Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

legocrazy505

bk wrote: »

I think a lot of people don't appreciate the amount of work that Virgin/UPC have been doing on their network behind the scenes over the last 10 years.

They have basically ripped out the majority of coax across the majority of network and replaced it with much higher quality coax and fibre to nodes to allow them deliver vastly higher speeds.

They have built a network over the last 10 years that allows 1/3rd of the homes in Ireland get 360Mb/s today and will be upgradeable to 1Gb/s in the next year or two.

They have been doing this work very quietly in the background, with non of the hoopla you get from Eir. It is this continuing work that you are seeing KOR101 now in your own area.

I realise it isn't as sexy as FTTH, but I don't think people appreciate that it is Virgin who are driving the Irish broadband market and are pretty core to it's current strength.

If only they'd help us outside the cities and major urban areas. Virgin definitely is great for people who can get it but Eir really are the only viable hope for us in villages and small towns seeing as Siro are taking a very long time to do things.

I mean this NBP/Eir FTTH can't come to our village soon enough (we're not on the blue lines at all):

marno21

Virgin would have an even bigger network if their predecessors weren't so lazy when it came to rolling out cable (eg Tralee & Killarney)

Virgin will never cover rural areas, even more so now that Eir have it sown up

ED E

Their model has always been slow steady growth, 50 homes here, 20 there. Zero risk.

KOR101

Had a caller to the house from Vodafone. Two days in a row...really didn't realise how sharp the competition is.

Fingleberries

KOR101 wrote: »

God Bless Competition :):)

Eir have lots of ads around Balbriggan that 1000mb speeds are now there, but actually they only seem to be in Balrothery.

They're also in the north west of the town as well, the newer estates up near Dunnes Stores (Moylaragh, Castle Mill, etc.).

Praetorian

Fingleberries wrote: »

They're also in the north west of the town as well, the newer estates up near Dunnes Stores (Moylaragh, Castle Mill, etc.).

Yes I did a survey of the town myself, and found it's in a few Virgin areas, no where near the blue lines. In areas they had cabs before. All of which is interesting.

9726_9726

I spoke to a KN installer yesterday will said that Mount Oval FTTH had pitiful uptake due to failed installs. The ducts in the estate are good, but all ALL blocked on the customer end, concreted over and tiled, etc, with just the copper cable protruding somewhere or other, into the master socket.

It goes like this:

"Missus, we can't find the end of your duct. You'd have to kango your hall and find it for us...."

"But I'm happy with my 70-100M on the cab, get away with yer kango!"

"Ok bye" (failed install)

pegasus1

9726_9726 wrote: »

I spoke to a KN installer yesterday will said that Mount Oval FTTH had pitiful uptake due to failed installs. The ducts in the estate are good, but all ALL blocked on the customer end, concreted over and tiled, etc, with just the copper cable protruding somewhere or other, into the master socket.

It goes like this:

"Missus, we can't find the end of your duct. You'd have to kango your hall and find it for us...."

"But I'm happy with my 70-100M on the cab, get away with yer kango!"

"Ok bye" (failed install)

Do those houses not have the cable enclosure on the outside wall of the house?

Also would those installers not have an electronic cable finder in their toolbox?

9726_9726

pegasus1 wrote: »

Do those houses not have the cable enclosure on the outside wall of the house?

He did comment that ETUs make it work but I got the impression there were none in Mount Oval. Certainly they were failing loads of jobs with no ETUs.

pegasus1

9726_9726 wrote: »

He did comment that ETUs make it work but I got the impression there were none in Mount Oval. Certainly they were failing loads of jobs with no ETUs.

Oh Thank the lord we have an ETU...All Hail the ETU..:D

9726_9726

pegasus1 wrote: »

Oh Thank the lord we have an ETU...All Hail the ETU..:D

Yeah, I got more info re rural FTTH installs in progress in Waterfall, near Cork city. Gonna post on that thread.

Praetorian

9726_9726 wrote: »

I spoke to a KN installer yesterday will said that Mount Oval FTTH had pitiful uptake due to failed installs. The ducts in the estate are good, but all ALL blocked on the customer end, concreted over and tiled, etc, with just the copper cable protruding somewhere or other, into the master socket.

It goes like this:

"Missus, we can't find the end of your duct. You'd have to kango your hall and find it for us...."

"But I'm happy with my 70-100M on the cab, get away with yer kango!"

"Ok bye" (failed install)

My missus will just have to live with the hole in the wall if Siro or Eir FTTH comes

ECO_Mental

9726_9726 wrote: »

I spoke to a KN installer yesterday will said that Mount Oval FTTH had pitiful uptake due to failed installs. The ducts in the estate are good, but all ALL blocked on the customer end, concreted over and tiled, etc, with just the copper cable protruding somewhere or other, into the master socket.

It goes like this:

"Missus, we can't find the end of your duct. You'd have to kango your hall and find it for us...."

"But I'm happy with my 70-100M on the cab, get away with yer kango!"

"Ok bye" (failed install)

I can see that alright Im in mount oval and got my FTTH last November. I had to do some "light" construction work to the marble floor tiles near the door....the missues hasn't spotted it yet :eek: but I had to cut out a small square in the floor as the pipe into the house is located under the flooring near the door. Lucky I knew this before hand and had to do some serious covert work during the day while she was in work. I am actually very proud of it considering that they are marble floor tiles it could have gone very wrong. Hopefully she wont read this post;) It was near the skirting board and I am left with an approx 75mmx75mm square cut out but by the grace of god I manged to find a matching sample tile from a tile shop. It was very funny because I put together a "Go Bag" for the operation when conveniently enough she was in Dublin for work.

But yeah as I mentioned in posts before getting the fiber into the house is the challenge once that is done the setup is very straight forward, and there would be no way in hell I would have 1Gb/s bb now if my missues ever know I would have to break out the tiles :rolleyes:

daraghwal

ECO_Mental wrote: »

I put together a "Go Bag" for the operation when conveniently enough she was in Dublin for work.

That is brilliant:D

pegasus1

ECO_Mental wrote: »

But yeah as I mentioned in posts before getting the fiber into the house is the challenge once that is done the setup is very straight forward, and there would be no way in hell I would have 1Gb/s bb now if my missues ever know I would have to break out the tiles :rolleyes:

Eco, what year was your house built? and why no ETU..?

ECO_Mental

Built 2006/2007 as my large neg equity mortgage will testify yeah no ntu just a black pipe from the manhole and that just poped up just inside the door in the middle of the floor. You just got lucky as to how close it was too the skirting board where the eircom socket would be. Disaster really but i suppose who knew in ten years time you would be pulling fibre

pegasus1

ECO_Mental wrote: »

Built 2006/2007 as my large neg equity mortgage will testify yeah no ntu just a black pipe from the manhole and that just poped up just inside the door in the middle of the floor. You just got lucky as to how close it was too the skirting board where the eircom socket would be. Disaster really but i suppose who knew in ten years time you would be pulling fibre

Surprised the then Eircom pulled their cable through it...and not stipulate an ETU..
http://www.reci.ie/Portals/0/Documents/eircominterface.pdf

ECO_Mental

pegasus1 wrote: »

Surprised the then Eircom pulled their cable through it...and not stipulate an ETU..
http://www.reci.ie/Portals/0/Documents/eircominterface.pdf

Wasn't an issue so long as they don't ( and won't) have to do the breaking out or ripping off skirting boards all they are doing is pulling the cable. One of the first lads here they pulled it up his cavity to the first floor think. Did a right job for him.

Johnboy1951

If the existing copper wiring enters the home in a duct, to say a media cabinet, with no external connection box other than an Eircom underground 'cabinet', would eir bring fibre through that same ducting into the house?

Wondering how they deal with 'upgrading' from copper in existing ducts to fibre ......

ECO_Mental

They are using the existing ducts and just pull it through the duct with your existing copper in place. Mine was pulled from the manhole out in the road

Johnboy1951

ECO_Mental wrote: »

They are using the existing ducts and just pull it through the duct with your existing copper in place. Mine was pulled from the manhole out in the road

Thanks, I was wondering if they were insisting on an external unit or not.

daraghwal

What happens in a house like mine which is literally 200 years old, has no ETU, has walls that are 2ft thick in places and the phone line that comes through a hole drilled in the top corner of a window frame then! :O

pegasus1

daraghwal wrote: »

What happens in a house like mine which is literally 200 years old, has no ETU, has walls that are 2ft thick in places and the phone line that comes through a hole drilled in the top corner of a window pane then! :O

The fibre will be brought to your ancient house the same way as your existing phone line then at the house it will be brought down the outside wall and into the house...via a drilled hole...

Or through the window frame if too hard to drill through all the stones and rubble in the wall...;-)

daraghwal

pegasus1 wrote: »

The fibre will be brought to your ancient house the same way as your existing phone line then at the house it will be brought down the outside wall and into the house...via a drilled hole...

Or through the window frame if too hard to drill through all the stones and rubble in the wall...;-)

Do they do attics and down through the ceiling by any chance?

pegasus1

daraghwal wrote: »

Do they do attics and down through the ceiling by any chance?

dunno, remember something about that they can't enter an attic, though that was years ago...

ECO_Mental

daraghwal wrote: »

Do they do attics and down through the ceiling by any chance?

I am sure they will do anything within reason, so long as you do all the construction work drilling etc. They are not going to drill or break anything out just in case you blame them for wreaking your house. But if you ask them to pull it through here in this hole i made then i don't see a problem.

The Cush

ECO_Mental wrote: »

One of the first lads here they pulled it up his cavity to the first floor think. Did a right job for him.

That was swoofer back in Nov, one of the first installs posted here IIRC.
Kept a link to the post - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=97791693#post97791693

loyatemu

ECO_Mental wrote: »

I am sure they will do anything within reason, so long as you do all the construction work drilling etc. They are not going to drill or break anything out just in case you blame them for wreaking your house. But if you ask them to pull it through here in this hole i made then i don't see a problem.

surprising they won't drill through a wall. Sky, Digiweb and Virgin have all drilled holes in my walls to deliver cables.

Fingleberries

Praetorian wrote: »

Yes I did a survey of the town myself, and found it's in a few Virgin areas, no where near the blue lines. In areas they had cabs before. All of which is interesting.

Got this installed last week.

It was a two-part install where a KN installer came by and activated the line (I was moving from Virgin), then about a week later two guys came to install the fibre line - the installation went OK, but took longer for the activation. Eir didn't activate the right line, so it took almost an hour longer than planned while the KN guys argued with Eir to activate it.

After that, there was still a problem with the profile on the line because I'm only getting 500Mb/s down - trying to work with Eir to get that sorted.

Fingleberries

Quick Question for anyone else who had the 1Gb fibre extreme installed. Which modem did you get? There was talk of a new modem, but I seem to have gotten the Huwawei F2000 model that has been doing the rounds for the last few years.

Is that right, or should there have been a different router sent out?