Clare GAA discussion thread

Clareman · 22-03-2016 03:31PM

Green Tae wrote: »

I don't believe he had to though.

I counted three clear fouls on Conlon so that five second advantage would have kicked in after the third foul when the forward was almost one-on-one with the keeper.

You can't claim that a player is fouling the ball if he's already being held by a defender - that's an aggressive foul.

You can't foul the ball just because you are being fouled, advantage should have been cancelled once the technical foul occurred.

Mehapoy · 22-03-2016 03:34PM

Green Tae wrote: »

I don't believe he had to though.

I counted three clear fouls on Conlon so that five second advantage would have kicked in after the third foul when the forward was almost one-on-one with the keeper.

You can't claim that a player is fouling the ball if he's already being held by a defender - that's an aggressive foul.

So if conlon threw the ball into the net it should be allowed as he was being fouled by the defenders??

Clareman · 22-03-2016 03:37PM

I'm picturing a player running with the ball, takes 3.99 steps and a defender tugs the jersey so they go a bit more, then another tug so they go a bit more, you could end up running the length of the pitch once you were being fouled. Another thing could be you could walk the ball into the net once you were being fouled

buck65 · 22-03-2016 05:08PM

I believe that Conlon still has 3 unused steps , can these be carried into the next game?
The ref actually blew his whistle before it was struck and still allowed the goal to stand.
I was right behind that goal and the whistle definitely sounded before the shot rang out from the grassy knoll.

windy shepard henderson · 22-03-2016 08:48PM

buck65 wrote: »

I believe that Conlon still has 3 unused steps , can these be carried into the next game?
The ref actually blew his whistle before it was struck and still allowed the goal to stand.
I was right behind that goal and the whistle definitely sounded before the shot rang out from the grassy knoll.

to me that should be a bigger talking point rather then the steps , tj was in the media today complaining about the amount of steps taken when every other clare , limerick person and there dog's knew there was an advantage being played , the really poor decision for me is allowing the goal after blowing the whistle , i am certain a number of limerick players stopped before conlon got his shot away,

fabsoul · 23-03-2016 03:22PM

Cusack Park

http://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/pic-embarrassing-oversight-clare-gaas-e1-9m-cusack-park-redevelopment/70738

Clareman · 23-03-2016 03:30PM

Just as well Twitter is banned from Clare GAA then

Green_Tae · 23-03-2016 03:38PM

Clareman wrote: »

You can't foul the ball just because you are being fouled.

Yes, you can. You don't really have any other option than perhaps stopping dead in your tracks and looking to the referee for clemency.

Green_Tae · 23-03-2016 03:40PM

Clareman wrote: »

I'm picturing a player running with the ball, takes 3.99 steps and a defender tugs the jersey so they go a bit more, then another tug so they go a bit more, you could end up running the length of the pitch once you were being fouled. Another thing could be you could walk the ball into the net once you were being fouled

Technically, yes. But that's never going to happen.

Green_Tae · 23-03-2016 03:45PM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

to me that should be a bigger talking point rather then the steps , tj was in the media today complaining about the amount of steps taken when every other clare , limerick person and there dog's knew there was an advantage being played , the really poor decision for me is allowing the goal after blowing the whistle , i am certain a number of limerick players stopped before conlon got his shot away,

Probably but Conlon took his goal right after he'd broken free of the back committing the foul. It was a well-taken goal, that's the kind of result the advantage rule is supposed to permit. The referee was a little nervous, you can forgive him that. They're amateurs, they're still discovering how to get the most out of a relatively new rule. All in all, I'd rather see scores from play than dead-balls and ultimately - fair play ref!

Prop Joe · 23-03-2016 03:47PM

Has anyone a link to pics of the new stand in Ennis?

Figerty · 23-03-2016 07:15PM

Prop Joe wrote: »

Has anyone a link to pics of the new stand in Ennis?

Just look at pictures of the old stand.. they are close enough..

windy shepard henderson · 23-03-2016 07:20PM

Prop Joe wrote: »

Has anyone a link to pics of the new stand in Ennis?

the "new" stand is'nt any diffrent to the old one , new roof new plastic seats and new changing rooms , we were hoping for the seated area to be extended to fill the two corners but it was'nt

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Clareman · 23-03-2016 07:22PM

According to Clare GAA here's what it looks like since the upgrade

ollaetta · 26-03-2016 12:41AM

Twitter reporting that David McInerney will be out for 3 to 4 weeks with a back problem. Injury list getting a bit worrying at this stage.

windy shepard henderson · 26-03-2016 11:37AM

ollaetta wrote: »

Twitter reporting that David McInerney will be out for 3 to 4 weeks with a back problem. Injury list getting a bit worrying at this stage.

it should offer a good test for conor cleary against tipp next weekend but a huge blow none the less, by far and above our best player so far in 2016 lets hope he is fully fit for the munster championship semi final against waterford in 7 weeks time

Clareman · 26-03-2016 11:41AM

The hard part is done now for the league anything else from the league at this stage is a bonus, wrap anyone with a niggle up in cotton wool until the Championship. This year was all about promotion in the league and getting to Croke Park, a Munster championship would be a massive bonus.

keeponhurling · 26-03-2016 12:00PM

Seamus Callanan is always a tough man to mark, big job for the full back (Pat O'Connor?)

They'll want to have the defence in order for there to be any possibility of the semi final.

windy shepard henderson · 26-03-2016 12:16PM

keeponhurling wrote: »

Seamus Callanan is always a tough man to mark, big job for the full back (Pat O'Connor?)

They'll want to have the defence in order for there to be any possibility of the semi final.

i would expect dillon to mark him although oisin o' brien did a fine job on cian lynch last week , shane o'donnell is now out for a month aswell , as clareman said its probably not the time to be taking too many chances with the championship around the corner

Figerty · 26-03-2016 03:48PM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

i would expect dillon to mark him although oisin o' brien did a fine job on cian lynch last week , shane o'donnell is now out for a month aswell , as clareman said its probably not the time to be taking too many chances with the championship around the corner

We were well outclassed last year in Ennis in the league last year. Has anything changed much.
If O'Donnell is out it might finally force Davy into trying out a plan B.

windy shepard henderson · 26-03-2016 11:20PM

more bad new on the injury front , after david mac david reidy was outstanding through out the league campaign he picked up an injury in a clare cup game for eire og tonight , there 3 point win over wolfe tones was met with another inter county injury with arron shanagher picking up an ankle injury ( i think) none the less it will add to the injury table list ahead of the tipp game the county board will have to take out another loan now to pay for all the tables!!!!

few lively games in the start of the club league , plenty of red cards thrown about cian dillon possibly the most noted player in crusheen's loss to kilmaley , partin had a fine win to the ever sliding doora/barefield
while on easter riseing weekend it was nice to see smith o'briens and corofin put down there hurls and reenact the battle of the GPO on the banks of lough derg....the division 2 fixture ended in a home win after 5 players were shown the line

letowski · 26-03-2016 11:30PM

Theres a good few injured now. Is Peter Duggan back next this week? He was right in starting consideration before injury.

I think Colin Ryan comes in at 12, Aaron to 14 and Cleary to 6 for the next day.

windy shepard henderson · 26-03-2016 11:39PM

letowski wrote: »

Theres a good few injured now. Is Peter Duggan back next this week? He was right in starting consideration before injury.

I think Colin Ryan comes in at 12, Aaron to 14 and Cleary to 6 for the next day.

the injuries might not be too bad both players got knocks in club games today doubt he would have used shanagher , not sure about duggan , could start but with honan seen as an option on the 40 who knows colin will come back in for bobby , would like to see how affective john conlon would be as an inside forward against a better full back line , to be fair honan on the 40 and conlon inside is how clonlara prefer to operate totts deserves a run too , he also has nothing done wrong ,podge will return too so all is not that bad

windy shepard henderson · 27-03-2016 12:38AM

clare v longford sunday cusack pk @ 3pm

no team announced yet in regards the footballers , infact camp has been very quiet since the poor performance against offaly up in o'connor park two weeks ago . the performance of some of the more key players came under the media spotlight and while it was scathing attack by some journalists it was hard to argue with some points

clare have been the best performers in this division after runaway leaders kildare but once again inconsistent performances have us in an uncertain position , a win has us in pole position and odds on favorites for promotion , a defeat along with home wins for westmeath and sligo will pit us back into a relegation dog fight

not sure if podge will get the nod to start but i do expect him to play a part at some stage , and badly needed he is as we have been over relient on the same two or 3 players in reacent games for scores . i expect better performances from pearse lillis and cian o'dea , the two minor/u21s were on there 3rd inter county game in 7 days when they lined out against offaly and were ineffective, in truth they probably should not have been picked to start in the first place

the other regular minor/u21 keelan sexton has had a fine league so far when asked off the bench , and it would be no surprise to see him get the nod ahead of shane mcgragh who has been struggling for fitness all year

with the number of minors and under 21 players ought weighing the number of players over the age of 30 in the squad this game provides a huge opportunity in the development of clare football , longford are a descent side with some descent forward's but if we are looking to put inconsistency to one side this is the game to start with followed by another win in newbridge next sunday , the possibility of two defeats and where that could leave us is almost unthinkable

letowski · 27-03-2016 01:00AM

windy shepard henderson wrote:

the injuries might not be too bad both players got knocks in club games today doubt he would have used shanagher , not sure about duggan , could start but with honan seen as an option on the 40 who knows colin will come back in for bobby , would like to see how affective john conlon would be as an inside forward against a better full back line , to be fair honan on the 40 and conlon inside is how clonlara prefer to operate totts deserves a run too , he also has nothing done wrong ,podge will return too so all is not that bad

I think looking at the forwards if say Kelly is ready for june, himself Conlon Ryan McGrath Sod are all definite starters with the last spot up for grabs. I think you have six or 7 seven candidates for it depending on whether Davy (hopefully) plays a 6th forward or and extra back like Conor Ryan was last week. I like the idea of Conlon in the square, the only other time he played there for Clare was against Wexford in 2014 and he scored 2-4. That would give an oppertunity for Peter Duggan to then be the main ball winner on the 40. I get the feeling Davy sees the likes of Honan, Tots and Cunningham more as impact subs than starters as they can never get a proper run of games. At least there are options there anyway.

windy shepard henderson · 27-03-2016 01:13AM

letowski wrote: »

I think looking at the forwards if say Kelly is ready for june, himself Conlon Ryan McGrath Sod are all definite starters with the last spot up for grabs. I think you have six or 7 seven candidates for it depending on whether Davy (hopefully) plays a 6th forward or and extra back like Conor Ryan was last week. I like the idea of Conlon in the square, the only other time he played there for Clare was against Wexford in 2014 and he scored 2-4. That would give an oppertunity for Peter Duggan to then be the main ball winner on the 40. I get the feeling Davy sees the likes of Honan, Tots and Cunningham more as impact subs than starters as they can never get a proper run of games. At least there are options there anyway.

serious options to be fair , the only qustion to be asked is how the hell have we being doing so bad in the last two championships , it all simply boils down to tactics , as i said a few weeks ago davy never gave half enough chances in the league last year to certain players and was more concerned in not geting relegated , it was only this year really that when the shackles were off that we were able to tinker with selection, conlon for me is a no brainer for inside forward particularly after the limerick it allows fitz a target man up front and if he wants to persist with his short passing game out the field at least it will offer a plan b now , smaller guys like kelly and podge coming back could hamper that taught though

Clareman · 27-03-2016 12:39PM

That'll be the end of the Clare Cup so until the seniors are out of the championship so, be nice to have the county final played in December

keeponhurling · 27-03-2016 04:14PM

Looking good for the win against Longford. Also a good day for our points difference.
Surely leaves us right in the promotion shake-up now

Clareman · 27-03-2016 04:47PM

Great win for the footballers, I think it's 2 teams going up with means baring a disaster we are up in Division 2

Clareman · 27-03-2016 06:31PM

2 teams up, so if Offaly or Tipp win and we don't win we aren't promoted, if Offaly and Tipp both win we go up, if we win or draw we go up.

Hopefully Kildare will rest a few players as we can get a result away, without that I'd say Offaly are a sure bet against a regulated Limerick, Tipp have their county champions back but have a difficult trip against Sligo, I fear we'll have to get something to go up.

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