Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

damienirel · 05-04-2016 12:48PM

PeadarB wrote: »

I finally gave up on eir FTTH as I couldn't stand the frustration of being so near the main FTTH run and not able to avail of it. I've moved back to Vodafone and their Siro FTTH will be available from this month.
I prefer certainty.

Eir are the only hope I actually have - I emailed Siro to see when they'd be rolling out in my area - and they basically said never.

rob808 · 05-04-2016 01:22PM

damienirel wrote: »

Eir are the only hope I actually have - I emailed Siro to see when they'd be rolling out in my area - and they basically said never.

well only if they win state aid with NBP they will rollout FTTH to rural Ireland

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ElNino · 05-04-2016 01:27PM

sibergoth wrote: »

yeah kinda disappointing about Ennis.. I have 90Mbps now, which is very good.. but i crave the 1Gbps !

i've been checking every week now for 8 months or so on the eir.ie availability page and nothing. I know a few people in Ennis got it, but when will it come to my road?! will it be months, years, or just never ??

so much anxiety caused by a lack of communication.. I understand that they don't want to be locked into anything - but a bit more clarity around the plan would be nice.

Siro is vague too.. Town level isn't really good enough info if only some random estates are able to get the service.

I am in the same position in Ennis also. I have given up on Eir FTTH and I was waiting for SIRO to come to Ennis. Interestingly about a month ago I got a flyer in my door offering Virgin Media 360Mb broadband. I wasn't aware that they had cable in Ennis. Anyway I am holding off for the time being as I am happy enough with my 100Mb FTTC for now.

Deagol · 05-04-2016 03:37PM

ElNino wrote: »

I am in the same position in Ennis also. I have given up on Eir FTTH and I was waiting for SIRO to come to Ennis. Interestingly about a month ago I got a flyer in my door offering Virgin Media 360Mb broadband. I wasn't aware that they had cable in Ennis. Anyway I am holding off for the time being as I am happy enough with my 100Mb FTTC for now.

Apparently some parts of Ennis have cable but from looking at the Netflix / Virgin thread I think I'd stay well away from them.

By coincidence I've noticed a lot of KN Networks vans around Ennis the last couple of days...

Johnboy1951 · 05-04-2016 05:27PM

Deagol wrote: »

Apparently some parts of Ennis have cable but from looking at the Netflix / Virgin thread I think I'd stay well away from them.

By coincidence I've noticed a lot of KN Networks vans around Ennis the last couple of days...

Are they not supposed to do the FTTH for the blue-line areas outside Ennis soon?

Deagol · 05-04-2016 05:58PM

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Are they not supposed to do the FTTH for the blue-line areas outside Ennis soon?

No timetables for that yet that I've seen, supposedly to be done by 2021. But having seen the FTTH urban roll outs I wouldn't be holding my breath.

damienirel · 05-04-2016 06:11PM

Deagol wrote: »

No timetables for that yet that I've seen, supposedly to be done by 2021. But having seen the FTTH urban roll outs I wouldn't be holding my breath.

Yeah the whole thing is pretty damn slow and disappointing I see castletroy exchange in limerick isn't down as one of the FTTH exchanges - seems a bit ridiculous.

Johnboy1951 · 05-04-2016 06:34PM

Deagol wrote: »

No timetables for that yet that I've seen, supposedly to be done by 2021. But having seen the FTTH urban roll outs I wouldn't be holding my breath.

http://www.openeir.ie/news/First-rural-FTTH-locations-announced/

Says rural FTTH within the next 12 months.

Ennis to get 430 premises done.
That looks to be roughly the number of premises on the blue-lines.

Deagol · 05-04-2016 06:42PM

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

http://www.openeir.ie/news/First-rural-FTTH-locations-announced/

Says rural FTTH within the next 12 months.

Ennis to get 430 premises done.
That looks to be roughly the number of premises on the blue-lines.

First time I've seen that document. I suspect though that those FTTH houses in Ennis (Rural and Ennis don't exactly go together), are actually 'higher income' houses on outskirts of the town that perhaps Eir see as being a possible revenue stream?

mass_debater · 05-04-2016 06:55PM

Deagol wrote: »

First time I've seen that document. I suspect though that those FTTH houses in Ennis (Rural and Ennis don't exactly go together), are actually 'higher income' houses on outskirts of the town that perhaps Eir see as being a possible revenue stream?

More likely that a manager lives there

Johnboy1951 · 05-04-2016 07:05PM

mass_debater wrote: »

More likely that a manager lives there

I doubt they have enough managers to have one in each of the exchanges listed in that 100,000 number ....... maybe back in the P&T days .......

Praetorian · 05-04-2016 09:08PM

Pretty disappointing how neglected Dublin is in this rollout. Comprehensive rollout's in the likes of Donegal and Galway seems pretty unfair compared to the likes of Counties like Longford, Carlow and Monaghan

In Co Dublin, in my own town 320 houses passed? There are 20,000+ people in Balbriggan.

In Swords 490 houses passed? There are 70,000+ people in Swords.

It's going to take a very, very long time at this pace. The rollout is more about ticking boxes and saying they have a foot print all over the place.

ED E · 05-04-2016 10:24PM

Praetorian wrote: »

Pretty disappointing how neglected Dublin is in this rollout. Comprehensive rollout's in the likes of Donegal and Galway seems pretty unfair compared to the likes of Counties like Longford, Carlow and Monaghan

In Co Dublin, in my own town 320 houses passed? There are 20,000+ people in Balbriggan.

In Swords 490 houses passed? There are 70,000+ people in Swords.

It's going to take a very, very long time at this pace. The rollout is more about ticking boxes and saying they have a foot print all over the place.

Already commercially viable, uptake rates there would be a fraction of what they will be in the targeted areas. OpenEir may be awkward at times, but they aren't braindead. This is being targeted to eat into their 500M debt.

Praetorian · 06-04-2016 10:16AM

ED E wrote: »

Already commercially viable, uptake rates there would be a fraction of what they will be in the targeted areas. OpenEir may be awkward at times, but they aren't braindead. This is being targeted to eat into their 500M debt.

I'd say definitely viable and quite calculated. Just disappointing for a lot of people. Some towns literally have 1 run of cable (well one blue line on a map). It's going to look good in marketing terms.

Does anyone know if there is a plan to run FTTH from the cabinet network at some stage?

Johnboy1951 · 06-04-2016 11:05AM

Praetorian wrote: »

I'd say definitely viable and quite calculated. Just disappointing for a lot of people. Some towns literally have 1 run of cable (well one blue line on a map). It's going to look good in marketing terms.

Does anyone know if there is a plan to run FTTH from the cabinet network at some stage?

My understanding is that there are lots of spare fibre in the cabs and those are to be used for FTTH

ED E · 06-04-2016 11:39AM

Praetorian wrote: »

I'd say definitely viable and quite calculated. Just disappointing for a lot of people. Some towns literally have 1 run of cable (well one blue line on a map). It's going to look good in marketing terms.

Does anyone know if there is a plan to run FTTH from the cabinet network at some stage?

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

My understanding is that there are lots of spare fibre in the cabs and those are to be used for FTTH

Yep, 4 for the cabs MSAN, 20 to be pulled out for other uses including FTTH.

Right now using those dark strands costs a lot and turns a €40/mo VDSL customer into a €50/mo FTTH customer. Where as the rural lad currently on 3G goes from €0 to €50/mo when they connect him up (with a little more effort).

If we want to see FTTH being pushed in Dublin we need to see Virgin starting a large rollout, something they don't really do. Otherwise the VDSL network ain't broke and won't be fixed.

damienirel · 06-04-2016 11:55AM

ED E wrote: »

Yep, 4 for the cabs MSAN, 20 to be pulled out for other uses including FTTH.

Right now using those dark strands costs a lot and turns a €40/mo VDSL customer into a €50/mo FTTH customer. Where as the rural lad currently on 3G goes from €0 to €50/mo when they connect him up (with a little more effort).

If we want to see FTTH being pushed in Dublin we need to see Virgin starting a large rollout, something they don't really do. Otherwise the VDSL network ain't broke and won't be fixed.

On the money ED E! figuratively and literally!

ctlsleh · 07-04-2016 02:40AM

Deagol wrote: »

First time I've seen that document. I suspect though that those FTTH houses in Ennis (Rural and Ennis don't exactly go together), are actually 'higher income' houses on outskirts of the town that perhaps Eir see as being a possible revenue stream?

Ennis folks,
We're all in the same boat. Any idea where these 430 connections will be? It's a very small number in reality, I'm also weekly checking on Eir and Siro websites, but nothing happening......can't see it rolling out to where I am anyhow....too much digging needed...!!

Johnboy1951 · 07-04-2016 10:06AM

ctlsleh wrote: »

Ennis folks,
We're all in the same boat. Any idea where these 430 connections will be? It's a very small number in reality, I'm also weekly checking on Eir and Siro websites, but nothing happening......can't see it rolling out to where I am anyhow....too much digging needed...!!

Not an 'Ennis folk' but had a look at the mapping.

Check the 'blue line' map, and count the houses that the lines pass.

The count might come out at about 430 ...... seemed so to me from a quick check.

Calebmcd · 07-04-2016 10:43AM

I don't know whats going on in Buncrana. But there seems to be plenty of exchanges. But barely any place gets 100mb!

For in my estate, the first row gets 70mb, my row gets 60mb, rest of the estate behind me goes 50, 40 ,30.

Now I actually get 51mb on sync. Got a feeling either its all old wiring in the town or they just need more exchanges. Plus i'm pretty sure they don't have vectoring turned on yet. Plus if there is no LLU on the exchange how does Vodafone get in? Or is llu on on adsl?

Thinking of moving to Letterkenny, at least they have eir and siro doing 1Gb FTTH now. Buncrana is getting 1Gb too, but if they can't successfully supply 100mb to the town, what hope is there to get 1000mb?

Nollog · 07-04-2016 01:10PM

Calebmcd wrote: »

I don't know whats going on in Buncrana. But there seems to be plenty of exchanges. But barely any place gets 100mb!

For in my estate, the first row gets 70mb, my row gets 60mb, rest of the estate behind me goes 50, 40 ,30.

Now I actually get 51mb on sync. Got a feeling either its all old wiring in the town or they just need more exchanges. Plus i'm pretty sure they don't have vectoring turned on yet. Plus if there is no LLU on the exchange how does Vodafone get in? Or is llu on on adsl?

Thinking of moving to Letterkenny, at least they have eir and siro doing 1Gb FTTH now. Buncrana is getting 1Gb too, but if they can't successfully supply 100mb to the town, what hope is there to get 1000mb?

"Unfortunately eir Fibre Extreme is not currently available in your area; we are constantly working on improving our network and expanding our 1000Mb reach."
Open Eir don't like the middle of the town though. I'm hoping Siro are more open to going into a town.

jimmad · 07-04-2016 02:32PM

Calebmcd wrote: »

I don't know whats going on in Buncrana. But there seems to be plenty of exchanges. But barely any place gets 100mb!

For in my estate, the first row gets 70mb, my row gets 60mb, rest of the estate behind me goes 50, 40 ,30.

Now I actually get 51mb on sync. Got a feeling either its all old wiring in the town or they just need more exchanges. Plus i'm pretty sure they don't have vectoring turned on yet. Plus if there is no LLU on the exchange how does Vodafone get in? Or is llu on on adsl?

Thinking of moving to Letterkenny, at least they have eir and siro doing 1Gb FTTH now. Buncrana is getting 1Gb too, but if they can't successfully supply 100mb to the town, what hope is there to get 1000mb?

Only estates on one side of the town has access to the 1Gb, as for live connections I havnt heard of any.

loyatemu · 07-04-2016 05:24PM

if (as they claim) they've run extra fibre to every cab for FTTH deployment, what exactly determines which parts of a particular town can get FTTH? Here in Greystones it seems to be only 2 estates, both well away from the town centre.

babybuilder · 07-04-2016 11:15PM

Calebmcd wrote: »

I don't know whats going on in Buncrana. But there seems to be plenty of exchanges. But barely any place gets 100mb!

For in my estate, the first row gets 70mb, my row gets 60mb, rest of the estate behind me goes 50, 40 ,30.

Now I actually get 51mb on sync. Got a feeling either its all old wiring in the town or they just need more exchanges. Plus i'm pretty sure they don't have vectoring turned on yet. Plus if there is no LLU on the exchange how does Vodafone get in? Or is llu on on adsl?

Thinking of moving to Letterkenny, at least they have eir and siro doing 1Gb FTTH now. Buncrana is getting 1Gb too, but if they can't successfully supply 100mb to the town, what hope is there to get 1000mb?

I'm in Linsfort area and on blue line. Any idea when they are going to start? I asked a Eircom man working on a fibre cabinet in the town and he said to ignore the rollout map as it would be 2020 at the earliest before FTTH was available.

rob808 · 07-04-2016 11:35PM

babybuilder wrote: »

I'm in Linsfort area and on blue line. Any idea when they are going to start? I asked a Eircom man working on a fibre cabinet in the town and he said to ignore the rollout map as it would be 2020 at the earliest before FTTH was available.

He wouldn't know it open Eir that will decide when it rollout to your location.

Gonzo · 07-04-2016 11:39PM

babybuilder wrote: »

I'm in Linsfort area and on blue line. Any idea when they are going to start? I asked a Eircom man working on a fibre cabinet in the town and he said to ignore the rollout map as it would be 2020 at the earliest before FTTH was available.

yeah ignore that. Apart from the odd update from Eir every few months there are no updates to what is happening. Fiber is being worked on in our area as part of the rural blue line scheme yet there are no updates on the maps, on the website or even the line checkers.

Makes me wonder what other areas are being worked on right now, surely with a scheme as big as this, my area isnt' the only one right now? They must have started in other areas as well.

KOR101 · 27-04-2016 08:47PM

Just saw an advertisement in Balbriggan railway station that 1000mb broadband was now available in Balbriggan. Anyone know where? Not at my address yet.

Deagol · 27-04-2016 10:36PM

KOR101 wrote: »

Just saw an advertisement in Balbriggan railway station that 1000mb broadband was now available in Balbriggan. Anyone know where? Not at my address yet.

Wouldn't get too excited, it seems in other towns that it's a very limited rollout. Unless your in a housing estate built in the last 10(?) years and next to a cabinet, I very much doubt you'll get it.

Praetorian · 27-04-2016 10:44PM

KOR101 wrote: »

Just saw an advertisement in Balbriggan railway station that 1000mb broadband was now available in Balbriggan. Anyone know where? Not at my address yet.

I didn't see the advert, was it Eir or Siro / Vodafone?

I checked the online checker for my address and friends houses and none could get it. I tried addresses along the blue lines on the eir web site and also none could get it.

So I really don't know where it is available.

KOR101 · 28-04-2016 01:22PM

Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

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