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Actually it's all PaulieYifter's fault. He mentioned it first.
Plus it's never too late to reschedule the holidays, or relocate them to Cork.
4 times I've run Cork, 3 of them after an April marathon and 2 of those were Boston. You'll be fine for it - the bigger impact may be trying to train after for an autumn marathon but there's always San Seb end of November 0 -
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PaulieYifter wrote: »4 times I've run Cork, 3 of them after an April marathon and 2 of those were Boston. You'll be fine for it - the bigger impact may be trying to train after for an autumn marathon but there's always San Seb end of November
Ok, we need to ban you from this log!!!!
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Hey D, is your LT pace correct? How is it calculated? Maybe aiming for too fast a time. Also with the weather a little hotter it may be worth scaling back a few seconds per km mile.
Most calculators have my LT at 4:18-4:21 (based on recent 5k PB) so I think 4:25 was already cutting me some slack. Was conscious of the heat being a factor alright. Probably should have opted for 4:30 and lit the aul cigar. 0 -
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I'm doing P&D back-to-back plan (8 week version modified to 7). Last 3 weeks are very similar to the regular marathon plan (although I am modifying a little to reduce mileage. Taper is the same - about two and half weeks. This week is really the first challenging week as it's all been recovery so far, so a little out of touch with the faster pace stuff. Hope it will somehow all come together at the right time. What are your Cork plans, G - down for the weekend? Will you be staying for a few scoops after the race?
D when you scaled back the overall mileage did you scale back the intensity or just the mileage i.e. is the 5m LT session a scale back version or have you just being cutting back the GA runs and the easier stuff. The higher intensity runs are obviously going to be the ones that take more out of you so should be the ones that you reassess first IMHO.
Also based on your 10m PB P&D would suggest that your LT pace should be at least 7:09.....add the fact that you are on a multi-marathon cycle and it was warm I suggest you were always at risk of overcooking at the pace you were aiming at. So as you have already said no reason to waste any time worrying about it. Park it and move on.
Good news on the Heart front.........did you tell him about the cigars 0 -
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D when you scaled back the overall mileage did you scale back the intensity or just the mileage i.e. is the 5m LT session a scale back version or have you just being cutting back the GA runs and the easier stuff. The higher intensity runs are obviously going to be the ones that take more out of you so should be the ones that you reassess first IMHO.
Also based on your 10m PB P&D would suggest that your LT pace should be at least 7:09.....add the fact that you are on a multi-marathon cycle and it was warm I suggest you were always at risk of overcooking at the pace you were aiming at. So as you have already said no reason to waste any time worrying about it. Park it and move on.
Good news on the Heart front.........did you tell him about the cigars
Good point - cutting back on mileage only, and now that I look at schedule again, only slightly (nipping a mile off easy runs here and there as you suspected). It certainly occurred to me this morning that 5 miles was a long tempo run (seems shorter on paper), so made the decision on the fly! I suppose it always feels better if you decide in advance.
Felt LT based on recent 5k (after Ballycotton where I was a little too comfortable anyway) was probably more honest? But absolutely right about the heat, as adrian noted also, should have scaled back regardless of the target.
Move on? But what about the opportunity for navel-gazing? :pac: I'm heading over to facebook for some real narcissism, they'll understand better over there.
Re the cardiologist, I told her about Cork, but not the cigars.0 -
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Certainly was. Never saw the park as busy. Had to laugh at all the traffic jams at the Wellington monument though. Why do Irish drivers all try to get so close to the destination that none of them can get away afterwards? Cars parked on both sides of road, half up on footpath but still blocking road, no room for two way traffic, chaos! Always great to run smugly past the gridlock (on the sliver of path they left us).
Its nuts isn't it?! I had the park practically to myself yesterday morning #lazygits
but similarly I was driving into the car park at Lidl later on, there were 6 cars looking for a space right beside the door, I scooted past them and went the other way, parked my car at the back wall and was going in the door to the shop and 3 of the cars were still there 
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Our local Westwood is the same. A is always giving out about the number of members blocking road and footpath waiting for a space in the (ALWAYS full car park). 100m away there's plenty of on-street parking. You're going to a gym FFS. Walk a few yards.
That's a bit harsh, D. They pay €75 per month for membership and you expect them to exercise outdoors 0 -
Our local Westwood is the same. A is always giving out about the number of members blocking road and footpath waiting for a space in the (ALWAYS full car park). 100m away there's plenty of on-street parking. You're going to a gym FFS. Walk a few yards.
That made me laugh. I HATE running by there, have had a few near misses where drivers have pulled in off the main road and nearly taken the legs off me. Used to bring my kids to swimming lessons there and we'd always park in the car park beside the Dart car park. Single occupant cars always in queue for main car park - young fit looking people who couldn't drag their a$$ an extra few metres to and from their workout. When we came out with wet heads and trekked down the road, I'd normally be muttering rude things under my breath (and sometimes out loud) 0 -
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Thu 19 May
Rest. Pilates class, first in a few weeks. Regular instructor was away and the replacement had a different approach, which I liked. Slower and more controlled. Enjoyed this.
Fri 20 May
Spent the day at an event in TCD (no time to check out the grass track unfortunately). Got no run in at all as the evening was taken up by a child safety awareness thing in advance of the Albert College junior parkrun. Really interesting evening, that ultimately gives a better appreciation of the good work done by thousands of coaches and volunteers out there running clubs in the best interests of both kids and adults (and how difficult it can be to keep kids motivated and interested in staying with their sport into adulthood). No time for today's scheduled 6k, unfortunately.
Sat 21 May
St. Anne's parkrun - joining the 50 Club.
I entitled my strava activity for this, "How not to race 5k", with the comment "So that's what it feels like to blow up".
This was my 50th parkrun and, with the plan encouraging a tune up race, I gave it a lash. As is voguish on boards at the moment, I didn't look at the watch at all. Lined up at fairly close to the front and got a great start with no congestion. No idea of the pace of course, and ended up going out way too fast (although I didn't realise this at the time, with no data to work with).:p
Died a slow death on the hill towards the end of the first lap, feeling bunched by the halfway point where I got the first piece of feedback with the time called at 10:30. This was a bit better than I felt at this point, and I spent the entire second lap being passed by people who know how to pace themselves better. The dry retches started early, in the 4th km, forcing me to slow even more. Nearly walked at the start of the fifth, before recovering slightly (on the same hill where I blew up earlier, ironically). Tottered over the line, surprised in the end that I managed to stay under 22 mins.
Splits (km): 3:55 4:11 4:53 4:21 4:36
Splits (mi): 6:16 7:37 7:32 (0:31)
Time 21:56
41st place. 1st M55, Age Grade 69.9%, VDOT 44.7.
Target: sub-21
Verdict: Start slower next time.
Total with warmup 6.5k (4m). Thanks as always to today's volunteers, who included FBOT and KennyG looking in real marathon shape at the moment. Many thanks to Mrs. KennyG for the celebratory slice of pie, which went down faster than my run anyway.
WTD: 29k (18m)
MTD: 187 (116)
YTD: 1,278 (794)0 -
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Thu 19 May
Rest. Pilates class, first in a few weeks. Regular instructor was away and the replacement had a different approach, which I liked. Slower and more controlled. Enjoyed this.
Fri 20 May
Spent the day at an event in TCD (no time to check out the grass track unfortunately). Got no run in at all as the evening was taken up by a child safety awareness thing in advance of the Albert College junior parkrun. Really interesting evening, that ultimately gives a better appreciation of the good work done by thousands of coaches and volunteers out there running clubs in the best interests of both kids and adults (and how difficult it can be to keep kids motivated and interested in staying with their sport into adulthood). No time for today's scheduled 6k, unfortunately.
Sat 21 May
St. Anne's parkrun - joining the 50 Club.
I entitled my strava activity for this, "How not to race 5k", with the comment "So that's what it feels like to blow up".
This was my 50th parkrun and, with the plan encouraging a tune up race, I gave it a lash. As is voguish on boards at the moment, I didn't look at the watch at all. Lined up at fairly close to the front and got a great start with no congestion. No idea of the pace of course, and ended up going out way too fast (although I didn't realise this at the time, with no data to work with).:p
Died a slow death on the hill towards the end of the first lap, feeling bunched by the halfway point where I got the first piece of feedback with the time called at 10:30. This was a bit better than I felt at this point, and I spent the entire second lap being passed by people who know how to pace themselves better. The dry retches started early, in the 4th km, forcing me to slow even more. Nearly walked at the start of the fifth, before recovering slightly (on the same hill where I blew up earlier, ironically). Tottered over the line, surprised in the end that I managed to stay under 22 mins.
Splits (km): 3:55 4:11 4:53 4:21 4:36
Splits (mi): 6:16 7:37 7:32 (0:31)
Time 21:56
41st place. 1st M55, Age Grade 69.9%, VDOT 44.7.
Target: sub-21
Verdict: Start slower next time.
Total with warmup 6.5k (4m). Thanks as always to today's volunteers, who included FBOT and KennyG looking in real marathon shape at the moment. Many thanks to Mrs. KennyG for the celebratory slice of pie, which went down faster than my run anyway.
WTD: 29k (18m)
MTD: 187 (116)
YTD: 1,278 (794)
Nice going on the auld lad category 1st place.
What the hell is an age grade %?
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ThebitterLemon wrote: »Nice going on the auld lad category 1st place.
What the hell is an age grade %?
TbL
To be fair there were only a dozen or so of us in the category (a few more than usual, I think, but it's not particularly competitive!
Age Grade is the world record for your age divided by your time. If you run the world record you get 100%. I use this calculator. parkrun use a slightly different dataset to arrive at their own result, which is generally a tiny bit higher. It's a way for us aul lads to pretend we're a bit more competitive than we really are, according to some. :rolleyes:
Thanks for passing up the opportunity to point out that I'm getting slower while you're getting faster, by the way! 0 -
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