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Foxtrol · 18-05-2016 04:24PM

FizzleSticks wrote: »

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Agreed but I think the delusion that people are doing it for themselves is.

Maybe slogans like ‘because you’re worth it’ has gone to their heads.

Wibbs · 18-05-2016 04:41PM

Humans are a highly social species, so we do things that make us fit into the society we find ourselves in and/or choose*. The doing it for ourselves makes us feel better because of the day to day internal societal reward of belonging. This is why people will still do such things behind closed doors with nobody around.

*look at all the subcultures that self describe as "different". They usually hang out together and dress within their own uniform framework.

OldNotWIse · 18-05-2016 04:44PM

DivingDuck wrote: »

Firstly, I do believe people do this.

Secondly, in the cases of those who don't wear it solely for themselves, would "people who wear makeup wear it to gain the appreciation of people who appreciate people wearing makeup" satisfy you?

I was recently on study leave for five weeks. My average day (when I didn't have an exam) involved a walk with the dog, study for 6 hours, walk with the dog again plus dinner, study for 6 hours, then bed). I went days without seeing another person and I'm sure my dog doesn't care what I look like. I still started every day with a hot shower, applied mascara and a bit of lipgloss. I don't know why, other than it just made me feel good.

makingmecrazy · 18-05-2016 05:02PM

pone2012 wrote: »

pone2012 wrote: »

Whos asking you to be bothered?? You posted in this thread, i didnt ask you too...and my issue isnt with the individual at all...its the projected belief that we need to change our appearance to be acceptable...both to society, and ourselves, apparently

My point is I think its problematic that people feel the need to change their appearance that much...to be acceptable to themselves, or others. it speaks absolute volume about the state of peoples perception of themselves

For what must be the twentieth time, i couldn't care less about someone wearing a bit of makeup to compliment their features...how many more times need I say it? I am talking about extreme cases, which seem to be on the upsurge....and quite frankly I couldn't care less about them either..do as you please I don't go around slating others....I'm talking about what this represents..GOT IT? or is that still to difficult to understand

It has nothing to do with approval, or quantifying anything....stop dancing around the point and throwing sly, useless digs..its getting repetitive

I'm getting a teeny bit embarrassed for you now.
You are getting way too worked up, it can't be good for your blood pressure.
Are you this aggressive IRL?
All because I won't agree with you.
And, also because you are wrong

FizzleSticks · 18-05-2016 05:04PM

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makingmecrazy · 18-05-2016 05:04PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

What circumstance would it be deemed as ok for someone to refuse to leave the house without makeup (even in cases of a medical emergency)?

If a grown man refused to leave the house without putting on a clown mask people would think he had issues, you wouldn’t get responses that ‘ah, he’s doing it for himself’. Somehow society has brainwashed us to believe that it is ok to be so obsessed that we look a certain way all logic falls away and we believe that we’re doing it for ourselves.

If this is the case then what do they gain from it? If you heard a guy went home by himself and spent time and money to dress up in uncomfortable costumes and sit alone, what would you think?

Seemed to be the case for John Wayne Gacy alright :P

dont bother · 18-05-2016 05:04PM

makingmecrazy wrote: »

pone2012 wrote: »

I'm getting a teeny bit embarrassed for you now.
You are getting way too worked up, it can't be good for your blood pressure.
Are you this aggressive IRL?
All because I won't agree with you.
And, also because you are wrong

actually, your side of the argument has been rubbish. you have proved nothing except that you have feminist tendencies.

some women look like sh!t, others look like clows, others look good.
you can "feel" whatever you want "about yourself" but at the end of the day nobody gives a sh!te - they MAY get a laugh to themselves about your RIDICULOUS appearance, and some people will feel sorry for you when they see how obvious your "mask" is....

One eyed Jack · 18-05-2016 05:05PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

What circumstance would it be deemed as ok for someone to refuse to leave the house without makeup (even in cases of a medical emergency)?

It's deemed ok in circumstances where people are willing to make allowances for that person. How often are they getting themselves into medical emergencies though? That would concern me more than whether or not they refused to leave the house with makeup on. Some people are just like that. It's not going to cause the downfall of society that there are a handful of outliers among the population in all fairness.

If a grown man refused to leave the house without putting on a clown mask people would think he had issues, you wouldn’t get responses that ‘ah, he’s doing it for himself’. Somehow society has brainwashed us to believe that it is ok to be so obsessed that we look a certain way all logic falls away and we believe that we’re doing it for ourselves.

Yeah, some people would think he had issues, some people would understand where he was coming from, and likely the vast majority of people simply wouldn't care. That's not society brainwashing us into anything because by that standard, the same could apply to your own logic that has you thinking a woman has issues if she spends too much time on her makeup in the morning. I'd be thinking it's not the amount of time she spends on her makeup, it's what she gets done in that time, and if she's complaining that she's tired and she's having to get up early and all the rest of it, I'd be telling her I don't need to hear about it!

If this is the case then what do they gain from it? If you heard a guy went home by himself and spent time and money to dress up in uncomfortable costumes and sit alone, what would you think?

Sometimes people do things simply for the sheer enjoyment of it. Makeup sessions are no different than any other hobby. Some people even treat it like an art form. It's a relaxing way to spend an evening for some people, a social occasion for others, could be an infinite number of reasons. You're all the time looking for logic by your own standards, but other people don't apply your logic to their standards.

If I heard a guy went home by himself and spent time and money to dress up in uncomfortable costumes and sit alone, I'd figure he was probably a cross dresser if they were women's clothes. If he's a grown adult and he's not causing anyone else any harm, what exactly is there to be concerned about?

Honestly, I imagine I'm not alone in thinking that I have enough of my own shyte to be dealing with than concerning myself with how people's appearance might lead to the downfall of society or that I should even care that much.

I don't mind the odd conversation about it, but if someone is constantly going on about other people's appearance and analysing to the nth degree, I'd be thinking they definitely had issues tbh.

makingmecrazy · 18-05-2016 05:06PM

dont bother wrote: »

makingmecrazy wrote: »

actually, your side of the argument has been rubbish. you have proved nothing except that you have feminist tendencies.

some women look like sh!t, others look like clows, others look good.
you can "feel" whatever you want "about yourself" but at the end of the day nobody gives a sh!te - they MAY get a laugh to themselves about your RIDICULOUS appearance, and some people will feel sorry for you when they see how obvious your "mask" is....

That really hurt

dont bother · 18-05-2016 05:08PM

makingmecrazy wrote: »

Seemed to be the case for John Wayne Gacy alright :P

you're literally arguing against nothing though - the original post was about women who wore MAD amounts of makeup and fakery....

but you've turned it into a witchhunt against the OP and a weird feminazi approach to your replies.

nobody is slamming women here... it's just an opinion from the OP and you seem to be the one getting worked up in defense of something which the OP said is trivial...

you need to get out more - literally, if you are sat alone at home looking at yourself in the mirror thinking "i look great"

who cares if you look great. chances are nobody is looking anyway - it's modern Ireland, where it seems EVERYONE is fvcking vain as fvck so they're worrying about themselves and not how "great" you look

and lexie- GET OVER YOURSELF. fvcking hell - so contrived.

who cares about your teeth?! - you

18-05-2016 05:08PM

OldNotWIse wrote: »

This entire thread has become hysterical. Are you guys and gals all having your monthlies? :P

Triggered.

18-05-2016 05:10PM

dont bother wrote: »

actually, your side of the argument has been rubbish. you have proved nothing except that you have feminist tendencies.

some women look like sh!t, others look like clows, others look good.
you can "feel" whatever you want "about yourself" but at the end of the day nobody gives a sh!te - they MAY get a laugh to themselves about your RIDICULOUS appearance, and some people will feel sorry for you when they see how obvious your "mask" is....

You're so reasoned and moderate, I'm amazed people are discounting your opinions.

makingmecrazy · 18-05-2016 05:10PM

dont bother wrote: »

you're literally arguing against nothing though - the original post was about women who wore MAD amounts of makeup and fakery....

but you've turned it into a witchhunt against the OP and a weird feminazi approach to your replies.

nobody is slamming women here... it's just an opinion from the OP and you seem to be the one getting worked up in defense of something which the OP said is trivial...

you need to get out more - literally, if you are sat alone at home looking at yourself in the mirror thinking "i look great"

who cares if you look great. chances are nobody is looking anyway - it's modern Ireland, where it seems EVERYONE is fvcking vain as fvck so they're worrying about themselves and not how "great" you look

and lexie- GET OVER YOURSELF. fvcking hell - so contrived.

who cares about your teeth?! - you

*backs away very slowly*

maudgonner · 18-05-2016 05:11PM

pone2012 wrote: »

And yet you fail to see the underlying point

Of course you do, you've missed it these past something odd pages by banging on about women's rights and whatnot.. All because you don't like someone's opinion

I genuinely don't think it's the opinion that's the problem. It's your attitude and the way you express your opinion. It comes across as hostile and quite demeaning towards women. (Irish women, as you made clear a few pages in).

Had you posed the question with less inflammatory language then I don't think the reaction would have been the same - the HD brows thread from a few weeks ago had a very different atmosphere despite the content being much the same. But you deliberately set out to antagonise people, in much the same way as you've done in other threads.

So complaining about the reaction is a bit childish - like the kid who spends a whole lunch break taunting a rival to 'hit me, come on, hit me', and then goes crying to the teacher when he gets a belt in the (sour)puss.

dont bother · 18-05-2016 05:11PM

makingmecrazy wrote: »

dont bother wrote: »

That really hurt

your replies are playground level.

you are bothered by this because it touches a nerve.
you will NEVER be a kardashian, you're not famous, you are not a make-up genius or guru or whatever...

anyway - lets not forget that they used to *and still do in certain cases - test make up on PIGS. that says it all to me.

makingmecrazy · 18-05-2016 05:13PM

dont bother wrote: »

makingmecrazy wrote: »

your replies are playground level.

you are bothered by this because it touches a nerve.
you will NEVER be a kardashian, you're not famous, you are not a make-up genius or guru or whatever...

anyway - lets not forget that they used to *and still do in certain cases - test make up on PIGS. that says it all to me.

Jeez dont hold back on how you really feel.

dont bother · 18-05-2016 05:14PM

makingmecrazy wrote: »

*backs away very slowly*

where are you backing away to? your room, alone, to look in the mirror?!

haha

you're "funny and cute" -

dont bother · 18-05-2016 05:15PM

makingmecrazy wrote: »

dont bother wrote: »

Jeez dont hold back on how you really feel.

i wont.
you dont seem to either.

irish women do not look good when trying to emulate the natural beauty of other countries.....

they are supposed to be pale, not covered in layers of fvcking brown sh!t and everything they can put on their heads to make themselves look "better" - (better meaning what i dunno)....

painted pigs

18-05-2016 05:18PM

dont bother wrote: »

i wont.
you dont seem to either.

irish women do not look good when trying to emulate the natural beauty of other countries.....

they are supposed to be pale, not covered in layers of fvcking brown sh!t and everything they can put on their heads to make themselves look "better" - (better meaning what i dunno)....

painted pigs

Yes, calling people pigs doesn't help your cause.

18-05-2016 05:18PM

Well.. this thread went from being funny to being misandristic and misogynistic.

One eyed Jack · 18-05-2016 05:18PM

dont bother wrote: »

your replies are playground level.

you are bothered by this because it touches a nerve.
you will NEVER be a kardashian, you're not famous, you are not a make-up genius or guru or whatever...

anyway - lets not forget that they used to *and still do in certain cases - test make up on PIGS. that says it all to me.

Man your jocks must be riding up, take a breath will ya! :pac:

dont bother · 18-05-2016 05:20PM

Candie wrote: »

Yes, calling people pigs doesn't help your cause.

i'm not calling anyone in this thread a pig, what i'm saying is - it's laughable.

if this thread had been started by a female, it would have been "oh yeah the state of your woman wearing that level of make up"

so why do the so-called "cackle gang" get so worked up because a male brought up the topic?

"that's OUR thing - you're not allowed talk about it"?

either way - i know you secretly agree with the fact that most women who wear ridiculous levels of fake sh!t on themselves look stupid and rough. simple as.

dont bother · 18-05-2016 05:20PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Well.. this thread went from being funny to being misandristic and misogynistic.

yeah, women being misogynistic towards men - yet again.

makingmecrazy · 18-05-2016 05:21PM

Candie wrote: »

Yes, calling people pigs doesn't help your cause.

Why is the fact that some women wear a lot of make up so upsetting to some?
Its not like its being brought into legislation across the board or anything. I also like the fact that I am typing this without as much as a screed of mascara.

18-05-2016 05:22PM

dont bother wrote: »

yeah, women being misogynistic towards men - yet again.

Er. You can't be misogynistic towards men, right?

dont bother · 18-05-2016 05:23PM

makingmecrazy wrote: »

Why is the fact that some women wear a lot of make up so upsetting to some?
Its not like its being brought into legislation across the board or anything. I also like the fact that I am typing this without as much as a screed of mascara.

no no, you have it wrong (or have twisted it yet again)....

people are annoyed, because if you or candie or lexie or another woman had started the thread, you'd all be in agreement that the ones in the thick make up look a mess "oh the state" "yer one's tan is sh!te" etc etc....

THAT's what's annoying... you've derailed the whole thing with your agenda.

dont bother · 18-05-2016 05:23PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Er. You can't be misogynistic towards men, right?

you know what i mean.

makingmecrazy · 18-05-2016 05:24PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Er. You can't be misogynistic towards men, right?

:D

Edit Don't the schools have a few more weeks left before the break? The traffic will be so much better then

FizzleSticks · 18-05-2016 05:25PM

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Foxtrol · 18-05-2016 05:26PM

OldNotWIse wrote: »

I was recently on study leave for five weeks. My average day (when I didn't have an exam) involved a walk with the dog, study for 6 hours, walk with the dog again plus dinner, study for 6 hours, then bed). I went days without seeing another person and I'm sure my dog doesn't care what I look like. I still started every day with a hot shower, applied mascara and a bit of lipgloss. I don't know why, other than it just made me feel good.

Doesn’t really sound like the same effort as what we’ve been discussing but have you ever had a think about why it makes you feel good to put that on, or why you’d feel worse without it?

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