An exchange near by went from one year to "25th of May" suddenly in one map update. You can't win really when it comes to Eir rollout times since there are just too many variables and of course Eir themsleves to tell when exactly cabinet rollouts are done.

Johnboy1951 · 22-05-2016 06:45PM

I reckon that information such as exact dates and so on is commercially sensitive which is why we, as user, do not get told very much.

I cannot blame eir for that! .... no matter how frustrating it is for those waiting for connections.

daraghwal · 22-05-2016 07:39PM

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

I reckon that information such as exact dates and so on is commercially sensitive which is why we, as user, do not get told very much.

I cannot blame eir for that! .... no matter how frustrating it is for those waiting for connections.

A ball park year would be nice though in fairness...

makeorbrake · 22-05-2016 08:11PM

daraghwal wrote: »

A ball park year would be nice though in fairness...

I can't remember exactly but things seem to have gone backwards in this regard. I'm pretty sure when I checked a few times last year, it was indicated when we could expect these cabinets to be upgraded. Now they are making it less clear.

Oh well, as one of you helped me with in another thread - I guess I'm not that bothered (don't think there's any specific application I need to use at 1Gbps right now) - albeit that of course, what I do run will function much better after the upgrade.

MichaelR · 24-05-2016 12:12PM

http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2057600196/1

I have asked Eir and they confirmed that the 1TB FUP applies to FTTH. Using a 1GB line with a 1TB FUP gotta be pretty tough, though I can understand Eir here too - a 1GB line with no FUP would be routinely shared between a few neighbours.

This probablyu means that if I get FTTH I have to shell out for a StreamBoost router.

Johnboy1951 · 24-05-2016 12:24PM

MichaelR wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2057600196/1

I have asked Eir and they confirmed that the 1TB FUP applies to FTTH. Using a 1GB line with a 1TB FUP gotta be pretty tough, though I can understand Eir here too - a 1GB line with no FUP would be routinely shared between a few neighbours.

This probablyu means that if I get FTTH I have to shell out for a StreamBoost router.

OT but ...... would inserting an old router in the line be a 'workaround' for some users? The older router having a 100Mb/s limit .....
Of course that could interfere with some services, but not most traffic.

....... just wondering ....

daraghwal · 24-05-2016 01:40PM

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

OT but ...... would inserting an old router in the line be a 'workaround' for some users? The older router having a 100Mb/s limit .....
Of course that could interfere with some services, but not most traffic.

....... just wondering ....

You could connect the fibre modem to the devices that you want to have a fast connection and then with the others connect them to another slower router acting as a bridge? So have one SSID with fast broadband and another with slower maybe? Might be an idea,

dam099 · 24-05-2016 07:31PM

MichaelR wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2057600196/1

I have asked Eir and they confirmed that the 1TB FUP applies to FTTH. Using a 1GB line with a 1TB FUP gotta be pretty tough, though I can understand Eir here too - a 1GB line with no FUP would be routinely shared between a few neighbours.

This probablyu means that if I get FTTH I have to shell out for a StreamBoost router.

Why would you go for the 1GB option if you are that concerned by the FUP? The 150/300Mb packages are cheaper and have the same FUP.

ED E · 24-05-2016 07:43PM

MichaelR wrote: »

This probablyu means that if I get FTTH I have to shell out for a StreamBoost router.

Might be more effective to run a PFSense box as a caching server. Good chance you'd have to intercept HTTPS transparently to really save but could be done with all but smart TVs etc.

boardzz · 24-05-2016 07:46PM

dam099 wrote: »

Why would you go for the 1GB option if you are that concerned by the FUP? The 150/300Mb packages are cheaper and have the same FUP.

That argument doesn't make sense.
If I drive Dublin to Galway its roughly 200Km.
If I cycle Dublin to Galway its roughly 200Km.
I obviously get there quicker by driving but I'll have travelled the same distance. I'm not going to keep driving regardless while the bicycle is getting there.

Are you trying to say that because you download everything faster you're going to be twiddling your thumbs looking for more to download.

daraghwal · 24-05-2016 07:51PM

ED E wrote: »

Might be more effective to run a PFSense box as a caching server. Good chance you'd have to intercept HTTPS transparently to really save but could be done with all but smart TVs etc.

You could also connect just the smart TV to a powerline extender that is limited to 100 or 200 Mbps. Eir tech support sell them atm for €30

daraghwal · 24-05-2016 07:54PM

boardzz wrote: »

That argument doesn't make sense.
If I drive Dublin to Galway its roughly 200Km.
If I cycle Dublin to Galway its roughly 200Km.
I obviously get there quicker by driving but I'll have travelled the same distance. I'm not going to keep driving regardless while the bicycle is getting there.

Are you trying to say that because you download everything faster you're going to be twiddling your thumbs looking for more to download.

You would use a lot more fuel in a big fast monster truck or Ferrari than you would in a little micra!
When speed is reduced, e.g. 4K cannot be used and systems such as youtube will use less (maybe 480p) to play a video. Reducing the amount of data being used up.

ED E · 24-05-2016 08:08PM

daraghwal wrote: »

You could also connect just the smart TV to a powerline extender that is limited to 100 or 200 Mbps. Eir tech support sell them atm for €30

1000GB vs 12MB/s (0.012GB/s):
83333s or 1388m or 23 hrs.

So in one day a 100Mb device burns your cap. And 100Mb vs 1000Mb doesn stop devices streaming at HBR 1080P so really its not a solution at all.

Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

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