Sing Street

Grab All Association · 07-03-2016 2:53am #1

Just seen the trailer for this movie tonight on Sky News and within the first 2 seconds I could see a number of factual errors.

Cushelle in 1980

King crisps in 2008 packaging

Loads more if you look.

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AnonoBoy · 07-03-2016 3:43pm

Back in the 1980's as well they didn't have the ability to nitpick the fun out of any movie before it was released!

endacl · 07-03-2016 3:45pm

Thread lacks a sense of perspective. 2/10

Technocentral · 07-03-2016 6:08pm

Grab All Association wrote:

King crisps in 2008 packaging

Damn that's a pity, could have been in the running for an Oscar if it wasn't for that awful faux pas.

david75 · 08-03-2016 10:37am

Everyone I know who's seen it is raving about it. Can't wait to see it.

endacl · 08-03-2016 2:16pm

david75 wrote: »

Everyone I know who's seen it is raving about it. Can't wait to see it.

Hah! Raving is 90s.

:pac:

david75 · 08-03-2016 3:41pm

Started in 86/87 actually.

edbrez · 08-03-2016 4:31pm

Buddy Holly sang about raving in the 1950s.

Missyelliot2 · 15-03-2016 6:46pm

david75 wrote: »

Everyone I know who's seen it is raving about it. Can't wait to see it.

It's brilliant! Saw it last night......can't wait for the soundtrack. 80s memories;)

JP Liz V1 · 15-03-2016 10:26pm

Missyelliot2 wrote: »

It's brilliant! Saw it last night......can't wait for the soundtrack. 80s memories;)

Is it out on general release now?

Mr E · 16-03-2016 9:59am

Tomorrow (17th). Looking forward to it.

mahoganygas · 16-03-2016 10:12am

Well spotted!

I love spotting these things in movies.
The main character holding a coffee cup in one shot, then it's nowhere to be seen in the next.

There's a famous scene in Star Wars of a storm trooper smacking his head off a bulkhead. It never got edited out.

Or the entire Michael Collins film for historical inaccuracies! :pac:

Ralf and Florian · 16-03-2016 11:10am

Is there any explanation as to the inclusion of a black ethnic character in Dublin in 1980?And I don't mean mixed race like Phillo and Paul Mcgrath.Strikes me as tokenistic.If they really felt the need to make one of the main characters ethnic it would have been more believeable to make him Chinese as they were well established as a community in Ireland when the film is set.

AnonoBoy · 16-03-2016 11:19am

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

Is there any explanation as to the inclusion of a black ethnic character in Dublin in 1980?And I don't mean mixed race like Phillo and Paul Mcgrath.Strikes me as tokenistic.If they really felt the need to make one of the main characters ethnic it would have been more believeable to make him Chinese as they were well established as a community in Ireland when the film is set.

Maybe the actor was just really good so they cast him/her?

Ralf and Florian · 16-03-2016 11:36am

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Maybe the actor was just really good so they cast him/her?

He'll be a shoo in to play Dev then if they make another series of Rebellion.

AnonoBoy · 16-03-2016 11:44am

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

He'll be a shoo in to play Dev then if they make another series of Rebellion.

I don't really find it that unbelievable that a black family lived in Dublin in the 1980's though. Sure there wasn't many but it's not something I'd worry about in a casting session for something like this.

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Ah I just watched the trailer - the kid looks cool. Is it possible that there's actually a subplot about having to get a black guy in the band for them to be cool?
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Although this review would indicate that he's not really used much -

The biggest shame of the plot is that despite initially looking as though it might subvert expectations regarding Ngig, it ultimately uses him as little more than set-dressing - although he is not the only band character who is under-written.

Ralf and Florian · 16-03-2016 11:58am

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I don't really find it that unbelievable that a black family lived in Dublin in the 1980's though. Sure there wasn't many but it's not something I'd worry about in a casting session for something like this.

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Ah I just watched the trailer - the kid looks cool. Is it possible that there's actually a subplot about having to get a black guy in the band for them to be cool?
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Although this review would indicate that he's not really used much -

The film poster and publicity shots give the impression that hes a major character,suspect his inclusion was an afterthought to make the filmmakers appear down wit da modern kids.

AnonoBoy · 16-03-2016 12:04pm

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

The film poster and publicity shots give the impression that hes a major character,suspect his inclusion was an afterthought to make the filmmakers appear down wit da modern kids.

It seems from that review that most of the band aren't really well written characters and are more just props around the main lad.

Sad Professor · 16-03-2016 12:36pm

The black kid is very much a token character I'm sorry to say. He has about 3 or 4 lines in the whole film. Most of them in his first scene - which is quite funny. After that he just stands in the background. I felt sorry for the kid. It's true that the other band mates aren't really developed either, but his character definitely comes across like an afterthought. An rather anachronistic one at that.

Like Once, I'd suggest Sing Street is set in an alternate reality Dublin that mixes different periods. We get the 80s fashion and music but not much else from that period. Reynor's long haired, pot-smoking character looks like he could have walked in from a recent American film.

The film is really intended for international rather than Irish audiences. The whole family sub-plot rings false from an '80s Irish perspective. And there's a lot of awkward exposition about who the Christian Brothers are and why there's no divorce in Ireland.

Mr E · 18-03-2016 12:34am

Ah flip off with your moaning, SP. I saw this tonight and absolutely loved it.

It's a real feel good movie with lots of laughs, brilliant original music and some breakout acting performances.

Besides the music, the main focus was around the budding romance and the brothers - it didn't bother me that some other characters weren't fully fleshed out. It allowed the two main relationships to stand out more.

I'll probably see it again before it leaves the cinema, and there aren't many movies that I would do that for.

Sad Professor · 18-03-2016 12:54pm

Touché.

I actually did enjoy the film. What Carney lacks in narrative, he more than makes up for in charm. And even if some of the roles are underwritten, the two leads, especially the girl, are excellent.

There's been a lot of comparisons to The Commitments but I think Sing Street owes more to John Hughes, who I've always had conflicted feelings about but whom seems to be making a resurgence lately.

Simon2015 · 18-03-2016 6:30pm

I went to Synge Street its a kip of a school I hope the film doesn't glamorize the school.

Sad Professor · 18-03-2016 6:58pm

Simon2015 wrote: »

I went to Synge Street its a kip of a school I hope the film doesn't glamorize the school.

I almost went there, though where I ended up going was just as bad if not worse.

e_e · 18-03-2016 9:16pm

My problem with the film was that the original music felt straight out of X Factor. Just felt really hollow and inauthentic. I was never in the moment and always reminded that I was watching a 2016 overly nostalgic version of 80s Dublin. Like Begin Again it's a nice movie but almost aggressively so in a "please love me!!!" kind of way where it goes for big crowd-pleasing moments without ever really earning them. I enjoyed it enough but I wouldn't mind never seeing it again.

Also while we're picking nits

the DART scene drove me crazy where it was clear they were in Blackrock and then the very next shot it was Killiney.

Reminded me of in Frank where the beginning was set in England but they shot it in Bray and when the line "we're going to Ireland" comes up it's like "Wait, what?" :P

Outkast_IRE · 19-03-2016 1:26pm

Seen this last night. Overall a very enjoyable experience, I must say i found myself smiling and laughing my way through a lot of the movie.

The trailer doesn't really do it justice, as the movie covers a whole host of more serious issues in Ireland during the period.

For me a very solid 4/5

edbrez · 19-03-2016 2:02pm

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

Is there any explanation as to the inclusion of a black ethnic character in Dublin in 1980?

No-one heard of Light a big fire?

Ralf and Florian · 19-03-2016 4:21pm

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

Is there any explanation as to the inclusion of a black ethnic character in Dublin in 1980?And I don't mean mixed race like Phillo and Paul Mcgrath.Strikes me as tokenistic.If they really felt the need to make one of the main characters ethnic it would have been more believeable to make him Chinese as they were well established as a community in Ireland when the film is set.

edbrez wrote: »

No-one heard of Light a big fire?

I assume you're talking about Owen Conroy in which case you didn't fully read my post.

edbrez · 19-03-2016 4:40pm

He might be mixed-race now but he was black in 1985. Nothing sadder than looking back 30 years earlier wearing politically-correct goggles.

Ralf and Florian · 19-03-2016 5:26pm

edbrez wrote: »

He might be mixed-race now but he was black in 1985. Nothing sadder than looking back 30 years earlier wearing politically-correct goggles.

Bowlardo · 19-03-2016 5:58pm

I hate the way it is marketed " if you like the commitments you will like this!"
This film should not be mentioned in the same breath as the commitments.
The music the band play is so ****ing x-factor\one directions. It is totally disjointed as the music the older brother recommends would suggest there were going to come out with something edgey.
In the end it didn't know what it wanted to be. an awful lot of it felt forced.
There are some genuinely laugh out loud scene in it and it does bring back a lot of memories of secondary school back.

very disappointed but still enjoyed it

RainyDay · 19-03-2016 6:40pm

Simon2015 wrote: »

I went to Synge Street its a kip of a school I hope the film doesn't glamorize the school.

Another Synger boy here from the 80s. We had our token black guy in the class too. Rest assured, it looked pretty kippy. They did overplay the violence and agression a tad. It was funny to see particular classrooms that I'm pretty sure I sat in, the Principal's office from the primary school, and the school hall, looking an awful lot smaller than in my memories.

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

Seen this last night. Overall a very enjoyable experience, I must say i found myself smiling and laughing my way through a lot of the movie.

The trailer doesn't really do it justice, as the movie covers a whole host of more serious issues in Ireland during the period.

For me a very solid 4/5

Yep, that matches my view - very enjoyable. The one thing that did bug me though was when

the girl explained away the bruise on her face, saying that she really did deserve to be hit. That shouldn't have been left unchallenged, and seemed out of step with the rest of the movie

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19-03-2016 8:20pm

Regarding the ending,

how on earth did Conor afford to fuel the grandad's boat?

tony stark · 19-03-2016 9:38pm

Jack Reynors accent is enough to turn me off this movie. He's dog sh**e. He played himself in "what Richard did". His part in this film looks cringe inducing. I'll probably endure it as it looks good outside that. Anyone else find Reynor as annoying!?!??

e_e · 19-03-2016 9:49pm

tony stark wrote: »

Jack Reynors accent is enough to turn me off this movie. He's dog sh**e. He played himself in "what Richard did". His part in this film looks cringe inducing. I'll probably endure it as it looks good outside that. Anyone else find Reynor as annoying!?!??

He was easily my favorite part of the film, part of me wished it was about him tbh as his inner conflict was interesting and his bedroom (the posters, hi-fi and record collection) felt way more of the time than the rest of it.

bridgettedon · 19-03-2016 9:50pm

Mr E wrote: »

Ah flip off with your moaning, SP. I saw this tonight and absolutely loved it.
It's a real feel good movie with lots of laughs, brilliant original music and some breakout acting performances.

Besides the music, the main focus was around the budding romance and the brothers - it didn't bother me that some other characters weren't fully fleshed out. It allowed the two main relationships to stand out more.

I'll probably see it again before it leaves the cinema, and there aren't many movies that I would do that for.

I thought the exact opposite. One of the worst films I have seen in a long time. The music was alright. The acting was alright by some but not impressive. I didn't like the brother. His accent seemed completely out of place. Overall it was quite poor. I would of left halfway through if I could of. There weren't many laughs from the few others in the cinema as well. There were a few nice moments between the brothers in the film but it wasn't enough to save it for me anyway.

AnonoBoy · 19-03-2016 10:38pm

tony stark wrote: »

Anyone else find Reynor as annoying!?!??

I think he's a decent actor but yeah, I do find him a tad annoying.

santana75 · 19-03-2016 11:02pm

Saw this tonight and I really wanted to like it. Not a big fan of once but I thought begin again was brilliant. Thought this was gonna be another step up for carney but instead this film just seems a bit disjointed or something. Started off well with the scene of the main characters first day in synge st. The random violence, the lad with the rat on a stick, the dodgy tashes.......fond memories. But I dunno from there on it just kind of felt forced or something. Some funny moments Definitely but some of the acting was ropey and delivery of lines was flat. The girl playing the love interest was fairly wooden.
I feel an American remake coming on though, which might not be a bad thing. Bigger budget better actors. Overall a bit of a let down.

CiDeRmAn · 20-03-2016 8:55am

tony stark wrote: »

Jack Reynors accent is enough to turn me off this movie. He's dog sh**e. He played himself in "what Richard did". His part in this film looks cringe inducing. I'll probably endure it as it looks good outside that. Anyone else find Reynor as annoying!?!??

His accent drove me bananas!
But otherwise the film was a cracker.

Small issue...

The implied inappropriateness of the priest offering for our hero to use his bathroom to wash off makeup saying his face was pretty enough.

But this was more than made up for else where, with the equally implied but clear message that Raphina was abused by her father, and her explanation for her bruises.

The original music was fantastic, influenced by whatever the brother had him listen to the night before, does suggest that the hero has no taste of his own!

RainyDay · 20-03-2016 12:00pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Small issue...
But this was more than made up for else where, with the equally implied but clear message that Raphina was abused by her father, and her explanation for her bruises.

I didn't get that at all.

Didn't she say that her father was 'brown bread' - which was a bit grating in itself as cockney rhyming slang wasn't big in Synger in the 80s - and her mother was manic depressive. I got a clear message that the older boyfriend, Evan?, driver of the white Golf had abused her. And I really didn't like her "I totally deserved it" line.

edbrez · 20-03-2016 3:46pm

santana75 wrote: »

Thought this was gonna be another step up for carney but instead this film just seems a bit disjointed or something.

He's directed some awful films: Zonad, On the edge. Then there are November afternoon, Park and Rafters which aren't available. Disjointed musicals about band/singers starting out is his forte.

uvox · 20-03-2016 7:14pm

Boy does that movie die in the second half! What happened? Did they forget there was always a B-side in the 1980s? What a shame. 5/10.

AnonoBoy · 21-03-2016 9:56am

edbrez wrote: »

He's directed some awful films: Zonad, On the edge. Then there are November afternoon, Park and Rafters which aren't available. Disjointed musicals about band/singers starting out is his forte.

I didn't realise he made November Afternoon. I remember seeing that years ago on TV and quite liking it - as much as you can like a drama about adult incest that is.

Radiotower · 21-03-2016 10:59am

RainyDay wrote: »

I didn't get that at all.
Didn't she say that her father was 'brown bread' - which was a bit grating in itself as cockney rhyming slang wasn't big in Synger in the 80s - and her mother was manic depressive. I got a clear message that the older boyfriend, Evan?, driver of the white Golf had abused her. And I really didn't like her "I totally deserved it" line.

I thought it was pretty clear..

She said something like she didn't understand why her dad was interested in her when her mother was prettier than she was.

Radiotower · 21-03-2016 11:08am

Went to see it Friday evening. I enjoyed it, the new songs were very catchy I thought. Some nice funny bits - could have used the band members more for some more comedy.

I see people commenting on Jack Reynors accent on here but I found Raphina's accent really strange...

I don't get to the cinema very often (could be 2 years since I last went) - was very surprised / disappointed that there was only 7 people at the show on a Friday evening for a new release that is getting pretty good reviews from anything I've seen / heard.

About the ending

I wonder do they make it to the UK? Most Irish films don't have a happy ending so I was expecting not... Why wasn't she wearing a life jacket especially since she couldn't swim and I hope they had their demo tapes and photo's in a waterproof bag!!!

RainyDay · 21-03-2016 12:11pm

Radiotower wrote: »

I thought it was pretty clear..
She said something like she didn't understand why her dad was interested in her when her mother was prettier than she was.

What's that got to do with

her being beaten by anyone, whether the Dad or the Genesis fan?

Radiotower wrote: »

About the ending
I wonder do they make it to the UK? Most Irish films don't have a happy ending so I was expecting not... Why wasn't she wearing a life jacket especially since she couldn't swim and I hope they had their demo tapes and photo's in a waterproof bag!!!

Don't take it too seriously. Would a boat of that size make it anywhere near that distance? Did they have enough fuel? If you take it literally, they are both dead!

darkdubh · 21-03-2016 12:33pm

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I didn't realise he made November Afternoon. I remember seeing that years ago on TV and quite liking it - as much as you can like a drama about adult incest that is.

Saw it years ago too,the main thing I remember about it was how utterly unlikeable pretty much all the main characters were.

Looper007 · 21-03-2016 1:04pm

edbrez wrote: »

He's directed some awful films: Zonad, On the edge. Then there are November afternoon, Park and Rafters which aren't available. Disjointed musicals about band/singers starting out is his forte.

Have this disagree about that film, I think On The Edge is his best movie to date. Zonad was awful.

I always thought Once soundtrack was more famous then the film, the musical of the film I thought was better too. Begin Again I enjoyed a lot more then Once although the soundtrack isn't as great. I do think it's time to probably get away from music based films and do something off track.

AnonoBoy · 21-03-2016 1:08pm

darkdubh wrote: »

Saw it years ago too,the main thing I remember about it was how utterly unlikeable pretty much all the main characters were.

Serious. Black & White. Drama.

To be honest all I remember really was Rats was shagging his sister in it and Mark Doherty went to get pints because they were stuck in traffic so long.

CiDeRmAn · 21-03-2016 1:57pm

Radiotower wrote: »

I thought it was pretty clear..
She said something like she didn't understand why her dad was interested in her when her mother was prettier than she was.

Yeah, it was clear that

her father was an alcoholic and physically abusive and, while her mother was incapacitated by her mental illness, that her father was sexually abusing her. Her replies were textbook for someone that has been abused and no one has ever listened to her, remembering that this is the early to mid 80's when sexual abuse in any regard was something buried.

Also

with regard to the boyfriend, he was a c*nt and was only using her to get her into bed. She's only 16, he's at least 2 years older, as he's driving, and the age is referred to by the older brother. She has been abused and not listened to before, which is why she considers it something she deserved.

Dublin in that period was a rough kip in places, and much of it is in the background of the film which is good.

RainyDay · 21-03-2016 2:08pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Yeah, it was clear that
her father was an alcoholic and physically abusive and, while her mother was incapacitated by her mental illness, that her father was sexually abusing her. Her replies were textbook for someone that has been abused and no one has ever listened to her, remembering that this is the early to mid 80's when sexual abuse in any regard was something buried.

But

the father was dead (or 'brown bread') as she said, right? How could he be responsible for a fresh bruise? It had to have been the Genesis guy.

Radiotower · 21-03-2016 2:10pm

RainyDay wrote: »

But
the father was dead (or 'brown bread') as she said, right? How could he be responsible for a fresh bruise? It had to have been the Genesis guy.

Father was abusing her - he died + mother in and out of hospital - she moved into girls home - started going out with Genesis guy - he started beating her up = Fresh bruise

Sing Street

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