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Do country people have difference accents?

  • 18-05-2016 11:25PM
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 45


    Are there upper/middle class/working class Tipperary/Mayo accents?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭The Sidewards Man


    Country people are special.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    gourcuff28 wrote: »
    Are there upper/middle class/working class Tipperary/Mayo accents?

    No dey all tock de exac same so dey do so dey do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Any chance you could draw us a map of Ireland with the regions 'country' and 'not country' drawn in different colours?

    For the laf, like..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,666 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Yes I've noticed people from Cork and Galway do have a massive difference between city and county.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Aye


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,438 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Aye

    Hai


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭failinis


    I think a Derry City vs Derry County can be very varied.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    4 main types:
    Agricultural
    Less agricultural
    Much less agricultural
    The ones with notions about themselves because they were up in Dublin (the whole time) during college.


    Are ya still up in Dublin the whole time?
    I am ya.

    *Well not now as I'm standing here right in front of you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    endacl wrote: »
    Hai

    Imposter!


    Hai is a rhetorical full stop, aye is a positive response to a ceist!


    Bloody townie hai.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    gourcuff28 wrote: »
    Are there upper/middle class/working class Tipperary/Mayo accents?

    Mary Robinson. Martin Manseragh.

    Country people used to have very posh accents, if Protestant but that's dying out.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭The Sidewards Man


    Do they have different accents because they marry their relations?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Do they have different accents because they marry their relations?

    Do you ever have a night off to yourself?

    I'll rephrase that, does poor Maryanne ever get a night's peace?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭The Sidewards Man


    Tbm what is this interrogation? Pot, kettle there now Seamus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    There is only Dublin, Belfast, Cork and Omnibogger. That's it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    You're some cute hoo-er, OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,706 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    gourcuff28 wrote: »
    Are there upper/middle class/working class Tipperary/Mayo accents?
    Upperer than you?

    Starting a thread with just a question is bad forum.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,693 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Farmer types.
    Working joes.
    Horsey types.

    In ascending order of poshness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭Gwynplaine


    PARlance wrote: »
    4 main types:
    Agricultural
    Less agricultural
    Much less agricultural
    The ones with notions about themselves because they were up in Dublin (the whole time) during college years.

    *Well not now as I'm standing here right in front of you.

    What's so great about Dublin? Everything is more expensive, gun crime, junkies, homeless people. It's noisy, smelly and congested too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,799 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Do they have different accents because they marry their relations?



    You can have relations with your relations without marrying them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,693 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Gwynplaine wrote: »
    What's so great about Dublin? Everything is more expensive, gun crime, junkies, homeless people. It's noisy, smelly and congested too.


    I got shot three times the last time I was there.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭Benevolent Misanthrope


    Is anyone familiar with the phrase, "tuppence ha'penny looking down on tuppence"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭Gwynplaine


    Brian Kerr on TV3 last night, they needed subtitles on it because I couldn't understand a word. I suppose he's the equivalent of those Healy-Rae idiots, can't understand them either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    kneemos wrote: »
    I got shot three times the last time I was there.

    That's nothing I was shot 6 times by a smelly homeless junkie on a crowded street and no one cared because they were all going to their horse riding lessons in the burbs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭jacksie66


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    Gwynplaine wrote: »
    Brian Kerr on TV3 last night, they needed subtitles on it because I couldn't understand a word. I suppose he's the equivalent of those Healy-Rae idiots, can't understand them either.

    I can understand what Brian Kerr is saying but I don't want to hear it. I don't know if it's the combination of accent and voice, but I just can't listen to him. I prefer chalk scraping along a blackboard (so long as it's non-Dublin chalk).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,787 ✭✭✭Aglomerado


    Is anyone familiar with the phrase, "tuppence ha'penny looking down on tuppence"?

    Yup - I'm a mega culchie and proud of it!!!

    I've moved around a bit since I was 18 so I now have some sort of Galway / Scottish/ Cork accent.... my brother on the other hand is pure Easht Chlare...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Any chance you could draw us a map of Ireland with the regions 'country' and 'not country' drawn in different colours?

    For the laf, like..

    He probably thinks anything outside of Dublin tbh,

    No doubt there are different accents in every county and their different parts.

    There are different accents in each postcode in Dublin (Ballyfermot, Tallaght, Finglas,Rathmines,Dalkey, Blanchardstown etc) , so why wouldn't it be the same for the other counties which are MUCH larger.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    There is only Dublin, Belfast, Cork and Omnibogger. That's it.

    There is approximately 6 distinct accents in Dublin alone.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭Benevolent Misanthrope


    I love how Dublin folks who have never lived anywhere else think it's the centre of the universe. Very parochial worldview.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭Coffee Fulled Runner


    I love how Dublin folks who have never lived anywhere else think it's the centre of the universe. Very parochial worldview.

    In fairness you people from every town in Ireland who have never lived anywhere else with the same outlook.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭Benevolent Misanthrope


    In fairness you people from every town in Ireland who have never lived anywhere else with the same outlook.
    Indeed. And outside Ireland too.

    Such people are to be pitied. And laughed at a little.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,693 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    In fairness you people from every town in Ireland who have never lived anywhere else with the same outlook.


    You people ! ?

    You people ! ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,900 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Half my wife's family (from Kerry) went to a convent school where they had elocution classes and they have a completely neutral accent as a result

    the other half went to VEC and have thick country accents!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭farmchoice


    to answer the question very much so. in fact each town and village in Ireland has more then one distinct accent if you are not from that town or village you might not be able to tell them apart but usually residents will easily spot them.

    in my town (ballina co mayo) there are 2 distinct town accents, there is also a middle class accent as well, in fact i would argue there are 2 (subtly different).

    i spend most of my day on the phone and i can usually tell which part of the town some is from by their accent, i can usually tell which of the local villages a person is from from their accent and pronunciation.

    once you move away from ballina and its environs i can't spot the difference in other mayo accents. i can tell south mayo from north mayo but i would not know claremorris from ballyhanius or ballinrobe, where as i am sure a local would.

    when people move away and then come back they tend to have developed a type of generic culchie moved to dublin accent (usually its dublin, london etc would be different, then its usually less change or complete change), if and when they move back again this diminishes with time and they revert to the more local lilt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    They certainly do. I grew up in rural Galway. It’s only when I head back there for a few days that I notice how strong some of the accents are. Some of them are almost animalistic in their intensity and I’m often forced to ask someone to repeat themselves just so I can begin to understand them.

    My brother has a friend who is a classic case in point. It’s almost impossible to understand what he is saying. Considering the calibre of my brother’s friends this might be a good thing.

    “Musha, how da phuc are you there, Aongus”. “How’s all over in Berlin or wherever da phuc you’re stationed these days?”

    I’ll normally just nod and smile at him rather than try and get involved in a conversation where I’ll struggle to comprehend what he’s trying to say. His appearance is distracting enough. Big red beetroot face, Champions League trophy ears and hair growing out his nose. Yes, hair out his nose, and he’s not even 30. What is most depressing is that he’s very proud of his unfiltered mucksavagery. An accent that sounds like someone is interfering with them from behind is part and parcel of this ‘bullthick bogger’ persona.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,693 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    They certainly do. I grew up in rural Galway. It’s only when I head back there for a few days that I notice how strong some of the accents are. Some of them are almost animalistic in their intensity and I’m often forced to ask someone to repeat themselves just so I can begin to understand them.

    My brother has a friend who is a classic case in point. It’s almost impossible to understand what he is saying. Considering the calibre of my brother’s friends this might be a good thing.

    “Musha, how da phuc are you there, Aongus”. “How’s all over in Berlin or wherever da phuc you’re stationed these days?”

    I’ll normally just nod and smile at him rather than try and get involved in a conversation where I’ll struggle to comprehend what he’s trying to say. His appearance is distracting enough. Big red beetroot face, Champions League trophy ears and hair growing out his nose. Yes, hair out his nose, and he’s not even 30. What is most depressing is that he’s very proud of his unfiltered mucksavagery. An accent that sounds like someone is interfering with them from behind is part and parcel of this ‘bullthick bogger’ persona.


    Getup ya boy ya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,783 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    I think that the accent is less likely to soften as they spend more of their time speaking with people who have the same accent.

    There's more of a mix in cities and accents will often get a bit softer over time.

    When my wife first moved to Ireland and met my neighbours in rural Clare, she hadn't a notion what they were saying. Even my mother - she kept asking me what was the 'sha' sound at the end of everything my mother said. I had no idea what she was talking about until I listened more carefully and realised it was 'sure (shur)' - 'We'll go shopping tomorrow sure' and similar.

    While my brain would just filter 'sure' out to the point I wasn't even conscious of her saying it, for my wife, it seemed this crucial word added to the end of so many sentences.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭Lollipop95


    There's a huge contrast between accents in Galway city and accents in rural Galway. I'm from East Galway, in college in Galway and the townies speak completely different to me or anyone I know from rural Galway. The Galway culchie accent has more thickness to it. In fact Galway has sometimes been referred to as "G4" (equivalent to Dublin's D4) due to some of the accents! The townies definitely have a posher accent than us culchies anyways! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭carrolls


    Country people are special.

    Ah begood eye yea!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭mohawk


    What about the townies???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,488 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    They certainly do. I grew up in rural Galway. It’s only when I head back there for a few days that I notice how strong some of the accents are. Some of them are almost animalistic in their intensity and I’m often forced to ask someone to repeat themselves just so I can begin to understand them.

    My brother has a friend who is a classic case in point. It’s almost impossible to understand what he is saying. Considering the calibre of my brother’s friends this might be a good thing.

    “Musha, how da phuc are you there, Aongus”. “How’s all over in Berlin or wherever da phuc you’re stationed these days?”

    I’ll normally just nod and smile at him rather than try and get involved in a conversation where I’ll struggle to comprehend what he’s trying to say. His appearance is distracting enough. Big red beetroot face, Champions League trophy ears and hair growing out his nose. Yes, hair out his nose, and he’s not even 30. What is most depressing is that he’s very proud of his unfiltered mucksavagery. An accent that sounds like someone is interfering with them from behind is part and parcel of this ‘bullthick bogger’ persona.

    I'm familiar with that gene pool Aongus, freckled hands? Poor posture? Ghastly....


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    It's not only the accents. What about the northern Co. Louth backwards hand wave/gesture for hello.
    For example, if the guy in this image was not holding a ball and standing on a street corner in Carlingford, he would be waving at passerbys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    It's not only the accents. What about the northern Co. Louth backwards hand wave/gesture for hello.
    For example, if the guy in this image was not holding a ball and standing on a street corner in Carlingford, he would be waving at passerbys.

    I mean no offence when I say this but... how the actual fcuk is that hand gesture a wave? If someone made that gesture to me on the street I'd assume they were asking me if I'd like my balls cupped briefly.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    JustShon wrote: »
    I mean no offence when I say this but... how the actual fcuk is that hand gesture a wave? If someone made that gesture to me on the street I'd assume they were asking me if I'd like my balls cupped briefly.
    It's normally accompanied by the person saying 'Well'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    failinis wrote: »
    I think a Derry City vs Derry County can be very varied.

    I find a Derry city accent very easy on the ear,especially when it comes to the fairer sex. Travel out to somewhere like Magherafelt though and you'll most likely need a translator and/or phrasebook.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    It's normally accompanied by the person saying 'Well'

    I can kinda see it, if I squint. I'll stick to Dublin's curt, and hardly noticeable, nod of acknowledgement. Or if you really respect the person you throw them some kind of half-arsed salute.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Gwynplaine wrote: »
    What's so great about Dublin? Everything is more expensive, gun crime, junkies, homeless people. It's noisy, smelly and congested too.
    "There's a drop of rain due. I'll be off out doing a bit of muck spreadin'"
    Not something you hear too often in Dublin.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    There's a huge contrast between accents in Galway city and accents in rural Galway. I'm from East Galway, in college in Galway and the townies speak completely different to me or anyone I know from rural Galway. The Galway culchie accent has more thickness to it. In fact Galway has sometimes been referred to as "G4" (equivalent to Dublin's D4) due to some of the accents! The townies definitely have a posher accent than us culchies anyways! :p

    I say this most affectionately , but, it would not be too hard to sound posh compared to people from some parts of East Galway, particularly North East Galway (I have family in those areas so I am not trying /intending to insult)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    I find a Derry city accent very easy on the ear,especially when it comes to the fairer sex. Travel out to somewhere like Magherafelt though and you'll most likely need a translator and/or phrasebook.

    Not when they are angry or drunk, especially when they are angry or drunk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭irishguy1983


    From Cork and serious difference between country and city - particularly those from North Cork I find.

    Also a difference between northside and southside.

    Peter Stringer has what I would call a C4 voice whereas I am more like ROG and I love it :)


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