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  • 28-04-2016 8:18am
    #1
    kneemos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,419 ✭✭✭✭


    Do I pay my latest water bill or demand my money back.
    Why can't we do anything right .com


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    jimgoose
    Registered Users Posts: 20,176 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    You have to pay it, it's the law. Not paying your water bill would be illegal and morally repugnant and simply not cricket and offensive to wannabe respectable Fine Gael suckholes up and down the land.


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    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users Posts: 28,770 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Given the news reports that IW is to be suspended and probably scrapped down the line, and questions about refunds - whether they'll be issued at all, and if so when? - regardless of whether you agree with the notion of paying for it separately or not, you'd be mad to give them any (more) money at this stage.

    Anyone with direct debits should probably cancel them too until this mess is sorted out IMO


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    Alf Stewart.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,789 ✭✭✭Alf Stewart.


    Paying, or not paying is entirely down to individual choice imo. (I chose to ignore Irish water for entirely personal, and individual reasons) however, this whole debacle is the most shining example of ineptitude from a govt ever.

    Er.... Those that paid won't be refunded, those that didn't pay will be chased for the money they didn't pay.

    Yet in the legislation they legislated, the only means open for chasing non payers was when the bill surpassed €500.

    Yet they capped charges at €260 max, then suspended them.

    Fcukin faucets circus.


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    jimgoose
    Registered Users Posts: 20,176 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Alf Stewart. wrote: »
    Paying, or not paying is entirely down to individual choice imo. (I chose to ignore Irish water for entirely personal, and individual reasons) however, this whole debacle is the most shining example of ineptitude from a govt ever.

    Er.... Those that paid won't be refunded, those that didn't pay will be chased for the money they didn't pay.

    Yet in the legislation they legislated, the only means open for chasing non payers was when the bill surpassed €500.

    Yet they capped charges at €260 max, then suspended them.

    Fcukin faucets circus.

    Even if the chasing vs. capping situation were not thus, they haven't a hope in Hell of cajoling money out of people who don't want to pay at this stage. Not a whelk's chance in a supoernova. Not happening, chief! :pac:


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    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Oh "I love power" Seems to lost the plot today. Threats, Environmental Treason.


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    jimgoose
    Registered Users Posts: 20,176 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Oh "I love power" Seems to lost the plot today. Threats, Environmental Treason.

    There are fewer narkier animals than a Labour minister for the environment that's had his snout suddenly yanked out of the trough.


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    jeamimus
    Registered Users Posts: 157 ✭✭jeamimus


    Don't pay now. FF have created an unholy mess that will take years to sort out, if ever. Meanwhile the long suffering taxpayer, not the actual user, will have to pay for this cock up.


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    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    What you do is apply for your water conservation grant, get €100 and then never pay your bill :)


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    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    jeamimus wrote: »
    Don't pay now. FF have created an unholy mess that will take years to sort out, if ever. Meanwhile the long suffering taxpayer, not the actual user, will have to pay for this cock up.

    Who does not pay tax ?


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    jimgoose
    Registered Users Posts: 20,176 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    smash wrote: »
    What you do is apply for your water conservation grant, get €100 and then never pay your bill :)

    That would involve communicating with Billigi Waterahooraha na hEireann and therefore acknowledging that they exist. :D


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    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    jimgoose wrote: »
    That would involve communicating with Billigi Waterahooraha na hEireann and therefore acknowledging that they exist. :D
    But under legislation they can't take you to court because the debt is under €500. :D


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    Redbishop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,354 ✭✭✭Redbishop


    Just for consideration!
    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/fianna-f%C3%A1il-set-to-support-fine-gael-for-three-budgets-1.2627057


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    Alf Stewart.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,789 ✭✭✭Alf Stewart.


    jeamimus wrote: »
    Don't pay now. FF have created an unholy mess that will take years to sort out, if ever. Meanwhile the long suffering taxpayer, not the actual user, will have to pay for this cock up.

    Fergus O'Dowd disagrees with this.
    A FORMER minister who helped establish Irish Water has criticised the company’s approach to introducing water charges, describing it as “an unmitigated disaster”.

    Ex-junior environment minister Fergus O’Dowd, who developed the legislation which set up the utility, said it had “abjectly failed” in selling its message to consumers.

    That'd be Fergus of Fine Gael by the way.


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    jeamimus
    Registered Users Posts: 157 ✭✭jeamimus


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Who does not pay tax ?


    Water tax protestors.


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    jimgoose
    Registered Users Posts: 20,176 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    smash wrote: »
    But under legislation they can't take you to court because the debt is under €500. :D

    Didn't they pencil themselves power to garnishee wages/SW at source, or something like that, regardless of the amount? Or did I misapprehend?


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    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    jeamimus wrote: »
    Water tax protestors.

    Oh, When was Revenue collecting Water charges ?


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    jimgoose
    Registered Users Posts: 20,176 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    jeamimus wrote: »
    Water tax protestors.

    Yes, in fact I do. A horrific amount. :D


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    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Redbishop wrote: »
    Just for consideration!
    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/fianna-f%C3%A1il-set-to-support-fine-gael-for-three-budgets-1.2627057

    That's cool but our bills are not €500


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    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Didn't they pencil themselves power to garnishee wages/SW at source, or something like that, regardless of the amount? Or did I misapprehend?

    legislation is for €500 and up.


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    jimgoose
    Registered Users Posts: 20,176 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    legislation is for €500 and up.

    Oh. Well, they can definitely go and sing for it! :D


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    stoneill
    Registered Users Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭stoneill


    jeamimus wrote: »
    Water tax protestors.

    After the recent Panama Papers leak you probably find its rich and powerful people who don't pay tax.


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    #23
    jimgoose
    Registered Users Posts: 20,176 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    stoneill wrote: »
    After the recent Panama Papers leak you probably find its rich and powerful people who don't pay tax.

    No, I do. I told you! :D


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    #24
    OfflerCrocGod
    Registered Users Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭OfflerCrocGod


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Who does not pay tax ?
    The middle class will now subsidize people who waste water through reduced after tax income. The only way for you to pay less for water and sewage treatment is to earn less, the cost bears no relation to your usage. How anyone can claim that situation is rational or "fair" is beyond me.


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    #25
    JaMarcusHustle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭JaMarcusHustle


    kneemos wrote:
    Do I pay my latest water bill or demand my money back. Why can't we do anything right .com


    Instead of thinking of it as a lost water charge, think of it as a fine for being the type of person who puts ".com" at the end of sentences.


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    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    OfflerCrocGod wrote: »
    The middle class will now subsidize people who waste water through reduced after tax income. The only way for you to pay less for water and sewage treatment is to earn less, the cost bears no relation to your usage. How anyone can claim that situation is rational or "fair" is beyond me.

    So, That's a no to not paying tax. You a link to these wasting water ? we use half of what they thought. Almost like people are making stuff up.


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    #27
    kenmc
    Registered Users Posts: 7,276 ✭✭✭kenmc


    think I'd rather pay water bill than see that gobsh1te Edna as teeshock a day longer. probably cost less in the long run.


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    #28
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Didn't they pencil themselves power to garnishee wages/SW at source, or something like that, regardless of the amount? Or did I misapprehend?

    Nope. They can't do shit.


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    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users Posts: 28,770 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    kenmc wrote: »
    think I'd rather pay water bill than see that gobsh1te Edna as teeshock a day longer. probably cost less in the long run.

    Don't worry... Enda is only going to be Taoiseach as long as it suits Martin and FF, and he'll be pushed out soon enough by another leadership challenge from Leo/Coveney etc

    That's even better IMO - so incompetent and arrogant that he managed to make FF electable again.


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    #30
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    smash wrote: »
    Nope. They can't do shit.

    They can when your bill gets to €500 and then apply to the courts for an attachment. But not before €500.


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    #31
    Ush1
    Registered Users Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Absolute joke.

    I now have to listen to my lefty numpty mate about how wrong I was to pay and it serves me right.


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