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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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  • #2882
    Joeseph Balls
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls


    Wait, I thought Rb, Gately and F bros were all kinahan crew? I know Gf was childhood friends with Gary Hutch, did they split from the Kinahans after his death or something or why all of a sudden is there talk of them at the regency?


  • #2883
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    poa wrote: »
    Apologies, yes I meant to type Ross not Eddie.

    why would ross be the number 1 target though from what i hear he is just a low level nobody barr would certainly be the big fish to get


  • #2884
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    These GF brothers, do they come from family of old school villians, who ran the toss schools back in the day ?

    Hard to keep up :)


  • #2885
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,913 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    poa wrote: »
    Barr and the New IRA took over from Alan Ryan and the Real IRA. He was part of 6 New IRA that planned the Regency Shooting, and supplied the AK47's. He was closely linked to flatcap.
    Hutch paid Barr to carry out the Regency shooting, Daniel was the number one target.

    But was the hit approved by NIRA at a leadership level is the question. The latest statement would appear to suggest not.


  • #2886
    poa
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 541 ✭✭✭poa


    gangstergossip wrote: »
    why would ross be the number 1 target though from what i hear he is just a low level nobody barr would certainly be the big fish to get

    Gerry Hutch's nephew. Any Hutch close to Gerry is a target for Daniel. Of course Barr and flatcap are priority targets due to the Regency, but Daniel is keen to target any Hutch.


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  • #2887
    poa
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 541 ✭✭✭poa


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    But was the hit approved by NIRA at a leadership level is the question. The latest statement would appear to suggest not.

    Barr was the leadership. Flatcap was his gun for hire, and means to get the NIRA's AK47's down from the North before and returned after. Hutch paid Barr, and Barr hired Flatcap.
    Did Barr sanction it? Yes. Flatcap was a dissident closely connected with Barr, but he had been excluded from the IRA. Barr and the NIRA had looked to take over where Alan Ryan and the RIRA had failed in taxing Dublin drug dealers.


  • #2888
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I love the way everyone is posting here like their news is gospel!

    Funny. It's like old ladies gossiping.


  • #2889
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    bubblypop wrote: »
    I love the way everyone is posting here like their news is gospel!

    Funny. It's like old ladies gossiping.

    i am gangster gossip after all lol


  • #2890
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    one thing i dont get is these aks they found on the IRA man that was printed all over the paper linking the IRA to the regency never came up again i suspect because when the ballistics were done it turned out they werent used in the regency attack


  • #2891
    poa
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 541 ✭✭✭poa


    It will be interesting to see what happens with Jonathan Gill now.
    He had Alan and Vincent Ryan taken care of. But now it looks like his own firm want him taken care of as they suspect him of being an informant. Lucky for him the SDU found an arms stash close to where he signed on for bail or he could be dead now.
    He is operating independently of the Kinahan's, so I wonder would they offer any protection?
    The question is, friend or foe of the Hutch's?
    I suppose the Kinahan v Hutch feud takes heat off his operation as the SDU are tied up monitoring the dissidents/Hutch's/Kinahan's.


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  • #2892
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,913 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    poa wrote: »
    Barr was the leadership. Flatcap was his gun for hire, and means to get the NIRA's AK47's down from the North before and returned after. Hutch paid Barr, and Barr hired Flatcap.
    Did Barr sanction it? Yes. Flatcap was a dissident closely connected with Barr, but he had been excluded from the IRA. Barr and the NIRA had looked to take over where Alan Ryan and the RIRA had failed in taxing Dublin drug dealers.

    Well if that's all true then the Regency hit has clearly massively backfired. If there is no retaliation for Barr then the Kinahans and anyone under their wing will have no fear of the dissos from here on...


  • #2893
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    poa wrote: »
    It will be interesting to see what happens with Jonathan Gill now.
    He had Alan and Vincent Ryan taken care of. But now it looks like his own firm want him taken care of as they suspect him of being an informant. Lucky for him the SDU found an arms stash close to where he signed on for bail or he could be dead now.
    He is operating independently of the Kinahan's, so I wonder would they offer any protection?
    The question is, friend or foe of the Hutch's?
    I suppose the Kinahan v Hutch feud takes heat off his operation as the SDU are tied up monitoring the dissidents/Hutch's/Kinahan's.

    i never heard of his own crew thinking hes an informer but you must have a good source to hear that what i do know is hes been very friendly with paul rice recently and what im hearing is that him and rice are planning to take the northside with the kinahans backing and they will be getting all their drugs from the kinahans


  • #2894
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Well if that's all true then the Regency hit has clearly massively backfired. If there is no retaliation for Barr then the Kinahans and anyone under their wing will have no fear of the dissos from here on...

    from the statement they released today it seems they want no trouble with the kinahans at all and are distancing themselves from the hutches and the regency attack and are blaming the state for tying them to it


  • #2895
    poa
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 541 ✭✭✭poa


    gangstergossip wrote: »
    one thing i dont get is these aks they found on the IRA man that was printed all over the paper linking the IRA to the regency never came up again i suspect because when the ballistics were done it turned out they werent used in the regency attack

    I think the different AK47's were a decoy. Leave the ones used in Dublin, and Flatcap smuggles a second set up to the North. This then takes the heat off the NIRA being linked to the Regency, as they can claim it wasn't their arms used. Barr would have used the NIRA's arms dump for the AK47's, and Flatcap to move them as he was closely linked to Barr. The arms used at the Regency would have been too hot to move from Dublin after. I think its most likely they are still stashed or disposed of there. Usually with hits they are left at the scene clean.


  • #2896
    poa
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 541 ✭✭✭poa


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Well if that's all true then the Regency hit has clearly massively backfired. If there is no retaliation for Barr then the Kinahans and anyone under their wing will have no fear of the dissos from here on...

    Agreed, the Regency has been a massive failure for the Hutch's. Daniel was the target and escaped unharmed. Flatcap was caught moving their AK47's. Barr was killed, so the NIRA lost their leader. So the Hutch's lost a lot of money, arms, and Barr who was their main connection to the dissidents. Daniel then had Barr taken out to prove a point the Kinahan's aren't are capable of taking out top dissidents, so don't fear them.


  • #2897
    JustTheOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    Why would barr be so brave to work behind the bar knowing all the hits been carried out?

    Surely he knew he was a target and would have been keeping a low profile?


  • #2898
    The flying mouse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Well if that's all true then the Regency hit has clearly massively backfired. If there is no retaliation for Barr then the Kinahans and anyone under their wing will have no fear of the dissos from here on...

    Sure the dissos were finished when they never retaliated proper for Alan Ryan death, then the other lad deccy smith was killed then AR brother, and nothing from them,
    I would say this operation was not authorised from leadership in north, but would have been claimed if it had worked the way it was suppose to have, hence the statement from Cira after hotel attack, But it didn't work and now there all in denial saying nothing to do with us etc etc, Would think there is some pressure on monk financially and phycology now, as the dissos will still want to be paid. And the northen lads will be saying what you getting us involved in drug dealing gangs wars for, we have a real war to fight :pac::pac::pac::D


  • #2899
    poa
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 541 ✭✭✭poa


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    Why would barr be so brave to work behind the bar knowing all the hits been carried out?

    Surely he knew he was a target and would have been keeping a low profile?

    He was due in the Special Criminal Court, and under SDU monitoring; so probably thought he was safe from hitmen as a result.


  • #2900
    poa
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 541 ✭✭✭poa


    The flying mouse wrote: »
    Sure the dissos were finished when they never retaliated proper for Alan Ryan death, then the other lad deccy smith was killed then AR brother, and nothing from them,
    I would say this operation was not authorised from leadership in north, but would have been claimed if it had worked the way it was suppose to have, hence the statement from Cira after hotel attack, But it didn't work and now there all in denial saying nothing to do with us etc etc, Would think there is some pressure on monk financially and phycology now, as the dissos will still want to be paid. And the northen lads will be saying what you getting us involved in drug dealing gangs wars for, we have a real war to fight :pac::pac::pac::D

    The reality is that once Alan Ryan was killed there was no one powerful for take over the RIRA, so they were finished. Jonathan Gill had the Taliban at his disposal; and they are suspected of 7 murders. So the RIRA had no one of their capability to hit Gill back.
    His close link to Pascal Kelly meant he had the funds, and the Taliban meant he had the means.
    Barr and the NIRA saw the power vacuum from Alan Ryan and the RIRA gone as a chance to build the power base of the NIRA in Dublin.
    Hutch paying him for a hit on Daniel provided much needed funds for the NIRA's expansion. He would have been paid up front to take out someone of Daniel's status as it was high risk with consequences if it didn't come off.
    The problem Hutch has now, is Barr was his connection to the NIRA and that is gone. The NIRA now don't have a leader, and no one suitable to replace Barr either.
    Daniel wont stop until he has taken out every single member involved with the Regency; and Hutch is powerless without Barr.


  • #2901
    JustTheOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    poa wrote: »
    The reality is that once Alan Ryan was killed there was no one powerful for take over the RIRA, so they were finished. Jonathan Gill had the Taliban at his disposal; and they are suspected of 7 murders. So the RIRA had no one of their capability to hit Gill back.
    His close link to Pascal Kelly meant he had the funds, and the Taliban meant he had the means.
    Barr and the NIRA saw the power vacuum from Alan Ryan and the RIRA gone as a chance to build the power base of the NIRA in Dublin.
    Hutch paying him for a hit on Daniel provided much needed funds for the NIRA's expansion. He would have been paid up front to take out someone of Daniel's status as it was high risk with consequences if it didn't come off.
    The problem Hutch has now, is Barr was his connection to the NIRA and that is gone. The NIRA now don't have a leader, and no one suitable to replace Barr either.
    Daniel wont stop until he has taken out every single member involved with the Regency; and Hutch is powerless without Barr.

    They did hit back at eamon Kelly and a few other things but the gards caught them all red handed in the act.

    Now their all locked up or awaiting trial.

    So strange the gard's can wipe out the dissidents but can't catch one of the drug gangs in the act.


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  • #2902
    JustTheOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    All this talk probably isn't the best idea anyway. As who knows what's the truth.


  • #2903
    poa
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 541 ✭✭✭poa


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    They did hit back at eamon Kelly and a few other things but the gards caught them all red handed in the act.

    Now their all locked up or awaiting trial.

    So strange the gard's can wipe out the dissidents but can't catch one of the drug gangs in the act.

    Strange indeed, as the prominent members of both the Kinahan's/Hutch's/dissidents are all under SDU monitoring full time.
    I have a feeling that it suits the SDU to let the dissidents get wiped out.
    As bad as the Kinahan's/Hutch's are a problem for them, they perceive the dissidents as the main threat; and want rid of them more.
    For example, they had intelligence Gill paid the Taliban to take care of Alan/Vincent Ryan. But they have seemed to have let that go, despite suspecting the Taliban of carrying out 7 murders.
    First the Taliban fled to Derry, but now they have returned to Dublin as they have realised the heat is off them.
    It's as if the SDU want them back in Dublin to clean up the remainder of the dissidents.
    Another thing I suspect, is that the Kinahan's have a mole in the Gardai feeding them information.
    I think given the choice, the SDU would prefer to let the Kinahan's rule Dublin if it means they clean up the Hutch's and dissidents for them.


  • #2904
    poa
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 541 ✭✭✭poa


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    All this talk probably isn't the best idea anyway. As who knows what's the truth.

    Nicola Tallant and Paul Williams apparently.
    Paper never refused ink.


  • #2905
    The flying mouse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    All this talk probably isn't the best idea anyway. As who knows what's the truth.

    Its a discussion board and we are discussing :P Who knows the truth about anything discussed anywhere on boards ? except the people directly involved.

    You get more information here than you will of the media who must honestly be stoned out of there heads with the crap they write.

    We can all have opinions, I mean it is unprecedented in what's happening and what the final outcome will be...


  • #2906
    JustTheOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    The flying mouse wrote: »
    Its a discussion board and we are discussing :P Who knows the truth about anything discussed anywhere on boards ? except the people directly involved.

    You get more information here than you will of the media who must honestly be stoned out of there heads with the crap they write.

    We can all have opinions, I mean it is unprecedented in what's happening and what the final outcome will be...

    I know but there is a lot of allegations flying around.


  • #2907
    DamienDarts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭DamienDarts


    Is there any link for the IRA statement from today?


  • #2908
    The flying mouse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    I know but there is a lot of allegations flying around.





    That's what flying mouse's do, fly allegations around :o:P:pac:


  • #2909
    The flying mouse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Anyway there is more truth being said here than anywhere else, but yes we have to be aware of making allegations, but once again there is more being said here than any of the so called crime journalists n Ireland, It would make you want to put a tin foil hat on...night now.


  • #2910
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    poa wrote: »
    I think given the choice, the SDU would prefer to let the Kinahan's rule Dublin if it means they clean up the Hutch's and dissidents for them.

    Ah yea, cos SDU are mad to do themselves out of a job!!


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  • #2911
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,130 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    There is no way that any venue will support a boxing thing anymore.

    Especially hotels, unless they have to because......


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