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M17/M18 - Gort to Tuam [open to traffic]

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    #3992
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,378 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Disappointing to hear about the Tuam bypass. The way it interchanges the current N17 would have made it ideal to open early.


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    #3993
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,146 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    I wonder what the reasoning behind it is.

    With the progress being made, early 2018 seems even a little pessimistic!


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    #3994
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    I wonder what the reasoning behind it is.

    The firms building the road have contracts. If they miss deadlines it costs them money. Maybe if they open the whole thing early, they get a bonus.

    But if there is no bonus in the contract for opening one stretch early, why risk the overall plan?

    If the NRA wanted bits opened early, they should have written the contracts that way - but the NRA don't really care about 1 year of traffic in Tuam - they are thinking National Road network, which is their job.


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    #3995
    m17
    Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    The flyover at the wier road tuam 03/04/16


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    #3996
    m17
    Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    Rathmorrissy 04/04/16


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    #3997
    m17
    Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    Here's what the current n63 at annagh hill will look like once the m17 opens


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    #3998
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,982 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    m17 wrote: »
    Here's what the current n63 at annagh hill will look like once the m17 opens

    That's a footbridge over the N19 in Shannon.


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    #3999
    diarmuid05
    Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭diarmuid05


    Is cartymore road still closed?


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    #4000
    m17
    Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    diarmuid05 wrote: »
    Is cartymore road still closed?

    It is still closed was supposed to open yesterday,I'll let you know when it finally Open's


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    #4001
    m17
    Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    So hear we are nearly 9 years since this forum started 4000 posts and 766,393 views a big thanks to Chris 533976 for starting this forum cheers mate


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    #4002
    wintear
    Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭wintear


    Is it true that a review of the motorway design is taking place due to the flooding?


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    #4003
    m17
    Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    wintear wrote: »
    Is it true that a review of the motorway design is taking place due to the flooding?

    Yes it is around tuam and south galway kilternan to gort


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    #4004
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users Posts: 5,871 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    m17 wrote: »
    So hear we are nearly 9 years since this forum started 4000 posts and 766,393 views a big thanks to Chris 533976 for starting this forum cheers mate

    I'm quite proud of it :D Never thought it would take this long though. Heres hoping we make a million views before it opens.


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    #4005
    m17
    Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    Chris_5339762 wrote: »
    I'm quite proud of it :D Never thought it would take this long though. Heres hoping we make a million views before it opens.

    There's another 20 months to go no problem


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    #4006
    ratracer
    Registered Users Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭ratracer


    Chris_5339762 wrote: »
    I'm quite proud of it :D Never thought it would take this long though. Heres hoping we make a million views before it opens.

    Jeez, I hope the road doesn't take that long to finish.... ;)


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    #4007
    m17
    Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    3rd flyover over m17 is now open at cartymore 05/04/16


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    #4008
    kaizersoze
    Registered Users Posts: 7,042 ✭✭✭kaizersoze


    m17 wrote: »
    3rd flyover over m17 is now open at cartymore 05/04/16

    What's the crack 'Don't walk on footpath joints'?
    We used to play that as kids. :-D


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    #4009
    AugustusMinimus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,547 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    kaizersoze wrote: »
    http://connachttribune.ie/e550-million-motorway-will-not-be-opened-in-sections/

    rathmorrissey-interchange-700x357.jpg

    An absolute monstrosity of a junction, when a completely free flow partially unrolled cloverleaf would have been cheaper.

    The capacity of the network should always supersede the placement of service stations.


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    #4010
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    AugustusMinimus wrote: »
    The capacity of the network should always supersede the placement of service stations.

    They aren't building that service station now.


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    #4011
    AugustusMinimus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,547 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    They aren't building that service station now.

    Nothing less than a fiasco. Building a junction with less capacity which given the earth works involved will cost more.

    Only in Ireland.


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    #4012
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,378 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    They aren't building that service station now.
    The junction was designed with the service area in mind.

    This will be a motorway-motorway interchange. High grade roads should have high grade junctions, not roundabouts.

    The solution to this will end up being the same one which will end up costing over 300 million in retrofits in Cork, 'throw a set of traffic lights on it'.


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    #4013
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    marno21 wrote: »
    The solution to this will end up being the same one which will end up costing over 300 million in retrofits in Cork, 'throw a set of traffic lights on it'.

    In fairness, neither of these roads has enough traffic to justify a motorway in the first place, this is not going to be a congested junction. Unless the traffic queues from Galway stretch this far.


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    #4014
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,378 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    In fairness, neither of these roads has enough traffic to justify a motorway in the first place, this is not going to be a congested junction. Unless the traffic queues from Galway stretch this far.

    Both the N18 and N17 have traffic levels that would require motorway in Ireland on approach to Galway. The issue being that they don't directly replace the existing roads, the M17 could be seen as direct replacement for the R347.

    The construction of the GCOB should make using the M17/M18 handier.


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    #4015
    spacetweek
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,997 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    AugustusMinimus wrote: »
    Nothing less than a fiasco. Building a junction with less capacity which given the earth works involved will cost more.

    Only in Ireland.
    Calm down. Not much capacity is needed and it is your personal opinion that it will cost more, not fact.


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    #4016
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,146 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    AugustusMinimus wrote: »
    Only in Ireland.

    Of course! Sure don't places like Kolkata (Calcutta) build great motorways!


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    #4017
    m17
    Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    The flyover at laraghmore which will open on the 18th of May 2 kms south of annagh hill


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    #4018
    ratracer
    Registered Users Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭ratracer


    @ M17: Do you know when the flyovers at Coldwood and Kiltiernan are due to open? I presume this will give workers on site a lot easier time of it when the route is fully closed to these busy roads.


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    #4019
    glineli
    Registered Users Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭glineli


    ratracer wrote: »
    @ M17: Do you know when the flyovers at Coldwood and Kiltiernan are due to open? I presume this will give workers on site a lot easier time of it when the route is fully closed to these busy roads.

    Just wondering about Kiltiernan, will they have to route south bound traffic on the bridge on a temporary basis first so they can finish the road south of the bridge


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    #4020
    marmurr1916
    Registered Users Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭marmurr1916


    AugustusMinimus wrote: »
    Only in Ireland.

    Another fecking eejit - it must be spring! :P


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    #4021
    m17
    Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭m17


    ratracer wrote: »
    @ M17: Do you know when the flyovers at Coldwood and Kiltiernan are due to open? I presume this will give workers on site a lot easier time of it when the route is fully closed to these busy roads.
    coldwood end of April kiltiernan will be July,annagh hill will be the next flyover to open


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