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National Football League Final : Dublin V Kerry

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    STB. wrote: »
    I fixed that for you.

    Dublin scored 2-14 from play.

    No need to fix it and if you're going to do so then include context.
    Flynn gave away a free with a couple of wild, closed fist attempts at a tackle at the end and then continued to goad Sheehan afterward.

    At least try be accurate when attempting to go on the wind up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    It's not that big a deal and if it potentially puts off the opposition I don't see the harm in it.It happens in every single team sport in the world so it's foolish to think it wouldn't or shouldn't happen in the GAA and that we would be more respectful that every other type of sports fan in the world.

    I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one mate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    No need to fix it and if you're going to do so then include context.
    Flynn gave away a free with a couple of wild, closed fist attempts at a tackle at the end and then continued to goad Sheehan afterward.

    At least try be accurate when attempting to go on the wind up

    The context and accuracy is correct.

    There were 3 Kerrymen yellow carded in the last few minutes for their frustration at Dublin keeping the ball.

    The game was over at that stage.

    Sheehan frustrations continued after the final whistle sounded. Bad loser.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭thesultan


    Donaghy needs to be raped to win a free.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Uncle Ben


    thesultan wrote: »
    Donaghy needs to be raped to win a free.

    He did a fair bit of raping himself today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    STB. wrote: »
    The context and accuracy is correct.

    There were 3 Kerrymen yellow carded in the last few minutes for their frustration at Dublin keeping the ball.

    The game was over at that stage.

    Sheehan frustrations continued after the final whistle sounded. Bad loser.

    You didn't provide any context so it cant be accurate and correct.
    And attempting to brush over the booing by partially explaining an on-field incident is just fictitious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    You didn't provide any context so it cant be accurate and correct.
    And attempting to brush over the booing by partially explaining an on-field incident is just fictitious.

    The context is that you cannot see the irony in what you posted and the behaviour of your own players.

    If "Star" concentrated on his football rather than trying to cream players off the ball and throwing tantrums with the ref he might make an average player.

    Sheehan simply let the veil slip fighting after a game, lost by 11 points. He'll be disappointed in himself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    STB. wrote: »
    The context is that you cannot see the irony in what you posted and the behaviour of your own players.

    If "Star" concentrated on his football rather than trying to cream players off the ball and throwing tantrums with the ref he might make an average player.

    Sheehan simply let the veil slip fighting after a game, lost by 11 points. He'll be disappointed in himself.

    Once again- your partial telling of an incident doesn't accurately lend itself to your accusations of irony as you have completely left out the context (a word I'm not sure you fully grasp from how it was used above) and it seemed quite clear that Flynn was goading just before and after the final whistle. But sure don't let the facts, etc stop you from making an argument.

    Donaghy might make an average player? Haha, excellent- he's won a player of the year and performed on the big stage for Kerry regularly so don't let some petty and personal hatred get in the way of the facts. I'd imagine when people look back on his career that he will be viewed as more than average and that is shown by the marking system Dublin regularly apply when he goes inside


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Once again- your partial telling of an incident doesn't accurately lend itself to your accusations of irony as you have completely left out the context (a word I'm not sure you fully grasp from how it was used above) and it seemed quite clear that Flynn was goading just before and after the final whistle. But sure don't let the facts, etc stop you from making an argument.

    Donaghy might make an average player? Haha, excellent- he's won a player of the year and performed on the big stage for Kerry regularly so don't let some petty and personal hatred get in the way of the facts. I'd imagine when people look back on his career that he will be viewed as more than average and that is shown by the marking system Dublin regularly apply when he goes inside

    Jeez your posts are as bad as Sheehan antics after the game. Two of yis at it. :) The context is that you posted about having "respect for your opponents" and yet your own players couldn't do it after the final whistle blew.

    You reckon former all star Paul Flynn was trash talking ? You know this how ? Either way this explains Sheehan's conduct after the game ? Ignore the behaviour and look for an excuse seems your whatabouttery which is fairly pathetic.

    And Donaghy, the incessant trash talker of them all hasn't been a factor in Kerry GAA since 2011. Many thought he had retired :) He spends his time these days whinging to the referee.

    Once Again, Get Over Yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 ✭✭✭PressRun


    It's classless, childish and fairly pathetic.
    A bit of respect should be shown for your opponents- booing frees falls under the same category

    Wasn't even just during the match, it continued when Cluxton was giving his speech. Very poor form from supposed fans.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    STB. wrote: »
    Jeez your posts are as bad as Sheehan antics after the game. Two of yis at it. :)

    You reckon former all star Paul Flynn was trash talking ? You know this how ? Either way this explains Sheehan's conduct after the game ? Ignore the behaviour and look for an excuse seems your whatabouttery which is fairly pathetic.

    And Donaghy, the incessant trash talker of them all hasn't been a factor in Kerry GAA since 2011. Many had thought he had retired :) He spends his time these days whinging to the referee.

    Once Again, Get Over Yourself.

    Ha- whatabouttery? Now thats ironic considering your attempts to gloss over the booing is to question Sheehan at the games end.

    On Donaghy not being a factor since 2011- I can see that I'm not really dealing with someone with a extensive knowledge of recent GAA events here so i'll just post this link:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/2014-gaa-football-all-stars-1.1973162


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭Glenbhoy


    STB. wrote: »
    Jeez your posts are as bad as Sheehan antics after the game. Two of yis at it. :) The context is that you posted about having "respect for your opponents" and yet your own players couldn't do it after the final whistle blew.

    You reckon former all star Paul Flynn was trash talking ? You know this how ? Either way this explains Sheehan's conduct after the game ? Ignore the behaviour and look for an excuse seems your whatabouttery which is fairly pathetic.

    And Donaghy, the incessant trash talker of them all hasn't been a factor in Kerry GAA since 2011. Many thought he had retired :) He spends his time these days whinging to the referee.

    Once Again, Get Over Yourself.

    Pretty important in the 2014 All Ireland win imo, also fairly hand for Austin Stacks in winning Munster club the same year if memory serves me right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Ha- whatabouttery? Now thats ironic considering your attempts to gloss over the booing is to question Sheehan at the games end.

    On Donaghy not being a factor since 2011- I can see that I'm not really dealing with someone with a extensive knowledge of recent GAA events here so i'll just post this link:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/2014-gaa-football-all-stars-1.1973162

    Loved the put down attempts!

    Nah, I have a pretty extensive knowledge of GAA and played at a high level myself.

    I think he played 3 times in 2014, one as a sub, so I wasn't alone. It was Malachy Clerkin in The Irish Times that referred to him as an incessant trash talker, by the way. He confirmed that when he famously roared What do you think of that Joe Brolly on TV.

    He may be a legend in your own town, but he wouldn't get on the Dublin team. :)

    Sure we might see ya's later in the year. Kerry have some work to do though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    STB. wrote: »
    Loved the put down attempts!

    Nah, I have a pretty extensive knowledge of GAA and played at a high level myself.

    I think he played 3 times in 2014, one as a sub, so I wasn't alone.

    He may be a legend in your own town, but he wouldn't get on the Dublin team. :)

    Sure we might see ya's later in the year. Kerry have some work to do though.

    We have a decent bit of work to do alright- good luck for the rest of the year and well done today


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    seligehgit wrote: »
    Pretty surprised if Paul Flynn was trash talking,he is not that sort of player.I'm sure they were both at it,tensions can run a bit high.Not the easiest when you've lost a game by a large margin but one should always be magnanimous in victory and graceful in defeat irrespective of how much it hurts in the immediate aftermath.

    Thats normally the case between Dublin and Kerry. People will hold Flynn to a higher standard because his team won but i'd say they were both at it. Not much in it in truth.

    Even the likes of Donaghy, who is sinner and sinned against in epic proportions, move on when the whistle is blown.


  • Registered Users Posts: 685 ✭✭✭dog_pig


    STB. wrote: »
    Loved the put down attempts!

    Nah, I have a pretty extensive knowledge of GAA and played at a high level myself.

    I think he played 3 times in 2014, one as a sub, so I wasn't alone. It was Malachy Clerkin in The Irish Times that referred to him as an incessant trash talker, by the way. He confirmed that when he famously roared What do you think of that Joe Brolly on TV.

    He may be a legend in your own town, but he wouldn't get on the Dublin team. :)

    Sure we might see ya's later in the year. Kerry have some work to do though.
    We have a decent bit of work to do alright- good luck for the rest of the year and well done today


    Ah ****e, I was hoping the two of ye would keep at it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    dog_pig wrote: »
    Ah ****e, I was hoping the two of ye would keep at it!

    Don't you start!:D

    Its good the rivalry and banter is back in GAA.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    It's classless, childish and fairly pathetic.
    A bit of respect should be shown for your opponents- booing frees falls under the same category

    Funny you should say childish. I couldn't believe the amount of children in the stadium. It was a fiver in for them wasn't it? Anyway, it was mainly a bunch of 10 year olds booing Kerry that people are getting upset over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Donnelley was getting a fair whack of abuse there. Not sure what that was about


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    It's not that big a deal and if it potentially puts off the opposition I don't see the harm in it.It happens in every single team sport in the world so it's foolish to think it wouldn't or shouldn't happen in the GAA and that we would be more respectful that every other type of sports fan in the world.

    It very rarely puts off the player. Actually, in many ways it's a big compliment for a player to be booed by opposing fans! Still don't like it though and have never done it myself. I've said it time and again that I want to see the best of every player on the pitch, my team and the opposition. So why would I want to put somebody off their game??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 ✭✭✭PressRun


    On the Div 2 match, I thought Tyrone looked very impressive. They're as strong as ever in defence, but they have a couple of good options up front now too, and the transition from defence to attack looks quite smooth. They looked built as well. While Cavan certainly didn't disgrace themselves and got some wonderful scores, I always kind of felt like Tyrone had them at an arm's length. They're not doling out any hammerings as such, but they're just doing enough to get along quietly. I'd be wary enough of meeting them in the championship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    PressRun wrote:
    . I'd be wary enough of meeting them in the championship.
    Yep they look handy nearly did the biz on kerry last year and had a super tactical set up. They have one of the top managers in the game and they can set up to beat you with a sting at the end before you can recover, certainly a real division 1 team, the best in ulster this year imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    It very rarely puts off the player. Actually, in many ways it's a big compliment for a player to be booed by opposing fans! Still don't like it though and have never done it myself. I've said it time and again that I want to see the best of every player on the pitch, my team and the opposition. So why would I want to put somebody off their game??


    To help your team win.

    They do similar things in lots of other sports to try and disrupt players.

    I don't do it myself either as I couldn't be bothered but I don't mind it and I don't see the big deal with it.

    The players certainly don't behave in a sporting manner so why should the fans be complete angels as long as they don't cause any direct trouble for anybody else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    munster87 wrote: »
    Yeah, I've always been surprised by the praise he gets. He's a hard worker though, similar to Donncha Walsh for Kerry

    He's won 4 all stars in a row and deservedly so, he's a good deal better than Donncha Walsh.

    He hadn't a great year last year but he's a great player.He was Dublin best player in 2 of their last 3 games last years despite having a down year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    corny wrote: »
    Thats normally the case between Dublin and Kerry. People will hold Flynn to a higher standard because his team won but i'd say they were both at it. Not much in it in truth.

    Even the likes of Donaghy, who is sinner and sinned against in epic proportions, move on when the whistle is blown.


    I'd say Donaghy is absolute nightmare to play against, but in fairness I've never seen him being anything other than gracious in defeat - seems to make a point of finding fellas to shake hands with.


    Just on a side note, anyone who thinks that Dublin supporters invented boohing opposing players wasn't at any of the 70s games! Look at the '77 semi final. Was that Mulllin's ma throwing him the fruit :-)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    He hadn't a great year last year but he's a great player.He was Dublin best player in 2 of their last 3 games last years despite having a down year.


    That's true. He contributed significantly against Kerry in the second half last year Walsh didn't raise his game when needed. Flynn will win a ball in midfield that walsh won't and kick a pass walsh won't see. Walsh is a great support runner and good on quick exchanges he has something flynn hasn't but Flynn has a winners mentality.

    I'll take our poor man's Paul Galvin over many tbh.:)

    Scored a goal today, poor man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    Stoner wrote: »
    That's true. He contributed significantly against Kerry in the second half last year Walsh didn't raise his game when needed. Flynn will win a ball in midfield that walsh won't and kick a pass walsh won't see. Walsh is a great support runner and good on quick exchanges he has something flynn hasn't but Flynn has a winners mentality.

    I'll take our poor man's Paul Galvin over many tbh.:)

    Scored a goal today, poor man.

    When Dublin took over and pushed on in last years all Ireland at the start of the second half Flynn was the main driving force he also did a brilliant defensive job in the first half of the game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,727 ✭✭✭✭Godge


    When Dublin took over and pushed on in last years all Ireland at the start of the second half Flynn was the main driving force he also did a brilliant defensive job in the first half of the game.

    Flynn on song is an unstoppable force of nature. Unlike say Connolly, he maximises the output from his effort when on top of his game.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Well that final yesterday was never a 11 point game. A foolish sending off and error on the opening goal gave the final scoreline a flattering look. For 62 mins it was a close competitive game with Dublin leading by just two points 0-15 to 0-13. Dublin the better team on day no doubt but i think Kerry can take plenty out of the game also as they aim to topple the Dubs this summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,392 ✭✭✭Gael85


    munster87 wrote: »
    Yeah, I've always been surprised by the praise he gets. He's a hard worker though, similar to Donncha Walsh for Kerry

    Flynn is one of our main leaders and man for the big occasion. Played last year through the pain barrier. Scoring 11-67 in 85 championship and league games and 4 All Stars isn't too bad for a hard worker. Galvin or Walsh scoring average be at that level


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