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Milk Price- Please read Mod note in post #1

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  • #7382
    blackdog1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭blackdog1


    Milked out wrote:
    P for April came in at 3.28 first time in 7 years p was below base price for a full month. Of all the years it comes in the one with one of the lowest m8lk prices then.


    April was a disaster for solids for most people. I'll be feeding silage for another week I'd say grass growth wasn't there yet. Only thing saving me is I'm winter milk and this is keeping my solids up. Hitting 3.54 p and 3.9f at the moment. April I did 3.43 and 4.0 f but I'm down 3 litres a cow on last year. Longest Winter/spring in memory.


  • #7383
    Farmer Ed
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,617 ✭✭✭Farmer Ed


    http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/irish-dairy-farmers-paid-third-lowest-milk-price-in-europe/


  • #7384
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,796 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/irish-dairy-farmers-paid-third-lowest-milk-price-in-europe/
    Think I will move to Cyprus


  • #7385
    WheatenBriar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,170 ✭✭✭WheatenBriar


    An even bigger price drop must be on the way..

    https://www.glanbiaconnect.com/news/gii-offer-free-heart-health-checks


  • #7386
    Farmer Ed
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,617 ✭✭✭Farmer Ed


    WheatenBriar wrote: »
    An even bigger price drop must be on the way..

    https://www.glanbiaconnect.com/news/gii-offer-free-heart-health-checks
    I

    If.it drops.much more you'd want a great heart to put up with it.


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  • #7387
    MANSFIELD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭MANSFIELD


    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    I

    If.it drops.much more you'd want a great heart to put up with it.


    If it drops much more ,you would have to ask yourself is it worth staying milking cows .


  • #7388
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,796 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    MANSFIELD wrote: »
    If it drops much more ,you would have to ask yourself is it worth staying milking cows .

    What's the alternative


  • #7389
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    whelan2 wrote: »
    What's the alternative

    Tillage!!

    :):)


    Edit.
    Snails?
    I payed €22 for 6 escargots over the weekend. Someone must be making a margin...


  • #7390
    darragh_haven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭darragh_haven


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Tillage!!

    :):)


    Edit.
    Snails?
    I payed €22 for 6 escargots over the weekend. Someone must be making a margin...

    France consumes 23,000 ton of snails per year. There is a girl on twitter atm growing snail in meath for the french market


  • #7391
    kowtow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    darragh_haven wrote: »
    France consumes 23,000 ton of snails per year. There is a girl on twitter atm growing snail in meath for the french market

    What have I been telling you all?

    Slow Food is very hip.

    #aheadofthecurve


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  • #7392
    RightTurnClyde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭RightTurnClyde


    darragh_haven wrote: »
    France consumes 23,000 ton of snails per year. There is a girl on twitter atm growing snail in meath for the french market

    Do you "grow snails" or "rear snails" ??


  • #7393
    darragh_haven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭darragh_haven


    RightTurnClyde wrote: »
    Do you "grow snails" or "rear snails" ??

    Havent a scooby doo.


  • #7394
    kowtow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    WheatenBriar wrote: »
    An even bigger price drop must be on the way..

    https://www.glanbiaconnect.com/news/gii-offer-free-heart-health-checks

    When I read articles like that I can't help hearing the booming voice of a New York Jewish banker friend of mine shouting:

    "Will you stop frigging around the f**cking edges and pay for the f**cking milk already???!!"


  • #7395
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,259 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Quite shocking that farmers in Poland are paid 3 cent more than us.


  • #7396
    darragh_haven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭darragh_haven


    Water John wrote: »
    Quite shocking that farmers in Poland are paid 3 cent more than us.

    Why? Are we better than them for some reason?


  • #7397
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,259 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Would not think so for a minute. Very good friends with a number of polish people. I hold them in high esteem.

    I would expect Eastern European countries to be still behind us in terms of price for raw produce. Still developing after communism.

    The prime point, not to be missed and to be repeated ad nauseum is that we the Irish farmer is on the hind tit. Keep asking the question, why?


  • #7398
    Farmer Ed
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,617 ✭✭✭Farmer Ed


    darragh_haven wrote: »
    Why? Are we better than them for some reason?

    No but I'd imagine the cost of living would be a lot less in Poland than here. The average industrial wage would typically be a lot less in Poland. It's All relative.


  • #7399
    mf240
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭mf240


    RightTurnClyde wrote: »
    Do you "grow snails" or "rear snails" ??

    Its a very slow market.!


  • #7400
    Waffletraktor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Waffletraktor


    Would it not be a large domestic market?
    Or is the ifa dairygold board to blame for that as well


  • #7401
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Water John wrote: »

    I would expect Eastern European countries to be still behind us in terms of price for raw produce. Still developing after communism.

    It's a global market...

    The fact that there's 120 million population between themselves and the Germans may have something to do with it.


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  • #7402
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,259 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Well Waffle, you have the choice of two venues to go to on Thursday. Muck It in Roscrea or the DG AGM in Cork.
    Its hard to say at which one more sh**e will be talked.

    The Boards of some other processors are equally culpable. If the cap fits.

    Sorry Dawgone, you wrote two lines, but their is a basic contradiction between the two.


  • #7403
    Farmer Ed
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,617 ✭✭✭Farmer Ed


    whelan2 wrote: »
    What's the alternative

    I think we all need to dress up in cheap suits and value ourselves a bit more. It seems there is still plenty money in milk for people in suits.


  • #7404
    Waffletraktor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Waffletraktor


    Water John wrote: »
    Well Waffle, you have the choice of two venues to go to on Thursday. Muck It in Roscrea or the DG AGM in Cork.
    Its hard to say at which one more sh**e will be talked.

    The Boards of some other processors are equally culpable. If the cap fits.

    Sorry Dawgone, you wrote two lines, but their is a basic contradiction between the two.
    Nahhh going to a big Niab do about how the fudge we're going to kick cs flea beetles arse this week, being a lazy ara me farmers we need a few days to work up to a big day out in case it's too taxing.


  • #7405
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Water John wrote: »

    Sorry Dawgone, you wrote two lines, but their is a basic contradiction between the two.

    Nope.
    I don't know your preconceived ideas about the former USSR, but whether you're in Warsaw or Wicklow it's the same globally influenced milk market, but as Waffle said local market does have an influence on price. IYKWIM.


  • #7406
    Farmer Ed
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,617 ✭✭✭Farmer Ed


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Nope.
    I don't know your preconceived ideas about the former USSR, but whether you're in Warsaw or Wicklow it's the same globally influenced milk market, but as Waffle said local market does have an influence on price. IYKWIM.

    So is the price of milk decided by the local market or the global market? At the moment it would appear that the farmer in wicklow is 3 cent behind the farmer in Warsaw.

    A lot of the rhetoric about harvest 2020 was our comepedtive advantage. Not much good to us if we can't sell the product for a good price.


  • #7407
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,796 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    So is the price of milk decided by the local market or the global market? At the moment it would appear that the farmer in wicklow is 3 cent behind the farmer in Warsaw.

    A lot of the rhetoric about harvest 2020 was our compedarive advantage. Not much good to us if we can't sell the product for a good price.
    Do we actually know how much the product is being sold for?


  • #7408
    Bullocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Polish painter that does a few jobs for me has a sister milking 65 cows back home ( he sent out a second-hand parlour last year from here )
    He was telling me the last day that only in the last month has prices started to go up since Putin started messing around a while back . Her milk factory is only supplying locally but it still cut price with Russia's embargo . Just like what would happen here really


  • #7409
    browned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 661 ✭✭✭browned


    Are polish farmers seasonal milk producers like in Ireland or Ayr producers?


  • #7410
    Farmer Ed
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,617 ✭✭✭Farmer Ed


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Do we actually know how much the product is being sold for?

    It would be very interesting if we did. Surely processors with a higher volume of Value added products should be able to pay an average price well above world market price. I believe the figures are available as to what percentage of each processors product goes in to what. For some reason I don't know has anyone given a stab at guessing the likely return to each processor based on product mix. All we ever seem to be quoted is world market or Ornua prices. Or even a processor selling a lot of kerrygold butter to Ornua should be able to return a better price than a processor just selling them skim powder.


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  • #7411
    Farmer Ed
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,617 ✭✭✭Farmer Ed


    browned wrote: »
    Are polish farmers seasonal milk producers like in Ireland or Ayr producers?

    If their not spring calving their solids can't be great.


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