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Breaking - explosions at Brussels Airport **Mod warning in post 1**

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  • #92
    speedboatchase
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,828 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    Dots1982 wrote: »
    Do Belgium have troops in the Middle East or any involvement in the war on Isis?

    Part of the US coalition against ISIS. Not that it matters.


  • #93
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,483 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    Report this to the local police. Could be nothing, but could be a lead.

    At least ye are both okay :)
    iguana wrote: »
    I think you need to report that to the police. It could just be a coincidence but on the off chance it isn't the police may need to investigate it.
    Please, please do report this.


  • #94
    conorhal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,061 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Knex. wrote: »
    Personally, I don't think the issue lies solely at the door of migrants, or Muslims. For the most part, these terrorist attacks are orchestrated by second or third generation Europeans, born and raised in Belgium or France, with zero sense of belonging, and totally disillusioned with it all.

    I read only yesterday how Brussels averaged 15 people a month leaving the country to go join ISIS in Syria, over the last few years. This number they claimed was thankfully down now to 5.

    But this is what ISIS plays on in its recruitment drive, and I fear that the more we turn away migrants and Muslims alike, (and watch how quickly Belgium disregard their rights after this), I fear the more we play into ISIS's hands.

    I genuinely do not know how we can resolve this. For the most part, we can't even identify exactly who it is we're fighting.

    So your answer to this is import MORE muslims from the areas of the middle east with the most extremism? Yeah, that'll work!

    I believe in an open door policy too, just in the other direction. You have it the wrong way around.
    We should do nothing to impede these buggers from trying to leave and everything to prevent them arriving.
    I'd much rather the perpetrators of actions such as todays were somewhere sunny that a bunker buster bomb could be dropped on their heads then to be trapped here with them.


  • #95
    The_Valeyard
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    Omackeral wrote: »
    It's because religion has been the cause of nearly every war this century and the last.

    Didn't cause world war 1, world war 2, Korea, Vietnam, Cuban crises, etc. Stop blaming religion on a whole, for the actions of a minority of f*cked up extremists. Anyway this is getting off topic.


  • #96
    murpho999
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    RobertKK wrote: »
    All transport targets.

    Attacks designed to cause fear in what is an everyday much needed public service.

    That's an old terrorist tactic.


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  • #97
    denhaagenite
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    Straight Edge Punk wrote: »
    Do you think security wasn't tight in Brussels this morning?

    Obviously not as tight as it would be for the Euros, seeing as big events as such were explicitly threatened by ISIS. Sunny Tuesday morning, people going to work, not so much.


  • #98
    weldoninhio
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    denhaagenite wrote: »
    Normal people targeted going about their daily lives at rush hour is a bigger risk than some massive football match where security will be tight. There have been extra security measures added to even the tiniest sporting events in Western Europe for months now. I'm not attaching myself to anything. We're a very small class and over half of them are currently in Brussels.

    Brussels has been in lockdown with the highest level of security possible for the last week. Hundreds of thousands of fans will travel to France in June, with fan-zones and even just on the streets. Never mind in stadiums. If you can't see that then you are blind, or ignorant.


  • #99
    Redbishop
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    Fozzie Bear wrote: »
    Indeed and very true. It's not too long ago some of our own fellow countrymen were blowing up various parts of the UK. Belfast, Manchester, Birmingham, London, Warrington, Enniskillen, Omagh. Innocent Men, Women and Children indiscriminately blown to bits by those evil, twisted, blood hungry b@astards.

    Did that mean the British Authorities rounded up the tens of thousands of Irish people living and working over there and execute them?

    Calling for Millions of Western Muslims to be executed is beyond Retarded.

    Jeez lads, why pick "beyond retarded" as a byword.
    Have yiz got some special reason for picking a section of society you think they have gone beyond.
    Its gone beyond humanity for sure I would say.


  • #100
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,774 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    murpho999 wrote: »
    That's an old terrorist tactic.

    Yes and unfortunately very effective.


  • #101
    [Deleted User]
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    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    Didn't cause world war 1, world war 2, Korea, Vietnam, Cuban crises, etc. Stop blaming religion on a whole, for the actions of a minority of f*cked up extremists. Anyway this is getting off topic.

    It had major roles in both World Wars and their legacies. While you saying minority is accurate, it's religion that is at the crux of it. Their war cry is literally a reference to how great their God is, before pulverising innocents.


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  • #102
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,783 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    Didn't cause world war 1, world war 2, Korea, Vietnam, Cuban crises, etc. Stop blaming religion on a whole, for the actions of a minority of f*cked up extremists. Anyway this is getting off topic.

    Would disagree about WW2, Hitler's anti-semetic policies and Aryan race doctrine are definitely connected to religion.


  • #103
    Straight Edge Punk
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Straight Edge Punk


    denhaagenite wrote: »
    Obviously not as tight as it would be for the Euros, seeing as big events as such were explicitly threatened by ISIS. Sunny Tuesday morning, people going to work, not so much.

    Brussels has been on lockdown for a week.


  • #104
    mynameis905
    Closed Accounts Posts: 754 ✭✭✭mynameis905


    dav3 wrote: »
    RIP to all those innocent people who lost their lives.

    It's quite telling that the first thing the knuckle draggers do is have a go at religion or immigrants before showing their respect.

    Really showing yourselves up there boys and girls.

    Without the cancer that is Islam we would not have had this attack, nor the two in Paris last year. For a 'religion of peace' they don't exactly cover themselves in glory.


  • #105
    inforfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,863 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Love to see your evidence that every person in that area knew he was there.

    Quoting someone living there will do?


    126 days was public enemy number one, Salah Abdeslam, hiding in the heart of Brussels. For months, experts speculated that he would hide in the caliphate. But yesterday he was nabbed at about 300 meters from the family home. ,, Here in the district has always everybody knew that Salah was still here. "

    © afp.
    And not only he, too Mohamed Abrini was in that house next to the pharmacy. ,, They walked in recent weeks openly around, albeit with caps on their heads, but in the district more and were more stories about them were the two of here, in the house there, and they also had support, "said a woman from the Vierwindenstraat De Morgen, joined by two other local residents.

    She continues: ,, A month ago, they still pass walk the police station just for fun. "

    fast delivery
    France wants a quick extradition Belgium Salah Abdeslam, the terrorist who participated in last November the terrorist attacks in Paris. The Frenchman was Friday by the Belgian judiciary with four others arrested in the Brussels commune of Molenbeek. He injured his leg and was transferred to a hospital.

    Relatives of victims and survivors of the French government already called for a quick request for extradition and trial in France. French President holds Saturday in Paris an emergency meeting on the matter. He has already said that there are still arriving arrests in France in the dismantling of a network that was involved in the attacks. Hollande hopes that Belgium take rapid extradition after being officially requested.

    In the attacks of November 13 130 people died.

    (via Google translate)


  • #106
    Miss Merry Berry
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    I honestly don't know what to believe or think anymore. My sympathy and compassion has all but dried up. I honestly don't want 20,000 migrants coming to Ireland unvetted. I'm vetted up to my eyeballs every time I start a new job, never mind moving country. Our values and standards cannot be attacked like this, I'm fed up of it to be honest. I do not want to hear of another attack like this. Europe needs to wake up.


  • #107
    Neamhshuntasach
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    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    Report this to the local police. Could be nothing, but could be a lead.

    At least ye are both okay :)

    I have. Waiting for statement now. We were using Airbnb so who knows could be in the apartment beside us. Such a strange feeling as my girlfriend could not go back asleep. She kept saying that she was afraid they were 'T words'. Not because they were talking in Arabic. But due to the weird noises and banging.

    Hopefully next door was nothing. I don't think I could take knowing something like the planning happened feet from me.


  • #108
    weisses
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    Dots1982 wrote: »
    Do Belgium have troops in the Middle East or any involvement in the war on Isis?

    Brussels has a very large Muslim community approx 25%, Many extremists have connections with People in Brussels


  • #109
    The_Valeyard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Omackeral wrote: »
    It had major roles in both World Wars and their legacies. While you saying minority is accurate, it's religion that is at the crux of it. Their war cry is literally a reference to how great their God is, before pulverising innocents.

    Christ on a bike. World War one was a war based on an arm's race and old world treaties been inacted. Nothing to do with religion.

    World War Two was a war of ideology, communism, vs fascism VR capitalism/ democracy.


  • #110
    conorhal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,061 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Miss Merry Berry wrote: »
    I honestly don't know what to believe or think anymore. My sympathy and compassion has all but dried up. I honestly don't want 20,000 migrants coming to Ireland unvetted. I'm vetted up to my eyeballs every time I start a new job, never mind moving country. Our values and standards cannot be attacked like this, I'm fed up of it to be honest. I do not want to hear of another attack like this. Europe needs to wake up.

    It will become the 'new norm' from now on until the open boarders loons in charge of Europe either wake up or are kicked out of any position of power and responsibility.


  • #111
    Straight Edge Punk
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Straight Edge Punk


    Miss Merry Berry wrote: »
    I honestly don't know what to believe or think anymore. My sympathy and compassion has all but dried up. I honestly don't want 20,000 migrants coming to Ireland unvetted. I'm vetted up to my eyeballs every time I start a new job, never mind moving country. Our values and standards cannot be attacked like this, I'm fed up of it to be honest. I do not want to hear of another attack like this. Europe needs to wake up.

    Oh don't you worry, we will still have plenty of people saying it's OK to allow these people enter our country freely. It is ridiculous and anybody who thinks like this needs to be sterilised.


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  • #112
    The_Valeyard
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    murpho999 wrote: »
    Would disagree about WW2, Hitler's anti-semetic policies and Aryan race doctrine are definitely connected to religion.

    They were not. Sure the Nazi's also exterminated many Christians. Hitler's Aryan policies were about creating a master race of Germans with expanding territory. The anti Semitic policies did not cause any war. Nor did many nations really give a damn about Hitler's policies towards Jew's. Not connected with religion, just personal hatred and rage.


  • #113
    [Deleted User]
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    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    Christ on a bike. World War one was a war based on an arm's race and old world treaties been inacted. Nothing to do with religion.

    World War Two was a war of ideology, communism, vs fascism VR capitalism/ democracy.


    Thanks for the history lesson professor. And Christ didn't go on a bike, even if he was magical.


  • #114
    Knex*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    I'm depressed. Just totally ****ing saddened by it all.

    I have no idea where the west goes from here.


  • #115
    dav3
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    Straight Edge Punk wrote: »
    Oh don't you worry, we will still have plenty of people saying it's OK to allow these people enter our country freely. It is ridiculous and anybody who thinks like this needs to be sterilised.

    They don't enter our country freely though, that's a hysterical overreaction.


  • #116
    The_Valeyard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Knex. wrote: »
    I'm depressed. Just totally ****ing saddened by it all.

    I have no idea where the west goes from here.

    Yep. Lot of deep thinking to do be done. Horrible news to wake up to.


  • #117
    Knex*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Thanks for the history lesson professor. And Christ didn't go on a bike, even if he was magical.

    Be a smart ass all you want, but he's right.


  • #118
    dissed doc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭dissed doc


    weisses wrote: »
    Brussels has a very large Muslim community approx 25%, Many extremists have connections with People in Brussels

    As the population of Muslims in any city increases, usually over 10% is where the violence starts. Under 5% and they keep within the law and a low profile. As population rises, the demands for Sharia Law starts, escalating to enduring violence against Non-Muslims.

    Read how Islam took over North Africa. Usually it only takes one generation,around 20 years. Sustainable violence sees every place capitulate.

    Thank you Peter Sutherland. Thank you Angela Merkel.

    Many countries now understand what it is like, to have a foreign occupying violent culture with its own laws and religion turn up on your land and force you off.

    Where are the European ministers for defence? There are virtually weekly terrorist attacks now. Are our ladies who control our armies having tea and scones with Sutherland, Merkel and Rompey as usual?


  • #119
    Straight Edge Punk
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    dav3 wrote: »
    They don't enter our country freely though, that's a hysterical overreaction.

    What kind of vetting are they going through?


  • #120
    Brindor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Brindor


    Knex. wrote: »
    I'm depressed. Just totally ****ing saddened by it all.

    I have no idea where the west goes from here.

    Nowhere.
    Restrictions will be imposed, the event will be in the public eye, but will life will go on again, as it always has.


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  • #121
    K-9
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    galljga1 wrote: »
    Highly unlikely. It would be great if it was not. Still tragic.

    Hmmm, nope, it wouldn't be great if it wasn't terrorist related!

    Seriously, shows how difficult it is to prevent terrorist attacks. A return to the 1980`s for me.

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