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DublinBust · 06-05-2016 01:25PM

Serephucus wrote: »

DublinBust wrote: »

Do we really need a short hand for indeed?

Absolutely not. I'd love to find the moron who started that and give him a good smack.

NO U r a mrn.

TheSegal · 06-05-2016 01:32PM

Another 4 hours left on Nvidias countdown http://orderof10.com/humanityshallbeenlightened

Hoping that it's an announcement of their new line of graphics cards, sitting on a 7950 for years now and want an upgrade of both GPU and monitor. The x70 line of cards seems to be fairly standard in their release pricing over the years so hopefully this year won't be any different

Serephucus · 06-05-2016 01:34PM

DublinBust wrote: »

NO U r a mrn.

u wt m8

TheSegal wrote: »

Another 4 hours left on Nvidias countdown http://orderof10.com/humanityshallbeenlightened

Hoping that it's an announcement of their new line of graphics cards, sitting on a 7950 for years now and want an upgrade of both GPU and monitor. The x70 line of cards seems to be fairly standard in their release pricing over the years so hopefully this year won't be any different

I dunno. I'd love for it to be Pascal, but I don't think they'd announce it this early. Even if it is announced a bit later, I'd expect a paper launch only. Hopefully I'm wrong.

MarkAnthony · 06-05-2016 01:36PM

I'm not that excited for Pascal I think they're going to be the janky cards of this generation. Can't wait to see what upper end Polaris is going to look like.

Serephucus · 06-05-2016 01:40PM

Yeah it's funny, everyone on other forums is going ape**** that we're (probably) getting a 1080 Ti on the GP104 die, and that it's a rip-off, etc. The fact is though that NVIDIA were always going to do this. A) It lets them milk more money - They're mostly selling high-end, and if they can get two Tis out of an architecture all the better - and

it means they can lengthen the overall cycle time before moving to GP100 for GeForce.

Polaris will be very interesting, as well as Zen. I think we've got a pretty good idea of how things will perform - if rumours are true, etc. - but it'll all come down to pricing.

SterlingArcher · 06-05-2016 01:49PM

Serephucus wrote: »

I dunno. I'd love for it to be Pascal, but I don't think they'd announce it this early. Even if it is announced a bit later, I'd expect a paper launch only. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Battlefield 5 is being announced in similar fashion today. I don't think it's a coincidence.

Pascal 1080/1070.papercut.

DublinBust · 06-05-2016 01:51PM

Serephucus wrote: »

The fact is though that NVIDIA were always going to do this.

Not at all. This is a new level of shrug from nVidia. AMD released a HBM card what, a year ago now? nVidia have been arrogant anti-competitive asses for a while now, hope more and more just to AMD (though its not been a perfect transition for me).

Shlippery · 07-05-2016 05:19AM

Serephucus wrote: »

Yeah it's funny, everyone on other forums is going ape**** that we're (probably) getting a 1080 Ti on the GP104 die, and that it's a rip-off, etc. The fact is though that NVIDIA were always going to do this. A) It lets them milk more money - They're mostly selling high-end, and if they can get two Tis out of an architecture all the better - and it means they can lengthen the overall cycle time before moving to GP100 for GeForce.

Polaris will be very interesting, as well as Zen. I think we've got a pretty good idea of how things will perform - if rumours are true, etc. - but it'll all come down to pricing.

Seema to have been quite the announcement! 1080/1070 Cheaper and more powerful than titan

DublinBust · 07-05-2016 09:48AM

Shlippery wrote: »

Serephucus wrote: »

Yeah it's funny, everyone on other forums is going ape**** that we're (probably) getting a 1080 Ti on the GP104 die, and that it's a rip-off, etc. The fact is though that NVIDIA were always going to do this. A) It lets them milk more money - They're mostly selling high-end, and if they can get two Tis out of an architecture all the better - and it means they can lengthen the overall cycle time before moving to GP100 for GeForce.

Polaris will be very interesting, as well as Zen. I think we've got a pretty good idea of how things will perform - if rumours are true, etc. - but it'll all come down to pricing.

Seema to have been quite the announcement! 1080/1070 Cheaper and more powerful than titan

That's kind of how it should work...

.G. · 07-05-2016 10:20AM

So is one 1080 going to be capable of running the 40" 4K monitors out there and high frame rates with all eye candy on?

Serephucus · 07-05-2016 10:24AM

I'm very interested to see how the performance scales with this thing. We have less texture units than the 980, but about the same number of CUDA cores, and a stupidly higher clock speed. On top of that, it's got butt-tonnes of RAM.

So I'm wondering: Will it do better at 4K, or 1080/1440 at higher framerates (VR)?

Pricing is a bit annoying though. $50 higher on both cards than their predecessors.

DublinBust · 07-05-2016 10:39AM

Serephucus wrote: »

Pricing is a bit annoying though. $50 higher on both cards than their predecessors.

Are they? Even the 1070? People are saying that card is very decent value.

Serephucus · 07-05-2016 10:41AM

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-official-msrp-299-nonreference-models-retail-329349/

Yup.

That's what I mean, you look at it and go "Wow! Pascal for $350!" But it's NVIDIA's price creeping as usual.

AlmightyCushion · 07-05-2016 10:44AM

DublinBust wrote: »

Are they? Even the 1070? People are saying that card is very decent value.

I haven't seen much on the cards but I did read some of the comments on the AnandTech article and most of them were of the opinion that the 1070 is pretty poor value and that the difference in performance between it and the 1080 is too much for the difference in price.

SickBoy · 07-05-2016 10:45AM

superg wrote: »

So is one 1080 going to be capable of running the 40" 4K monitors out there and high frame rates with all eye candy on?

The monitor size doesn't matter, it could be a 14" 4k screen and it would need the same horse power to drive the same frame rate.

ED E · 07-05-2016 11:26AM

Will the impact of the GDDR5X over GDDR5 be significant?

Serephucus · 07-05-2016 11:34AM

Hard to say. Given there's only two points of reference, and one of them is completely different to the other in terms of specs.

SickBoy · 07-05-2016 11:38AM

ED E wrote: »

Will the impact of the GDDR5X over GDDR5 be significant?

According to this article it will be impressive(considering is still a 256 bit bus width) but not significant.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10193/micron-begins-to-sample-gddr5x-memory

DublinBust · 07-05-2016 11:44AM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

DublinBust wrote: »

Are they? Even the 1070? People are saying that card is very decent value.

I haven't seen much on the cards but I did read some of the comments on the AnandTech article and most of them were of the opinion that the 1070 is pretty poor value and that the difference in performance between it and the 1080 is too much for the difference in price.

Bit of an old man/general tech forum that one though. Overclock.net is being pretty positive about the cards and their pricing, citing competition from AMD.

We'll have to wait for proper benches first I guess.

Luck100 · 07-05-2016 02:07PM

I watched the livestream last night. Pascal has new tricks (mainly Simultaneous Multi-Projection) that give it an extra performance boost for VR. So Pascal/Maxwell comparisons will look quite different for VR versus regular games.
http://postimg.org/image/b37kran41/

Serephucus · 07-05-2016 02:30PM

SMP looks really nifty. That stretching is something that made me skip multi-monitor entirely, and wait for VR. I still think I'll go straight to VR, but for people with three-way surround setups, this is going to be pretty massive.

Likewise, SMP for VR looks really cool. From what Jen-Hsun was saying at the event though, it sounds like this has to be supported in-game, and isn't something that can be retroactively enabled through a driver, so existing games might not see a performance boost. (Unless there's something I'm missing)

glynf · 07-05-2016 04:02PM

Even more so the 1080 runs on a single 8 pin. From what I've seen Nvidia are claiming 25% increase on a Titan/980ti? Assuming thats on cherrypicked benchmarks, maybe a 'real world' increase of 10-15%? I run surround so Simultaneous Multi-Projection looks excellent, not sure if its enough to justify upgrading from 980ti's. I'm holding off until LG & Samsung release their 2.4:1 and 32:9 monitors before I upgrade again, but like the idea of a 1080 in a mITX case like the Hadron and a 34" plus ultrawide.

jayo26 · 07-05-2016 04:41PM

So price to performance expectations and first impressions is it still worth holding off and not getting a 970 will these be that much of an upgrade?

raze_them_all_ · 07-05-2016 04:53PM

jayo26 wrote: »

So price to performance expectations and first impressions is it still worth holding off and not getting a 970 will these be that much of an upgrade?

yes. hold off.

ED E · 08-05-2016 09:34PM

For any of the NAS heads it looks like the 6 and 8TB drives have finally started to have an impact on pricing for smaller drives, amazon prices for 3TBs have dipped twice this week.

Thor · 08-05-2016 09:58PM

ED E wrote: »

For any of the NAS heads it looks like the 6 and 8TB drives have finally started to have an impact on pricing for smaller drives, amazon prices for 3TBs have dipped twice this week.

Any links.

Not really seeing any good prices compared to last year.

Still shocking money for hard drives.

ED E · 08-05-2016 10:05PM

Amazon. £74 down from a steady 86-90 for the last age. Not much, but hopefully a predictor of whats to come. Considering the price of 960GB SSDs now...

Serephucus · 09-05-2016 03:22PM

ED E wrote: »

Amazon. £74 down from a steady 86-90 for the last age. Not much, but hopefully a predictor of whats to come. Considering the price of 960GB SSDs now...

Pity the 8TB ones haven't dropped any yet. Cheapest I've found is around €320 so far. Not great value in comparison, but I don't have much drive bays left.

twinsen · 09-05-2016 03:24PM

ED E wrote: »

Amazon. £74 down from a steady 86-90 for the last age. Not much, but hopefully a predictor of whats to come. Considering the price of 960GB SSDs now...

I dont see this. Minimum price seems to be 86.

ED E · 09-05-2016 06:06PM

Yeah, it bounces. Use CamelCamelCamel notifications if you want to snatch it while its low.

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