Do country people have difference accents?

Aongus Von Bismarck · 19-05-2016 03:29PM

beach_walker wrote: »

This. I remember being absolutely shocked at the ignorance of even Irish geography from Dubs when I lived there for a bit. Now I'm talking fairly basic things like say not knowing Galway city (town ) is on the coast, no idea of times to travel to pretty much any of the major towns in Ireland from Dublin, that the Shannon is a wee bit of a bigger beast than the Liffey (and don't even ask what towns if any lie on it). There's so much on their doorstep, yet shockingly enough plenty have never set foot out into it. Sad really.

There's large parts of the country that aren't worth visiting though. The Midlands for example. Roscommon, Carlow, Louth. Bland countryside and dead-end towns where groups of red-faced and bloated men stand in the doors of pubs pulling on rollie cigarettes or hang around in bookies betting on virtual greyhound racing. And the accents! There's an argument to be made for the various Louth accents being amongst the most offensive sounds in the world.

I wouldn't hire someone with a Louth or Westmeath accent. Could be lovely people but couldn't be dealing with that accent.

beach_walker · 19-05-2016 03:33PM

JustShon wrote: »

It's about necessity really.

Oh I realise that. I mean from a young age I would have found myself going up to Dublin again and again, and becoming familiar with that route. A Dub obviously wouldn't have to do an comparable regular journey. "All roads lead to Dublin" :pac:

Here lads, if we're gonna talk about accents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omtfe7lb-gE

topper75 · 19-05-2016 03:35PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

There's large parts of the country that aren't worth visiting though. The Midlands for example. Roscommon, Carlow, Louth.

Accentuating the negative?

Arigna mine tour, Altamont Gardens, Carlingford/Cooley Mountains.

Pretty glad I saw all those. I highly recommend.

StupidLikeAFox · 19-05-2016 03:37PM

mohawk wrote: »

What about the townies???

City people call me a bogger

Boggers call me a townie

I don't know what to think

maudgonner · 19-05-2016 05:02PM

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

City people call me a bogger

Boggers call me a townie

I don't know what to think

You're a togger. Or a bownie.

harry Bailey esq · 19-05-2016 05:04PM

Lt Dan wrote: »

Not when they are angry or drunk, especially when they are angry or drunk.

The way around that is to get angry and drunk yourself, alcohol is a great leveller when it comes to unintelligible lingo,anger works pretty well too I've found...

DavyD_83 · 19-05-2016 05:13PM

topper75 wrote: »

Accentuating the negative?

Arigna mine tour, Altamont Gardens, Carlingford/Cooley Mountains.

Pretty glad I saw all those. I highly recommend.

I'm another geographically challenged Dub.
I've been to a lot of places in the country, but wouldn't have been in charge of physically getting there in most cases, and even when there would only be vaguely aware of what county I'm in; seems pretty irrelevant to me.

Have visited Arigna Mines, Carlingford and climbed most mountains in the country, I still have little or no clue of which county most of them are in. Like poster above, I'd have trouble labelling all the counties on a map if I'm honest. if it was one with outlines of the counties and was actually placing labels I'd probably get about half, and then another chunk through process of elimination, but that almost feels like cheating.
Without working through it, point to any midlands county and I couldn't tell ye to be honest.

Off to find me a county naming Quiz and see how i get on

Right, I'm even worse than I thought I was; scored 3 out of 15 on my first try.
Not sure if I should admit to getting Cork wrong. Got confused between Cork & Kerry

enda1 · 19-05-2016 05:19PM

irishguy1983 wrote: »

From Cork and serious difference between country and city - particularly those from North Cork I find.

Also a difference between northside and southside.

Peter Stringer has what I would call a C4 voice whereas I am more like ROG and I love it

Explosive at the base of the ruck?!

hairyslug · 19-05-2016 05:20PM

I'm up in Donegal at the moment have no idea what anyone is saying to me let alone different class of accents

Gwynplaine · 19-05-2016 05:34PM

diomed wrote: »

"There's a drop of rain due. I'll be off out doing a bit of muck spreadin'"
Not something you hear too often in Dublin.

I've never heard anyone say it.
The Dublin mentality is hilarious. If you're not from Dublin, you're a muck savage who is married to his sister, loves mass, GAA, tayto, red lemonade, and a grand bit of ham.

topper75 · 19-05-2016 05:47PM

DavyD_83 wrote: »

I'm another geographically challenged Dub.

Folks outside Dublin aren't Ireland experts either. My closest urban area, Limerick, has some awfully insular mindsets too.

No obligation to know everything but having no appetite to know anything other than your own place would be a little sad.

You clearly have no such problems so fair play I say.

enda1 · 19-05-2016 06:05PM

Gwynplaine wrote: »

I've never heard anyone say it.
The Dublin mentality is hilarious. If you're not from Dublin, you're a muck savage who is married to his sister, loves mass, GAA, tayto, red lemonade, and a grand bit of ham.

Yes

Badly Drunk Boy · 19-05-2016 06:25PM

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

City people call me a bogger

Boggers call me a townie

I don't know what to think

I'm sure I'd be a bogger/culchie to a Dub, but even in school, it was always easy to tell who the real boggers were. The people who used terms like 'townies'.

beach_walker wrote: »

This. I remember being absolutely shocked at the ignorance of even Irish geography from Dubs when I lived there for a bit. Now I'm talking fairly basic things like say not knowing Galway city (town ) is on the coast, no idea of times to travel to pretty much any of the major towns in Ireland from Dublin, that the Shannon is a wee bit of a bigger beast than the Liffey (and don't even ask what towns if any lie on it). There's so much on their doorstep, yet shockingly enough plenty have never set foot out into it. Sad really.

In the olden days, back when I was a teenager, on the occasion of going to a gig (The Sugarcubes) in Dublin with a few friends, we got talking to a few Dublin girls who we ended up meeting up with over the next few months. When we said we were from Kildare, I was slightly surprised when one of them said "That's near Waterford, isn't it?". Another of them said "Don't be stupid! It's over by Longford.".

Maybe this naive culchie was surprised that people wouldn't know basic geography of their own country, but at least we got them to cross the border into Kildare a few times. ("Yes, girls. Kildare has a border with Dublin.")

JustShon wrote: »

Dub, Corkman, Kerryman, all sounds the same to a Yank.

A bit like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc6Ea2wn27c

failinis · 19-05-2016 07:14PM

Lt Dan wrote: »

Not when they are angry or drunk, especially when they are angry or drunk.

I think the accent can very harsh on the ears. Compared to Donegal anyway.

Moved to England and they all say its a very soft sing song voice, to be fair half thought I was Scottish so don't trust their judgement

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 19-05-2016 07:23PM

osarusan wrote: »

When my wife first moved to Ireland and met my neighbours in rural Clare, she hadn't a notion what they were saying. Even my mother - she kept asking me what was the 'sha' sound at the end of everything my mother said. I had no idea what she was talking about until I listened more carefully and realised it was 'sure (shur)' - 'We'll go shopping tomorrow sure' and similar.

While my brain would just filter 'sure' out to the point I wasn't even conscious of her saying it, for my wife, it seemed this crucial word added to the end of so many sentences.

Former classmate of mine from Denmark used to sometimes do this weird staring thing at me after I finished talking before he'd respond, didn't know what was going on because his English was excellent.

Eventually one day he asked me 'Like what though?'. This was in Galway but I wasn't long out of living in Cork and had been throwing 'like' in at the end of sentences without realising, so when he was staring he was waiting for me to finish the sentence.

puckmymuskie · 19-05-2016 09:24PM

I'm country and have an accent thats native. You always have the few arseholes who went away to visit relations or went to college and come back with the west brit/atlantic/college accent. pricks with notions.

endacl · 19-05-2016 10:35PM

puckmymuskie wrote: »

pricks with notions.

As opposed to shoulders with chips?

recylingbin · 19-05-2016 10:35PM

I have a difference engine that imitates accents. Mainly the Stephen hawking one

Into The Blue · 19-05-2016 10:41PM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Any chance you could draw us a map of Ireland with the regions 'country' and 'not country' drawn in different colours?

For the laf, like..

It's already done.. one side of m50 not country, order side, country.

JustTheOne · 19-05-2016 10:49PM

For such a small country we have so many different accents.

Why is this? Why different accents in general?

chosen1 · 19-05-2016 10:54PM

Boom_Bap wrote: »

It's not only the accents. What about the northern Co. Louth backwards hand wave/gesture for hello.
For example, if the guy in this image was not holding a ball and standing on a street corner in Carlingford, he would be waving at passerbys.

Actually seen this when I was in Carlingford a couple of years ago, from a lad in a 4x4. Vaguely remember seeing it other places down the country back 25 years ago.

jimgoose · 19-05-2016 10:56PM

Boom_Bap wrote: »

It's normally accompanied by the person saying 'Well hawrse!'

FYP!

BalcombeSt4 · 19-05-2016 11:36PM

Country places would be places like Mayo, Kerry, Fermanagh, Wexford, Armagh. Dublin and Limerick would be more city folk and Galway and Derry would be more hippy communes

The Sidewards Man · 20-05-2016 01:43AM

The country rule of dont ride the second but third and fourth cousin is ok is flawed.

Into The Blue · 20-05-2016 09:53AM

JustTheOne wrote: »

For such a small country we have so many different accents.

Why is this? Why different accents in general?

Historically very little inter country movement.

topper75 · 20-05-2016 10:24AM

Into The Blue wrote: »

Historically very little inter country movement.

Whereas other countries...?

The accent diversity is amazing in Ireland.

But try other countries. It goes one step further and you have whole distinct dialects.

e.g. Germany, Italy, UK, don't get me started on Spain.

Badly Drunk Boy · 20-05-2016 10:33AM

topper75 wrote: »

Whereas other countries...?

The accent diversity is amazing in Ireland.

But try other countries. It goes one step further and you have whole distinct dialects.

e.g. Germany, Italy, UK, don't get me started on Spain.

We have dialects in Irish too (Munster, Connaught, and Ulster) and I'm sure these affected the version of English spoken in their respective areas, as well as the accents.

Lt Dan · 20-05-2016 10:37AM

puckmymuskie wrote: »

I'm country and have an accent thats native. You always have the few arseholes who went away to visit relations or went to college and come back with the west brit/atlantic/college accent. pricks with notions.

Or, just realised that in the new educated environment, they have to speak properly.

You remind me of the type that thinks that they have made it working on the buildings at 17, can now by a car and do not need to go to college, happy out drinking in the same auld man's pub in the village (maybe with your dad) and be the man playing for the local Intermediate GAA team. The same guys who can not fathom why others want out of the area

jimgoose · 20-05-2016 11:17AM

Lt Dan wrote: »

Or, just realised that in the new educated environment, they have to speak properly.

You remind me of the type that thinks that they have made it working on the buildings at 17, can now by a car and do not need to go to college, happy out drinking in the same auld man's pub in the village (maybe with your dad) and be the man playing for the local Intermediate GAA team. The same guys who can not fathom why others want out of the area

People using various regional accents speak perfectly properly, thank you. And we have need of people who stay around their original areas and learn how to do things that actually need doing. There's nothing at all wrong with it. When everyone has a masters in Meeja Studies from Trin, our civilisation is surely doomed. This proceeds apace in the United States.

And "Country people" is a bit stodgy. We prefer the term "Buffers", bass.

whisky_galore · 20-05-2016 11:47AM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

Country places would be places like Mayo, Kerry, Fermanagh, Wexford, Armagh. Dublin and Limerick would be more city folk and Galway and Derry would be more hippy communes

Add West Cork to the hippy commune list, English, Dutch and German drop-outs who carve things out of driftwood and live with goats.

Do country people have difference accents?

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