Seeing as nobodys asked the question

suicide_circus wrote: »

If you use extensive makeup to enhance your looks, the likelihood is that your partner will become accustomed to this and probably secretly find you quite plain and haggard when you don't have your slap on.

I once had a girl I used knock around with who'd usually wear the full face of make-up. Used to LOVE getting to see her without it, thought she looked gorgeous either way but there was something really sexy and intimate about seeing her like that when hardly anybody did.

Candie wrote: »

You can't win.

Now that's very true, no matter what level of effort one puts into one's appearance, what particular style or from that appearance takes, there are going to be loads of people whose attitude to it basically boils down to 'STOP LOOKING LIKE THAT'. Far easier in the long run to not give a crap, but it can be hard to get to that point.

pone2012 wrote: »

NOW YOU'RE GETTING IT

I have a dream...where the men of Ireland will wake up beside the same woman they fell asleep beside

Not a new entity...along with a crushed image of their makeup covered doppelgänger welded to the pillow and bedsheets with fake tan skid-marks

pone2012 wrote: »

actually it was about makeup, until someone made it about nationality...when i asked where I initially spoke about nationality in my opening post it was ignored

So not about nationality, until others made it about that

Id be glad to see it go back on topic

You were the VERY first person to make mention of a nationality in this whole entire thread.
:pac::pac:

FizzleSticks wrote: »

Okay okay okay threads do go off topic.

Its been..interesting.

Back to the original point of your thread, well make-up is nice, sometimes people put too much on for other peoples liking but ultimately if you don't like it there will be another lad who won't even notice it. Everyone has their own preferences. That's about it from me, keep it classy amigos.

So...don't be fat but don't be ordering salad in a restaurant, have the consideration to put on make-up but not too much make-up, EXACTLY THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF MAKE-UP, take pride in your appearance but don't be up yourself you stuck up cow nobody's looking at you, but people are looking at you so make sure you look nice, have a great body but don't be all like 'I'm going to the gym', and definitely definitely definitely don't be Irish because they are the worst. Am I missing anything?

Potatoeman wrote: »

So you like a girl in a burqa.

Not going to lie, think they're symbols of a horrible worldview and very often used as tools of oppression, but yeah, I can see the sexy side.

CFlat wrote: »

I use to go out with a girl who wouldn't see me anytime unless she had her make up on. I think she use to get into bed with it on, wait till I was asleep and then take it off. I'd like to say she was really attractive without make-up but I wouldn't know. Her mother was exactly the same. Wouldn't be seen without make-up on.

Let me be quite clear, I didn't date her mother.

But how can you be certain, though?
Given that most men posting on the thread see make up as a form of seemless disguise that has them utterly befuddled, how can you be certain there wasn't an old "switcheroo"?

Candie wrote: »

It's the mystery.

Quite a lot of women who wear the hijab wear a decent amount of makeup as well

Keane2baMused wrote: »

Why can't people stop giving a single sh1t what other people do?

If they roll in makeup, fine if it makes them happy. Likewise if they wear none at all. Same if a man goes clean shaven or rocks a hipster beard and pony tail.

Nobody can win because someone will always be 'offended' or think they look ridiculous.

Trying too hard, not trying enough.Too much makeup, not enough, wearing just the right amount but doesn't it seem like she's trying to look like she has no make up on...? I mean cmon!!

I've read plenty about people hating on hipster beards or the McGregor top knot or certain articles of male clothing, remarkably it generally doesn't turn into a bunch of people saying the poster that doesn't like top knots is bitter and twisted and can't get laid

Its either ok to hate on who ever you likes fashion choices or its not, and make up is a fashion choice, people aren't complaining here about harder to change characteristics like being overweight, bald, short etc.

I am sort of mystified by the heartfelt defense of this trend though (and ridiculous make-up and fake arses are definitely on trend), like isn't it socializing young women to the idea that they have to look false to look good?

ps one trend I do like is that grey dyed hair (which I know is fake as hell!)

Candie wrote: »

I think it's definitely a bit more personal sometimes when it's directed at women themselves and all that's wrong with them, not the trend.

I'd never defend the very made up look because I don't either like it or use it myself, and I think you're right, it sets up an expectation that a girl isn't making enough effort, unless that effort is obvious and way over the top. I think it'll just die off though, and a more natural look will be the next trend.

It has got to the point where three kinds of blush, four colors of shadow and several kinds of eyebrow makeup is fairly normal, and obviously that's an unreasonable perception of normal, so that's why I think this current ultra made up trend won't last.

But that particular "trend" is generally just about creativity and colour and technique and all the other fun stuff that make up entails, its not necessarily about a girl trying to look like a better version of herself or deceiving people into thinking she's beautiful. My sister is mad into the contouring and my god she looks like a work of art when she has her full face of make up on but she is in no way trying to pretend its natural or that it is what every woman's final form should be, she wears highlighter that shimmers, black eyeliner, purple eyeshadow etc. Shes having fun with her look and the very next day she'll have no make up on and be just as happy in herself. And just as gorgeous.

I wear "natural" make up most days and if anything I would be the more "deceptive" of the two of us because at least with my sisters make up it is entirely obvious that she does not wake up looking like a glistening bronze statue with perfectly arched eyebrows and a bright red lip. I on the other hand, look like I just woke up with clear skin and a peachy glow, when in actual fact I wake up with mild acne and white as a ghost. Also, when I don't wear makeup to work i get asked if I'm sick/tired, but if i wear a full face of make up I'm told i look better without makeup.