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Do country people have difference accents?

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭Benevolent Misanthrope


    In fairness you people from every town in Ireland who have never lived anywhere else with the same outlook.
    Indeed. And outside Ireland too.

    Such people are to be pitied. And laughed at a little.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,606 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    In fairness you people from every town in Ireland who have never lived anywhere else with the same outlook.


    You people ! ?

    You people ! ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,903 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Half my wife's family (from Kerry) went to a convent school where they had elocution classes and they have a completely neutral accent as a result

    the other half went to VEC and have thick country accents!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭farmchoice


    to answer the question very much so. in fact each town and village in Ireland has more then one distinct accent if you are not from that town or village you might not be able to tell them apart but usually residents will easily spot them.

    in my town (ballina co mayo) there are 2 distinct town accents, there is also a middle class accent as well, in fact i would argue there are 2 (subtly different).

    i spend most of my day on the phone and i can usually tell which part of the town some is from by their accent, i can usually tell which of the local villages a person is from from their accent and pronunciation.

    once you move away from ballina and its environs i can't spot the difference in other mayo accents. i can tell south mayo from north mayo but i would not know claremorris from ballyhanius or ballinrobe, where as i am sure a local would.

    when people move away and then come back they tend to have developed a type of generic culchie moved to dublin accent (usually its dublin, london etc would be different, then its usually less change or complete change), if and when they move back again this diminishes with time and they revert to the more local lilt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    They certainly do. I grew up in rural Galway. It’s only when I head back there for a few days that I notice how strong some of the accents are. Some of them are almost animalistic in their intensity and I’m often forced to ask someone to repeat themselves just so I can begin to understand them.

    My brother has a friend who is a classic case in point. It’s almost impossible to understand what he is saying. Considering the calibre of my brother’s friends this might be a good thing.

    “Musha, how da phuc are you there, Aongus”. “How’s all over in Berlin or wherever da phuc you’re stationed these days?”

    I’ll normally just nod and smile at him rather than try and get involved in a conversation where I’ll struggle to comprehend what he’s trying to say. His appearance is distracting enough. Big red beetroot face, Champions League trophy ears and hair growing out his nose. Yes, hair out his nose, and he’s not even 30. What is most depressing is that he’s very proud of his unfiltered mucksavagery. An accent that sounds like someone is interfering with them from behind is part and parcel of this ‘bullthick bogger’ persona.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,606 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    They certainly do. I grew up in rural Galway. It’s only when I head back there for a few days that I notice how strong some of the accents are. Some of them are almost animalistic in their intensity and I’m often forced to ask someone to repeat themselves just so I can begin to understand them.

    My brother has a friend who is a classic case in point. It’s almost impossible to understand what he is saying. Considering the calibre of my brother’s friends this might be a good thing.

    “Musha, how da phuc are you there, Aongus”. “How’s all over in Berlin or wherever da phuc you’re stationed these days?”

    I’ll normally just nod and smile at him rather than try and get involved in a conversation where I’ll struggle to comprehend what he’s trying to say. His appearance is distracting enough. Big red beetroot face, Champions League trophy ears and hair growing out his nose. Yes, hair out his nose, and he’s not even 30. What is most depressing is that he’s very proud of his unfiltered mucksavagery. An accent that sounds like someone is interfering with them from behind is part and parcel of this ‘bullthick bogger’ persona.


    Getup ya boy ya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,059 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    I think that the accent is less likely to soften as they spend more of their time speaking with people who have the same accent.

    There's more of a mix in cities and accents will often get a bit softer over time.

    When my wife first moved to Ireland and met my neighbours in rural Clare, she hadn't a notion what they were saying. Even my mother - she kept asking me what was the 'sha' sound at the end of everything my mother said. I had no idea what she was talking about until I listened more carefully and realised it was 'sure (shur)' - 'We'll go shopping tomorrow sure' and similar.

    While my brain would just filter 'sure' out to the point I wasn't even conscious of her saying it, for my wife, it seemed this crucial word added to the end of so many sentences.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭Lollipop95


    There's a huge contrast between accents in Galway city and accents in rural Galway. I'm from East Galway, in college in Galway and the townies speak completely different to me or anyone I know from rural Galway. The Galway culchie accent has more thickness to it. In fact Galway has sometimes been referred to as "G4" (equivalent to Dublin's D4) due to some of the accents! The townies definitely have a posher accent than us culchies anyways! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭carrolls


    Country people are special.

    Ah begood eye yea!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭mohawk


    What about the townies???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,484 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    They certainly do. I grew up in rural Galway. It’s only when I head back there for a few days that I notice how strong some of the accents are. Some of them are almost animalistic in their intensity and I’m often forced to ask someone to repeat themselves just so I can begin to understand them.

    My brother has a friend who is a classic case in point. It’s almost impossible to understand what he is saying. Considering the calibre of my brother’s friends this might be a good thing.

    “Musha, how da phuc are you there, Aongus”. “How’s all over in Berlin or wherever da phuc you’re stationed these days?”

    I’ll normally just nod and smile at him rather than try and get involved in a conversation where I’ll struggle to comprehend what he’s trying to say. His appearance is distracting enough. Big red beetroot face, Champions League trophy ears and hair growing out his nose. Yes, hair out his nose, and he’s not even 30. What is most depressing is that he’s very proud of his unfiltered mucksavagery. An accent that sounds like someone is interfering with them from behind is part and parcel of this ‘bullthick bogger’ persona.

    I'm familiar with that gene pool Aongus, freckled hands? Poor posture? Ghastly....


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    It's not only the accents. What about the northern Co. Louth backwards hand wave/gesture for hello.
    For example, if the guy in this image was not holding a ball and standing on a street corner in Carlingford, he would be waving at passerbys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    It's not only the accents. What about the northern Co. Louth backwards hand wave/gesture for hello.
    For example, if the guy in this image was not holding a ball and standing on a street corner in Carlingford, he would be waving at passerbys.

    I mean no offence when I say this but... how the actual fcuk is that hand gesture a wave? If someone made that gesture to me on the street I'd assume they were asking me if I'd like my balls cupped briefly.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    JustShon wrote: »
    I mean no offence when I say this but... how the actual fcuk is that hand gesture a wave? If someone made that gesture to me on the street I'd assume they were asking me if I'd like my balls cupped briefly.
    It's normally accompanied by the person saying 'Well'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    failinis wrote: »
    I think a Derry City vs Derry County can be very varied.

    I find a Derry city accent very easy on the ear,especially when it comes to the fairer sex. Travel out to somewhere like Magherafelt though and you'll most likely need a translator and/or phrasebook.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    It's normally accompanied by the person saying 'Well'

    I can kinda see it, if I squint. I'll stick to Dublin's curt, and hardly noticeable, nod of acknowledgement. Or if you really respect the person you throw them some kind of half-arsed salute.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Gwynplaine wrote: »
    What's so great about Dublin? Everything is more expensive, gun crime, junkies, homeless people. It's noisy, smelly and congested too.
    "There's a drop of rain due. I'll be off out doing a bit of muck spreadin'"
    Not something you hear too often in Dublin.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    There's a huge contrast between accents in Galway city and accents in rural Galway. I'm from East Galway, in college in Galway and the townies speak completely different to me or anyone I know from rural Galway. The Galway culchie accent has more thickness to it. In fact Galway has sometimes been referred to as "G4" (equivalent to Dublin's D4) due to some of the accents! The townies definitely have a posher accent than us culchies anyways! :p

    I say this most affectionately , but, it would not be too hard to sound posh compared to people from some parts of East Galway, particularly North East Galway (I have family in those areas so I am not trying /intending to insult)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    I find a Derry city accent very easy on the ear,especially when it comes to the fairer sex. Travel out to somewhere like Magherafelt though and you'll most likely need a translator and/or phrasebook.

    Not when they are angry or drunk, especially when they are angry or drunk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭irishguy1983


    From Cork and serious difference between country and city - particularly those from North Cork I find.

    Also a difference between northside and southside.

    Peter Stringer has what I would call a C4 voice whereas I am more like ROG and I love it :)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    Donegal have a few distinct accents. Bundoran area sounds more like Connacht , being close to Leitirm & Sligo


    Then there is Dunloe & Gwweeeedore - God awful, Daniel O'Donnell and worse. Depressing

    Letterkenny area

    and Inishowen area


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    It's funny, we have these discussions between ourselves about if accents within the one county differ from each other and to foreigners we all sound the same throughout the whole country.

    Dub, Corkman, Kerryman, all sounds the same to a Yank.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Dr Crayfish


    JustShon wrote: »
    Dub, Corkman, Kerryman, all sounds the same to a Yank.

    They really don't, I work with a Cork and we sound like we're from different countries. He sounds more Welsh than he does Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    They really don't, I work with a Cork and we sound like we're from different countries. He sounds more Welsh than he does Dublin.

    Yet I've had people straight-faced tell me they can't tell one Irish accent from another.

    Of course I can hear the difference, but to someone outside Ireland, we just sound Irish.

    Obviously some people can tell the difference but a lot of them can't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭sheesh


    yes there are middle class accents outside the pale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    I love how Dublin folks who have never lived anywhere else think it's the centre of the universe. Very parochial worldview.
    In fairness you people from every town in Ireland who have never lived anywhere else with the same outlook.

    It can happen anywhere yes.

    There is something particularly intense about the Dublin myopia though, as illustrated to me in an encounter in Dublin in the 1980s when I wasn't very familiar with the place.

    I was in the Henry St. area (I now know). I enquired of an older lad with a grey mustache (no fool like) as to how I might get to Connolly station from where I was. Without a shadow of a smile on his lips, he "helpfully" informed me that it was over by Amiens St. and walked off.

    I have since travelled over the western world and some of Asia and never in that time have encountered a place with such a "sure doesn't everyone know that" attitude.

    People tend to be obsessed with their own little bubble. That is human. It just seems at times that Dublin's bubble is made of highly reflective soap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    topper75 wrote: »
    People tend to be obsessed with their own little bubble. That is human. It just seems at times that Dublin's bubble is made of highly reflective soap.

    It's for a similar reason to American's not ever holidaying outside of their country.

    Us Dubs rarely have a need to leave the county for any reason at all. I've gone 3 or 4 years in a row without stepping foot outside Dublin. For some Dubs they go their entire lives without leaving Dublin.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 976 ✭✭✭beach_walker


    JustShon wrote: »
    Us Dubs rarely have a need to leave the county for any reason at all. I've gone 3 or 4 years in a row without stepping foot outside Dublin. For some Dubs they go their entire lives without leaving Dublin.

    This. I remember being absolutely shocked at the ignorance of even Irish geography from Dubs when I lived there for a bit. Now I'm talking fairly basic things like say not knowing Galway city (town :p ) is on the coast, no idea of times to travel to pretty much any of the major towns in Ireland from Dublin, that the Shannon is a wee bit of a bigger beast than the Liffey (and don't even ask what towns if any lie on it). There's so much on their doorstep, yet shockingly enough plenty have never set foot out into it. Sad really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 833 ✭✭✭Riverireland


    I have family in Cork who get great craic out of the Dublin accent, even from people who I don't think have a Dublin accent. Hillarious, as they should hear themselves though I wouldn't be rude enough to point that out to them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    This. I remember being absolutely shocked at the ignorance of even Irish geography from Dubs when I lived there for a bit. Now I'm talking fairly basic things like say not knowing Galway city (town :p ) is on the coast, no idea of times to travel to pretty much any of the major towns in Ireland from Dublin, that the Shannon is a wee bit of a bigger beast than the Liffey (and don't even ask what towns if any lie on it). There's so much on their doorstep, yet shockingly enough plenty have never set foot out into it. Sad really.

    I know Galways is on the coast :P

    That said there's a tonne of counties I couldn't label on a map.

    It's about necessity really. Living in Dublin you don't ever need to leave for any reason. Outside of Dublin you're probably going to have to travel to neighbouring counties for certain things.


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