The inevitable demise of Lord Ramsey Bolton (Book and TV Show)

Falthyron · 16-05-2016 10:24PM #1

Week in, week out, we are 'treated' to the unstable, unpredictable, and malicious actions of Lord Ramsey Bolton. We have seen him commit torture, decapitation, hunting for sport, rape, patricide, and general evil and twisted stuff.

So, what kind of an end can we dream up for a character that deserves such an end to wipe our memories of the suffering he has inflicted on other characters? What can the show's creators come up with so that he gets his just desserts? Or is it the case that there is nothing conceivably despicable enough to satisfy our bloodlust for his demise? :P

How do you want to see Lord Ramsey Bolton go out?

Personally, an old fashioned hung, drawn, and quartering would suffice!

johnnyskeleton · 16-05-2016 10:30PM

Im sure because of the negative fan reaction to him in the show, GRRM will have a POV chapter which shows how disturbed he is by all the torture but feels he needs to do so to impress his father. Deep in his soul he is a troubled poet who longs for a peaceful existence but has had to torture people.out of necessity. In the end we will see him becoming the septon of Baelors Sept and giving sagely counsel to one and all, while living to be a hundred

Falthyron · 16-05-2016 10:36PM

Paddy Cow · 16-05-2016 11:46PM

Hopefully Ghost will rip him to shreds. A fitting end considering how many he fed to his hounds.

Zaph · 17-05-2016 12:00AM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Hopefully Ghost will rip him to shreds. A fitting end considering how many he fed to his hounds.

I think this or Sansa sticking something sharp and pointy into him are the two most obvious endings for Ramsay. Which means that neither will happen and he'll end up being barbecued by one of Dany's dragons or something equally improbable.

wp_rathead · 17-05-2016 12:13AM

Zaph wrote: »

I think this or Sansa sticking something sharp and pointy into him are the two most obvious endings for Ramsay. Which means that neither will happen and he'll end up being barbecued by one of Dany's dragons or something equally improbable.

I want Theon to kill "that horn blowing coont"

Hazys · 17-05-2016 02:51AM

Falthyron wrote: »

Week in, week out, we are 'treated' to the unstable, unpredictable, and malicious actions of Lord Ramsey Bolton. We have seen him commit torture, decapitation, hunting for sport, rape, patricide, and general evil and twisted stuff.

What show are you watching?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9jDdLG7ZSI

Ben Gadot · 17-05-2016 05:05AM

Demise of Rambo Bolton? You've been watching the wrong show op.

Wilier than Littlefinger.

Harder than the Ironborn.

Master tactician as opposed to the cluelessness of Stannis.

Achieved his ascendancy to a true born title with ease while Jon froze his bollox off doing nothing.

Ramsay is the man to defeat the WW. All he needs are 20......no, 10! 10 southron men.

klose · 17-05-2016 08:31AM

Being skinned alive on camera would be a fitting death for the show, gruesomely gorey and shocking to the audience.

JustShon · 17-05-2016 08:41AM

klose wrote: »

Being skinned alive on camera would be a fitting death for the show, gruesomely gorey and shocking to the audience.

Especially if it's done by the wildlings. I can picture him just thinking back to Osha asking him "Do you eat them afterwards?"

"... then I've seen worse."

Not that they'd actually eat him but that's what most people from Westeros expect to happen if you're captured then killed by wildlings.

DeadHand · 17-05-2016 08:54AM

JustShon wrote: »

Not that they'd actually eat him but that's what most people from Westeros expect to happen if you're captured then killed by wildlings.

Not a wholly irrational expectation since at least one wildling faction, the Thenns, are openly cannibalistic.

JustShon · 17-05-2016 08:59AM

DeadHand wrote: »

Not a wholly irrational expectation since at least one wildling faction, the Thenns, are openly cannibalistic.

True, which would just make it more awesome to see Ramsey being captured by the wildlings and him sh1tting himself as he remembers what Osha says and thinks he's about to be eaten.

I could see Thormund pretending they're going to eat him alive or something just to fcuk with him too. It fits Thormund's sense of humour.

razorblunt · 17-05-2016 09:27AM

In true TV fashion, they never get the death they deserve. Impaled on a spike, cut throat or fall from a height are the ways I reckon he'll probably go.

If I had my way, I'd have a reborn Theon "get medieval" on him or cornered by Ghost and decimated.

It would be all kinds of awesome if they went down the route of Vikings though and had an outlandish death for him.

Son0vagun · 17-05-2016 10:08AM

I wanna see a one on one sword fight between the two Bastards, one were Jon totally dominates Ramsey, plays with him and shows how pathetic and little Ramsey is.

I don't think it will be Sansa who kills him, she has a Giant to slay back at Winterfell.

alchemist33 · 17-05-2016 10:59AM

There are numerous cruel medieval execution methods which would be appropriate, given his behaviour, and I think this one would just fit the bill.

JustShon · 17-05-2016 11:02AM

"Hey Melissandre, if I kill this fcuker will you bring him back so I can kill him again?"

Definitely not going to happen but it makes for a nice daydream.

the_barfly1 · 17-05-2016 01:14PM

Doesn't GRRM like the borrow from history? As recently as the late 1800's, certain Fijian tribes used to dismember stranded/lost/shipwrecked people piece by piece, cook their limbs, and eat the body parts in front of the victim once he/she had regained consciousness. Would be a chilling but amazing scene to see Jon hand Ramsay over to the Thenns after defeating him in battle, and fitting given Osha's words in the latest eposode.

intheclouds · 17-05-2016 01:42PM

The two main questions here are Who and How?

While I relish as much as anyone the sight of Jon Snow wielding Longclaw righteously and taking Ramsay out with the ease of a cat playing with a mouse........it just wont be as satisfying as some other ways he can go.

He really isnt as depraved as he could be recently, the quick deaths are a bit of a disappointment. Where is the horn blowing, c**k teasing Ramsay of old, send in the pretty ladies and then dismembering Theon at the height of his excitement followed up with him eating a fat sausage right in front of him. Come on now, a knife to the heart for Roose followed by a knife to the throat for Osha? Pathetic.

If they gave him the death he deserves theyd have him raped by wildlings, bits dismembered and eaten, perhaps more raping of the new orifices left from the dismemberment, flaying, burning, brought back whenever he died and then finally, him begging to be killed and just left out in the forest for whatever wants to eat him.

EagererBeaver · 17-05-2016 01:44PM

intheclouds wrote: »

The two main questions here are Who and How?

While I relish as much as anyone the sight of Jon Snow wielding Longclaw righteously and taking Ramsay out with the ease of a cat playing with a mouse........it just wont be as satisfying as some other ways he can go.

He really isnt as depraved as he could be recently, the quick deaths are a bit of a disappointment. Where is the horn blowing, c**k teasing Ramsay of old, send in the pretty ladies and then dismembering Theon at the height of his excitement followed up with him eating a fat sausage right in front of him. Come on now, a knife to the heart for Roose followed by a knife to the throat for Osha? Pathetic.

If they gave him the death he deserves theyd have him raped by wildlings, bits dismembered and eaten, perhaps more raping of the new orifices left from the dismemberment, flaying, burning, brought back whenever he died and then finally, him begging to be killed and just left out in the forest for whatever wants to eat him.

Why does everyone assume Jon beats him one on one in a sword fight? Has Jon ever been shown to be a master swordsman?

Is it because he has Longclaw?

JustShon · 17-05-2016 01:45PM

intheclouds wrote: »

whatever wants to eat him.

It could turn out to be Arya's direwolf

JustShon · 17-05-2016 01:46PM

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Why does everyone assume Jon beats him one on one in a sword fight? Has Jon ever been shown to be a master swordsman?

Is it because he has Longclaw?

Well we're talking about how Ramsey dies, not about how Ramsey kills Jon so of course in these scenarios we're talking about Jon kicking his arse.

intheclouds · 17-05-2016 01:50PM

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Why does everyone assume Jon beats him one on one in a sword fight? Has Jon ever been shown to be a master swordsman?

Is it because he has Longclaw?

Im imagining a death for Ramsay - so yeah, Jon would beat him in that fantasy?

quad_red · 17-05-2016 02:00PM

The smaller grade baddies, like the Thenn chieftain and Karl, have been killed in combat.

But it seems most of the primary bad guys end up being whacked in pretty incongruous ways.

Tywin got shot on the jacks. Roose knifed in the belly unceremoniously. Joffrey poisoned at his wedding. Balon hoofed off a bridge. Stannis killed sitting on his arse under a tree.

Kinda expect Ramsey to slip on blood halfway through flaying someone and break his neck or something.

alchemist33 · 17-05-2016 02:06PM

quad_red wrote: »

The smaller grade baddies, like the Thenn chieftain and Karl, have been killed in combat.

But it seems most of the primary bad guys end up being whacked in pretty incongruous ways.

Tywin got shot on the jacks. Roose knifed in the belly unceremoniously. Joffrey poisoned at his wedding. Balon hoofed off a bridge. Stannis killed sitting on his arse under a tree.

Kinda expect Ramsey to slip on blood halfway through flaying someone and break his neck or something.

Or die of really bad flatulence.

JustShon · 17-05-2016 02:08PM

alchemist33 wrote: »

Or die of really bad flatulence.

Choke to death while eating a sausage.

Incidentally that was my first thought when Joffrey started coughing etc. "Holy sh1t he's choking to death, what a hilariously ignominious way to die."

Sleepy · 17-05-2016 02:10PM

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Why does everyone assume Jon beats him one on one in a sword fight? Has Jon ever been shown to be a master swordsman?

Is it because he has Longclaw?

He's been raised to the sword as was pointed out to him (Was it by Tyrion in the show? It was Donal Noye in the books) when he first joined the Nights Watch and was battering all around him in the training yard.

Ramsey was only taken in by Roose when he was already a bit older and, given his other interests, isn't likely to have trained quite so dilligently as Jon.

That said, I don't care how he dies at this stage. I just want him gone, he's a boring, pantomime villain that the writers have built up way too much. Yara would have made mince meat of him during the rescue when he showed up bare chested and begging to be gutted.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 17-05-2016 03:46PM

Any fight Jon's been in he's been shown to be very good, it's been a consistently emphasised aspect of his character since season one.

Like someone said above, if Ramsey follows the pattern established by other characters whose deaths were eagerly awaited, it'll be some quick, unsatisfying, Omar Little style thing (maybe Rickon will get him!).

I'd really like to see him torn down a bit first though, not even physically, just psychologically. Absolutely literally fcuking everything has been coming up Ramsey recently, despite his tactics consistently nearly entirely of 'Right I'll murder my way out of this short term problem and worry about everything else in the world later on'. One difference between him and the other little shíts with absent-Daddy issues (Joffrey, Viserion, Robin) though is that he's not a physical coward, or certainly not to the same extent. If there's to be any consistency he'd have to go down fighting, not cowering because Sansa is threatening him with a sword or something, that'd just be stupid fan service.

JustShon · 17-05-2016 03:50PM

Ruben Fluffy Sandlot wrote: »

it'll be some quick, unsatisfying, Omar Little style thing

Omar

too soon

If there's to be any consistency he'd have to go down fighting, not cowering because Sansa is threatening him with a sword or something, that'd just be stupid fan service.

I agree, I see him going down with a "Go on, do it, you haven't the balls" kind of attitude.

intheclouds · 17-05-2016 03:52PM

Course, if Sansa becomes Wardeness of the North then perhaps she could strip Ramsay of his lands and title and leave him maimed and low born?

JustShon · 17-05-2016 03:55PM

intheclouds wrote: »

Course, if Sansa becomes Wardeness of the North then perhaps she could strip Ramsay of his lands and title and leave him maimed and low born?

Or maybe we could see some of her father in her if he's captured and sentenced to death.

Picture the scene, Brienne offers to execute him for her. Sansa refuses and takes the sword herself: "The one who passes the sentence should swing the sword." or whatever Ned's exact words from Ep. 1 were.

intheclouds · 17-05-2016 03:56PM

JustShon wrote: »

Or maybe we could see some of her father in her if he's captured and sentenced to death.

Picture the scene, Brienne offers to execute him for her. Sansa refuses and takes the sword herself: "The one who passes the sentence should swing the sword." or whatever Ned's exact words from Ep. 1 were.

Nice. Maybe they could do it at the same bit of rock Ned did the first guy.

The inevitable demise of Lord Ramsey Bolton (Book and TV Show)

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