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Milk Price- Please read Mod note in post #1

delaval

24/6/16

Recently we saw three posters close their accounts over disagreements in the dairy threads. While there is a lot of frustration and discontent with current milk prices and the processing industry, the recent tendency for dairy threads to become tit-for-tat arguments isn’t tolerable for those not involved.

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I was wondering would it be a help if we posted our milk prices. I would hope that if someone is low that help could be given, on the other hand if high perhaps your tips could help us all.

I would suggest posting your processors base inc Vat for comparison
Post your Nett price for others to help or be helped
I think that solids should be included.
I suggest any seasonal/liquid contract price be excluded or seperated.

I feel that we as farmers do a lot of bitching about processor prices and rightly so IMO. I also feel that we should not worry about it as we can do nothing about base price but we certainly do something about it at farm level.

What do you all think?

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blackdog1

Milked out wrote:

P for April came in at 3.28 first time in 7 years p was below base price for a full month. Of all the years it comes in the one with one of the lowest m8lk prices then.

April was a disaster for solids for most people. I'll be feeding silage for another week I'd say grass growth wasn't there yet. Only thing saving me is I'm winter milk and this is keeping my solids up. Hitting 3.54 p and 3.9f at the moment. April I did 3.43 and 4.0 f but I'm down 3 litres a cow on last year. Longest Winter/spring in memory.

Farmer Ed

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/irish-dairy-farmers-paid-third-lowest-milk-price-in-europe/

whelan2

Farmer Ed wrote: »

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/irish-dairy-farmers-paid-third-lowest-milk-price-in-europe/

Think I will move to Cyprus

WheatenBriar

An even bigger price drop must be on the way..

https://www.glanbiaconnect.com/news/gii-offer-free-heart-health-checks

Farmer Ed

WheatenBriar wrote: »

An even bigger price drop must be on the way..

https://www.glanbiaconnect.com/news/gii-offer-free-heart-health-checks

I

If.it drops.much more you'd want a great heart to put up with it.

MANSFIELD

Farmer Ed wrote: »

I

If.it drops.much more you'd want a great heart to put up with it.

If it drops much more ,you would have to ask yourself is it worth staying milking cows .

whelan2

MANSFIELD wrote: »

If it drops much more ,you would have to ask yourself is it worth staying milking cows .

What's the alternative

Dawggone

whelan2 wrote: »

What's the alternative

Tillage!!

:)

Edit.
Snails?
I payed €22 for 6 escargots over the weekend. Someone must be making a margin...

darragh_haven

Dawggone wrote: »

Tillage!!

:)

Edit.
Snails?
I payed €22 for 6 escargots over the weekend. Someone must be making a margin...

France consumes 23,000 ton of snails per year. There is a girl on twitter atm growing snail in meath for the french market

kowtow

darragh_haven wrote: »

France consumes 23,000 ton of snails per year. There is a girl on twitter atm growing snail in meath for the french market

What have I been telling you all?

Slow Food is very hip.

#aheadofthecurve

RightTurnClyde

darragh_haven wrote: »

France consumes 23,000 ton of snails per year. There is a girl on twitter atm growing snail in meath for the french market

Do you "grow snails" or "rear snails" ??

darragh_haven

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

Do you "grow snails" or "rear snails" ??

Havent a scooby doo.

kowtow

WheatenBriar wrote: »

An even bigger price drop must be on the way..

https://www.glanbiaconnect.com/news/gii-offer-free-heart-health-checks

When I read articles like that I can't help hearing the booming voice of a New York Jewish banker friend of mine shouting:

"Will you stop frigging around the f**cking edges and pay for the f**cking milk already???!!"

Water John

Quite shocking that farmers in Poland are paid 3 cent more than us.

darragh_haven

Water John wrote: »

Quite shocking that farmers in Poland are paid 3 cent more than us.

Why? Are we better than them for some reason?

Water John

Would not think so for a minute. Very good friends with a number of polish people. I hold them in high esteem.

I would expect Eastern European countries to be still behind us in terms of price for raw produce. Still developing after communism.

The prime point, not to be missed and to be repeated ad nauseum is that we the Irish farmer is on the hind tit. Keep asking the question, why?

Farmer Ed

darragh_haven wrote: »

Why? Are we better than them for some reason?

No but I'd imagine the cost of living would be a lot less in Poland than here. The average industrial wage would typically be a lot less in Poland. It's All relative.

mf240

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

Do you "grow snails" or "rear snails" ??

Its a very slow market.!

[Deleted User]

Would it not be a large domestic market?
Or is the ifa dairygold board to blame for that as well

Dawggone

Water John wrote: »

I would expect Eastern European countries to be still behind us in terms of price for raw produce. Still developing after communism.

It's a global market...

The fact that there's 120 million population between themselves and the Germans may have something to do with it.

Water John

Well Waffle, you have the choice of two venues to go to on Thursday. Muck It in Roscrea or the DG AGM in Cork.
Its hard to say at which one more sh**e will be talked.

The Boards of some other processors are equally culpable. If the cap fits.

Sorry Dawgone, you wrote two lines, but their is a basic contradiction between the two.

Farmer Ed

whelan2 wrote: »

What's the alternative

I think we all need to dress up in cheap suits and value ourselves a bit more. It seems there is still plenty money in milk for people in suits.

[Deleted User]

Water John wrote: »

Well Waffle, you have the choice of two venues to go to on Thursday. Muck It in Roscrea or the DG AGM in Cork.
Its hard to say at which one more sh**e will be talked.

The Boards of some other processors are equally culpable. If the cap fits.

Sorry Dawgone, you wrote two lines, but their is a basic contradiction between the two.

Nahhh going to a big Niab do about how the fudge we're going to kick cs flea beetles arse this week, being a lazy ara me farmers we need a few days to work up to a big day out in case it's too taxing.

Dawggone

Water John wrote: »

Sorry Dawgone, you wrote two lines, but their is a basic contradiction between the two.

Nope.
I don't know your preconceived ideas about the former USSR, but whether you're in Warsaw or Wicklow it's the same globally influenced milk market, but as Waffle said local market does have an influence on price. IYKWIM.

Farmer Ed

Dawggone wrote: »

Nope.
I don't know your preconceived ideas about the former USSR, but whether you're in Warsaw or Wicklow it's the same globally influenced milk market, but as Waffle said local market does have an influence on price. IYKWIM.

So is the price of milk decided by the local market or the global market? At the moment it would appear that the farmer in wicklow is 3 cent behind the farmer in Warsaw.

A lot of the rhetoric about harvest 2020 was our comepedtive advantage. Not much good to us if we can't sell the product for a good price.

whelan2

Farmer Ed wrote: »

So is the price of milk decided by the local market or the global market? At the moment it would appear that the farmer in wicklow is 3 cent behind the farmer in Warsaw.

A lot of the rhetoric about harvest 2020 was our compedarive advantage. Not much good to us if we can't sell the product for a good price.

Do we actually know how much the product is being sold for?

Bullocks

Polish painter that does a few jobs for me has a sister milking 65 cows back home ( he sent out a second-hand parlour last year from here )
He was telling me the last day that only in the last month has prices started to go up since Putin started messing around a while back . Her milk factory is only supplying locally but it still cut price with Russia's embargo . Just like what would happen here really

browned

Are polish farmers seasonal milk producers like in Ireland or Ayr producers?

Farmer Ed

whelan2 wrote: »

Do we actually know how much the product is being sold for?

It would be very interesting if we did. Surely processors with a higher volume of Value added products should be able to pay an average price well above world market price. I believe the figures are available as to what percentage of each processors product goes in to what. For some reason I don't know has anyone given a stab at guessing the likely return to each processor based on product mix. All we ever seem to be quoted is world market or Ornua prices. Or even a processor selling a lot of kerrygold butter to Ornua should be able to return a better price than a processor just selling them skim powder.

Farmer Ed

browned wrote: »

Are polish farmers seasonal milk producers like in Ireland or Ayr producers?

If their not spring calving their solids can't be great.