would you consider WWE etc "sport"

esforum wrote: »

Plain and simple, its a soup. No different to Eastenders, etc.

Its scripted, they are acting and everything is fake. After they shout hatred at each other and fight in such a manner that should result in death in every single fight they then go to the same changing room, shower, talk real sport and travel together so they can use the pool lane,

then they go back to work, learn scripts that have been written by professional TV writers, practice entire fights and ACT out scenarios.

Well that just takes the conversation into a whole nother dimension.

Comparing it to say...Oxtail could be considered controversial by some. I myself would have it more along the lines of Potato and Leak, however, minestrone is also a fun soup at times.

None of the above are on sports channels.

Pre-determined, not fake. There's no way in hell a football match has never been rigged either. Do a wrestling match against one of the smaller guys like The Miz and see is it fake lads.

Anyone remember the most electrifing move in sports entertainment?

Mister Vain wrote: »

Anyone remember the most electrifing move in sports entertainment?

Anyone remember 450lb Kamala coming down off the top rope?!

Do WWE even consider themselves sport?

I don't think there's anything wrong with what WWE actually is but I see no reason to suggest they're something that they themselves don't even think they are.

In other words, they're entertainment and happy enough to be.

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Are you trolling?

No, Big daddy did beat those 3 guys on his own. I saw it on dickie Davis world of sport with my own eyes. Are you disputing this?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Ah yes. Shirley beating up Terry and Martin.

It's not Big Daddy's fault what he was christened. You still wouldn't have got into the ring with him for a fair wrestle.

John Wayne's real name was Marion and I bet you wouldn't have tried to belittle him.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

He DID choose the name "Daddy" though. That's a pimp name!

Maybe, but that was before the name "daddy" was dope.

It's not sport because the result is predetermined.

It is however a very dangerous job done by highly trained athletes.

So much debate. I'll just leave this here.... Because when it comes down to it. It's all that matters... for ol' vinny anyways :pac:

WWE doesnt even define itself as a sport its 'Sports Entertainment' so they dont have to deal with athletic commisions, whatever if its scripted I dont get all the hate, Its a bit of craic and it can be entertaining

I guess it's as much a sport as choreographed\synchronized swimming...which the Olympics call a sport. Yip, I'll allow it, I guess.

It isn't a sport and hasn't referred to itself as a sport in years. I don't think calling it a soap is accurate either. It's a weird, crazy thing in its own right. Everyone knows that it is 'fake' but it requires a suspension of disbelief beyond what even a TV show or movie requires. I watched Die Hard yesterday and Bruce Willis didn't have tens of thousands of fans there cheering his every move and booing and hissing at Hans Gruber (although Rickman would totally get cheered by a modern WWE crowd....) When a wrestling match is taking place the guys working have to try to get the crowd invested in their match despite those fans knowing it's not real. This is a huge part of the talent that a successful wrestler will have.

I've gone all over the world watching 'proper' sports. I live and breathe my soccer and NFL teams and have got to watch England in the Ashes in Australia too which was something that I'd wanted to do since I was a kid. But frankly I've seen some absolutely turgid sporting events (and having watched maybe 500 live soccer matches over the last 25 years I've seen more than my fair share of acting and theatrics there) and wouldn't it be nice if some of those events were put on with a dedication to be as entertaining as possible and give as much value for the cost of the ticket as possible rather than sticking one guy up front and trying to steal a 1-0 win?

Two weeks ago I went to Wrestlemania in Dallas at the AT&T stadium. There were 95,000 people there from all over the World and the atmosphere was insane, as it was all weekend at all the other events around town. Someone described fans as being critics which is fair but movie critics don't jump up and down, sing and cheer through movies. People bitch and moan online afterwards but at the time most are swept up in the matches in front of them and desperately want to see their guy win.

It's difficult to describe to anyone who doesn't 'get it' and I used to mock my best mate for watching it so I do understand why some choose to mock.