UFC 200 Jones vs Cormier 2

Deadst4r · 27-04-2016 10:27PM

Watching the press conference now, pretty boring but Dana did say there is more fights to come.

Depp · 27-04-2016 10:33PM

riffmongous wrote: »

Who cares how many buys it does??? It's a good card and it's going to be great to watch, if it does a thousand or a billion buys it's not going to affect my enjoyment of it by one iota.

cant argue with that!

AlmightyCushion · 27-04-2016 10:33PM

Deadst4r wrote: »

Watching the press conference now, pretty boring but Dana did say there is more fights to come.

Every McGregor fan now.

so+you're+telling+me+there's+a+chance.jpg

Deadst4r · 27-04-2016 10:35PM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Every McGregor fan now.

:pac::pac:

That wasn't what I was implying, just to be clear.

Dtp1979 · 27-04-2016 10:36PM

finglashoop wrote: »

The fastest growing sport comes from where it was to where it is now.

"

No it comes from joe rogan.

Dtp1979 · 27-04-2016 10:38PM

riffmongous wrote: »

Who cares how many buys it does??? It's a good card and it's going to be great to watch, if it does a thousand or a billion buys it's not going to affect my enjoyment of it by one iota.

Stop talking sense

StringerBell · 27-04-2016 10:41PM

In the words of John Kavanagh, "What do you want to see? Press conferences or fights?"

Lots of press conferences are boring by the numbers events, Fury v Wlad 2 press conference today was quite entertaining though to borrow from another combat sport.

martyos121 · 27-04-2016 10:48PM

StringerBell wrote: »

In the words of John Kavanagh, "What do you want to see? Press conferences or fights?"

Lots of press conferences are boring by the numbers events, Fury v Wlad 2 press conference today was quite entertaining though to borrow from another combat sport.

That "fat man" bit was the finest bit of showmanship I've ever witnessed at a presser.

"What's the point of practising your job for 40 years if you can't beat a fat man?" says Fury, shirtless with his belly hanging down.

Never see anything like that a UFC presser, you could tell that Nunes didn't mean a word of what she said to Miesha as well, she was all friendly with her last week just grateful for getting the fight, now she has "all the tools" to beat her? Lol, she's about as credible a title challenger as Bethe Correia.

mdwexford · 27-04-2016 11:01PM

RedemptionZ wrote: »

Will this even make 1 mil buys? Can't see the interest tbh. Jones and Cormier both very boring people.

What are you talking about.

Also the only people who should be interested in ppv buys are those who have ppv percentage points.

finglashoop · 28-04-2016 02:25AM

Dtp1979 wrote: »

No it comes from joe rogan.

And the basis for the statement?

lougal88 · 28-04-2016 09:36AM

RedemptionZ wrote: »

gallag wrote: »

And Diaz already beat................

And there was an overwhelmingly positive reaction to Conor Diaz 2...........

Nobody wanted him to defend his belt...........

..............

Not sure if sarcasm or not....
In any case, I think this is now a very strong card from top to bottom.
All 10 fights so far are intriguing, but the "Interim" FW Title fight for me is the fight I cannot wait to see. Can't possibly see how it wont be entertaining.
Also the J-Lau vs The Dream should almost definitely be Fight of the Night.
I think Lauzon has the record for most fight bonuses or at least joint record. Love watching that man fight, it's kill or be killed every time.

RedemptionZ · 28-04-2016 09:48AM

mdwexford wrote: »

What are you talking about.

Also the only people who should be interested in ppv buys are those who have ppv percentage points.

I'm talking about PPV buys. Fairly obvious.

You can be interested in how successful an event will be without having monetary motivations.

StringerBell · 28-04-2016 01:15PM

RedemptionZ wrote: »

I'm talking about PPV buys. Fairly obvious.

You can be interested in how successful an event will be without having monetary motivations.

Why would you really care though since you have no stake in it?

Do you not watch the fights due to an interest in the actual competition?

RedemptionZ · 28-04-2016 03:10PM

StringerBell wrote: »

Why would you really care though since you have no stake in it?

Do you not watch the fights due to an interest in the actual competition?

Just a comment Strings. UFC 100 broke a lot of records, UFC 200 was expected to break that. Maybe it will. No need for any knicker twisting.

StringerBell · 28-04-2016 04:17PM

RedemptionZ wrote: »

Just a comment Strings. UFC 100 broke a lot of records, UFC 200 was expected to break that. Maybe it will. No need for any knicker twisting.

There is no knicker twisting at all, just odd that someone who watches the thing to be entertained would have much interest in that side of things.

It is another by product of McGregor I suppose, he speaks so much about money it has translated into the fans to an extent too.

Lukker- · 28-04-2016 04:42PM

I don't get the big deal about talking about PPV's. It's always been a part of it, even before Conor came around. UFC 100 has the long running record of being the most successful PPV of all time with 1.6m buys. Many people tipped 200 to break 2m and with the way the card is shaping up now it looks like a bit stacked but albeit regular card.

BTW the card was still a major disappointment for me even before they pulled Conor.

Devastator · 28-04-2016 05:09PM

Depp · 28-04-2016 05:25PM

Lukker- wrote: »

BTW the card was still a major disappointment for me even before they pulled Conor.

agree there, looked like they threw in the title fights and ignored the undercard

mdwexford · 28-04-2016 07:51PM

RedemptionZ wrote: »

I'm talking about PPV buys. Fairly obvious.

You can be interested in how successful an event will be without having monetary motivations.

You said you can't see the interest in a Jones Cormier rematch.

It's a fight between two top notch guys, who hate each other and has the added kicker of Jones trying to win the title back.

Anyone who's not interested in this fight has some strange taste in fights.

Depp · 28-04-2016 07:59PM

mdwexford wrote: »

You said you can't see the interest in a Jones Cormier rematch.

It's a fight between two top notch guys, who hate each other and has the added kicker of Jones trying to win the title back.

Anyone who's not interested in this fight has some strange taste in fights.

agreed, a fight fan who doesnt want to see this fight wants his head examined, but alot of buys on conor fights are conor fans not necessarily fight fans, theres far far less people who'd tune in solely because jones and dc are on a card

28-04-2016 08:01PM

mdwexford wrote: »

You said you can't see the interest in a Jones Cormier rematch.

It's a fight between two top notch guys, who hate each other and has the added kicker of Jones trying to win the title back.

Anyone who's not interested in this fight has some strange taste in fights.

wathcu talkin bout WILLIS!!!!

sonofenoch · 28-04-2016 08:31PM

Devastator wrote: »

30k live streamed last nights presser...as opposed to 300k last week

RedemptionZ · 28-04-2016 09:47PM

mdwexford wrote: »

You said you can't see the interest in a Jones Cormier rematch.

It's a fight between two top notch guys, who hate each other and has the added kicker of Jones trying to win the title back.

Anyone who's not interested in this fight has some strange taste in fights.

That was preceded with 'will this make 1 mil buys'. I don't know if the interest is there to make 1 million buys. That does not mean I don't think this fight is interesting. It means I don't think it will attract enough casual fans to get 1 million buys.

Just to repeat that because a lot of people seem to have misinterpreted that: I do not think this is a boring fight. I don't think it's an unbelievably interesting fight, rematches rarely are but it's not boring. I was commenting on whether it will break the 1 mil buys. Maybe it will. Who knows. That's why I was asking other people's opinions.

The fact sonofech sort goes along with my theory of whether it will break 1 mil. People are allowed to be interested in that side of the fight game too.

newbbieb · 28-04-2016 09:57PM

RedemptionZ wrote: »

That was preceded with 'will this make 1 mil buys'. I don't know if the interest is there to make 1 million buys. That does not mean I don't think this fight is interesting. It means I don't think it will attract enough casual fans to get 1 million buys.

Just to repeat that because a lot of people seem to have misinterpreted that: I do not think this is a boring fight. I don't think it's an unbelievably interesting fight, rematches rarely are but it's not boring. I was commenting on whether it will break the 1 mil buys. Maybe it will. Who knows. That's why I was asking other people's opinions.

The fact sonofech sort goes along with my theory of whether it will break 1 mil. People are allowed to be interested in that side of the fight game too.

Its a well stacked card so it might do a million and with enough and the right promotion it could still do,but for me 198 and 199 have just got more going on.

Jones/Cormier while interesting fight i would have far more of an interest in seeing Jones deal with Rumble coming at him,the Jones we seen Sat night would have got obliterated by Rumble.

mdwexford · 28-04-2016 10:47PM

RedemptionZ wrote: »

That was preceded with 'will this make 1 mil buys'. I don't know if the interest is there to make 1 million buys. That does not mean I don't think this fight is interesting. It means I don't think it will attract enough casual fans to get 1 million buys.

Just to repeat that because a lot of people seem to have misinterpreted that: I do not think this is a boring fight. I don't think it's an unbelievably interesting fight, rematches rarely are but it's not boring. I was commenting on whether it will break the 1 mil buys. Maybe it will. Who knows. That's why I was asking other people's opinions.

The fact sonofech sort goes along with my theory of whether it will break 1 mil. People are allowed to be interested in that side of the fight game too.

I see.

Be more careful in future or I shall choke you out. :pac:

RedemptionZ · 28-04-2016 11:38PM

mdwexford wrote: »

I see.

Be more careful in future or I shall choke you out. :pac:

I'll roundhouse your ass!!

TimRiggins · 29-04-2016 02:26PM

Lukker- wrote: »

I don't get the big deal about talking about PPV's. It's always been a part of it, even before Conor came around. UFC 100 has the long running record of being the most successful PPV of all time with 1.6m buys. Many people tipped 200 to break 2m and with the way the card is shaping up now it looks like a bit stacked but albeit regular card.

BTW the card was still a major disappointment for me even before they pulled Conor.

Depp wrote: »

agree there, looked like they threw in the title fights and ignored the undercard

So a main card of

DC/Jones
Tate/Nunes
Aldo/Edgar
Cain/Brown
Hendricks/Gastelum

is now underwhelming? Really? It's probably the best UFC main card of all time on paper. Don't know what people were expecting for this, but the expectations were way to high.

And as for ignoring the undercard, they have Zingano/Pena, Mousasi/Brunson, Sanchez/Lauzon plus Sage too. Nearly every fight on the card would be a respectable Fight Night headliner.

lougal88 · 29-04-2016 07:02PM

TimRiggins wrote: »

So a main card of

DC/Jones
Tate/Nunes
Aldo/Edgar
Cain/Brown
Hendricks/Gastelum

is now underwhelming? Really? It's probably the best UFC main card of all time on paper. Don't know what people were expecting for this, but the expectations were way to high.

And as for ignoring the undercard, they have Zingano/Pena, Mousasi/Brunson, Sanchez/Lauzon plus Sage too. Nearly every fight on the card would be a respectable Fight Night headliner.

You forgot about Gomi v Miller.
Another great fight IMO.
Both past their prime of course but a fun fight for fans of the old school.

Depp · 29-04-2016 09:45PM

TimRiggins wrote: »

So a main card of

DC/Jones
Tate/Nunes
Aldo/Edgar
Cain/Brown
Hendricks/Gastelum

is now underwhelming? Really? It's probably the best UFC main card of all time on paper. Don't know what people were expecting for this, but the expectations were way to high.

And as for ignoring the undercard, they have Zingano/Pena, Mousasi/Brunson, Sanchez/Lauzon plus Sage too. Nearly every fight on the card would be a respectable Fight Night headliner.

Im not saying its a bad card im just saying 198 and 199 are far better cards in terms of fights i wanna see

Utopia Parkway · 30-04-2016 01:10AM

mdwexford wrote: »

You said you can't see the interest in a Jones Cormier rematch.

It's a fight between two top notch guys, who hate each other and has the added kicker of Jones trying to win the title back.

Anyone who's not interested in this fight has some strange taste in fights.

They really dislike each other yes but Jones won the first fight very convincingly. Nobody was calling for a rematch after the first fight and I think the feeling is the second fight will go the same way unless Jones hasn't knocked off the ring rust.

UFC 200 Jones vs Cormier 2

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