Fitness industry scam

MilesMorales1 · 13-03-2016 03:32PM

I've tried to calorie counting before, but I really can't be arsed, its more trouble than its worth for me.

JPNelsforearm · 13-03-2016 03:35PM

stoplooklisten wrote: »

of course, bro, i was in the sports hall last night and I said to my trainer put on more weights, he said, there are no more :eek:

Tren = Trenbolone Dosage?

https://www.steroidal.com/steroid-profiles/trenbolone/trenbolone-dosage/

because there low on Testosterone, I presume?

If they want to get shredded, would they not stick their hand in a blender?

Yes that is the latest cover story, "my endo says I have low test" etc..

meeeeh · 13-03-2016 03:53PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Yes, a thread after my heart.

I am finding it absurd that these health and fitness types get so much TV and Radio airtime. It also seems like everyone of the Assets Modelling alumni suddenly go into Food Blogging/Health Cooking books/nutrition when their modelling career ends. It has become a complete and utter bore at this stage.

Then we have the Operation Transformation and Niall Brezzy Breslin types. Lose weight, you won't be miserable anymore. Run the Brezzy Triathlon, no more depression for you. It is completely fraudulent despite the small print.

Joining a gym seems to be another cure for personal issues.

They would be easy to ignore if they were not investing the media so often and health fascism seems to have the ear of whatever the government of the day is.

100 times this. They are the new self help nonsense. Business problems - go for a run and you will be OK. Cancer - stop eating crabs and you will be fine. Tired - a bit of spinach will sort you out in no time. Oh and it's great to eat greens because photosynthesis in your stomach will get more oxygen into your blood.

There is nothing wrong being fit and healthy but when you start thinking a smoothie and a bit if exercise will solve all your problems then it's time to start exercising your brain too.

RobertKK · 13-03-2016 04:03PM

meeeeh wrote: »

100 times this. They are the new self help nonsense. Business problems - go for a run and you will be OK. Cancer - stop eating crabs and you will be fine. Tired - a bit of spinach will sort you out in no time. Oh and it's great to eat greens because photosynthesis in your stomach will get more oxygen into your blood.

There is nothing wrong being fit and healthy but when you start thinking a smoothie and a bit if exercise will solve all your problems then it's time to start exercising your brain too.

Every part of the body needs exercise.
I like smoothies but I make my own, because buying them is too expensive and a well made smoothie is so nice...

kjl · 13-03-2016 04:12PM

nkav86 wrote: »

Why is there a sudden need protein powder? Every person I know that has decided to eat better/get in shape has gone straight out to buy it, I thought eating correctly was the key? Maybe I just don't get it

When you are bulking, you need to consume large amounts of protein.

I am 210 pounds which means I need 210g of protein everyday. The drinks are just whey from milk, you're only meant have 1, maybe 2 a day and they are about 20g of protein.

I personally only use them just after the gym for convenience sake and I eat proper meat (chicken, turkey, fish) the rest of the time.

13-03-2016 04:34PM

All part of our Operation Transformation quick fix lifestyle.

Buy a nutri bullet and drink kale smoothies, practice mindfulness, do 3 gym sessions a week etc. etc. etc.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking people who go to the gym or eat kale at all, it's just the whole "I pay someone else to tell me how to do this", the whole industry, that makes me laugh. I guess if suckers want to be parted with their cash, it's their business.

Ice Maiden · 13-03-2016 04:37PM

I find exercise and healthy eating very beneficial - makes me sleep better, gives me more energy, makes my skin look better, my eyes look brighter, and definitely gives me a sense of wellbeing.
I don't know how it's a scam - isn't a scam being tricked into giving away your money? Surely people who spend money on fitness know what they're spending it on.

MightyMandarin · 13-03-2016 04:38PM

nkav86 wrote: »

Very true! I remember years ago I knew a guy that was extremely fit and healthy, he ate copious amounts of chicken breast (boiled), said it was part of his fitness routine or whatever, is it a way of cutting out the need for this type of eating? Do you need a f**kton of protein when working out and this is an easier alternative than constantly eating chicken? I don't know much about this kind of thing, I'm genuinely curious

It's just better. If I had the option of a protein shake or a chicken breast, I'd choose the chicken breast because it's less processed. That said, you could theoretically eat nothing but chocolate and protein shakes, and still look better as long as your calories were in check. It's just harder to do that than eating slower digesting carb sources.

Chicken is a source of protein, as are protein shakes, it doesn't matter if you eat your entire intake in one sitting (which would be very hard) or across the day, but as long as you get 0.8-1g per lb of bodyweight, you'll be grand.

strelok · 13-03-2016 04:38PM

what the hell is 'quick fix' about 3 gym sessions a week

meeeeh · 13-03-2016 04:49PM

Ice Maiden wrote: »

I find exercise and healthy eating very beneficial - makes me sleep better, gives me more energy, makes my skin look better, my eyes look brighter, and definitely gives me a sense of wellbeing.
I don't know how it's a scam - isn't a scam being tricked into giving away your money? Surely people who spend money on fitness know what they're spending it on.

Define healthy eating. Butter used to be ultimate evil, eggs were full of bad cholesterol and carbs were great. Now fats are great, carbs are evil and eating any other part of chicken but breast will make you fat. And at the same time over processed shakes with added sugar and sweeteners are magic potion.

People spend an enormous amounts of money on stuff that is supposed to be healthy without any critical evaluation. Smoothies are prime example, a lot of them are laced with sugar and usually just eating an apple would be way healthier. At the same time, as mentioned, every ex model is a healthy eating expert. Knowing how to pose doesn't make you a dietitian.

Ice Maiden · 13-03-2016 05:09PM

Healthy eating is limiting junkfood and sugar, and eating lots of vegetables.

Come on, people don't need to pretend to be that clueless.

meeeeh · 13-03-2016 05:12PM

Ice Maiden wrote: »

Healthy eating is limiting junkfood and sugar, and eating lots of vegetables.

Come on, people don't need to pretend to be that clueless.

Yeah that's what this thread is about. Sensible relaxed approach to eating and recreation.

13-03-2016 05:24PM

they see me liftin they hatin

lol

hawkwind23 · 13-03-2016 06:08PM

Healthy eating was when we had time to go to the shops and buy food and cook it.
Nowadays the message to get investment is that we have a workforce who do 60 hour weeks and ridicule anyone who works less.
We see no issue with dropping kids off at 6am at the minders before the 2 hour daily commute (consider how mental that is in a country the size of Ireland)
Society has changed so naturally our eating habits have changed.
I do blame the govt , they are the ones who give out planning permissions to the fast food joints and dictate working regulations

kneemos · 13-03-2016 06:12PM

No matter how beautiful you are we're all ugly on the inside.

Ruu · 13-03-2016 06:14PM

bluewolf wrote: »

they see me liftin they hatin

lol

Pshaw, wimmens don't lift heavy things.

ED E · 13-03-2016 06:18PM

Being overweight or obese is becoming more and more unfashionable. I'm delighted, its long over due. Not into fat shaming but telling 13yo kids with a BMI of 35 that they're "perfect and beautiful" is such an utter load of tripe.

If people are getting their act together then more power to them, its saving us fortunes in future HSE bills.

andekwarhola · 13-03-2016 07:51PM

irishguitarlad wrote: »

For me it's just yet another way for people to look for individuality, in this ever increasingly soulless world of instant gratification people are not willing to develop themselves internally because it takes a lot more time and effort. Everyone is searching for individuality but very few know that it comes from the inside.

You could make a few quid composing Tampax adverts.

Alf Stewart. · 13-03-2016 08:02PM

Haven't read the whole thread, but can I just chip in that I don't have the foggiest breeze of what the fug a macro is.

kneemos · 13-03-2016 08:04PM

Alf Stewart. wrote: »

Haven't read the whole thread, but can I just chip in that I don't have the foggiest breeze of what the fug a macro is.

Second that.

strelok · 13-03-2016 08:05PM

macronutrient, as opposed to micronutrient

macro - protein/carbohydrate/fat. the three main "segments" of a diet.
micro - magnesium, calcium, vitamin b6, etc etc

Richard Hillman · 13-03-2016 08:06PM

ED E wrote: »

Being overweight or obese is becoming more and more unfashionable. I'm delighted, its long over due. Not into fat shaming but telling 13yo kids with a BMI of 35 that they're "perfect and beautiful" is such an utter load of tripe.

If people are getting their act together then more power to them, its saving us fortunes in future HSE bills.

I remember a good few years back when James Corden (when he was fat) and Beth Ditto came onto the scene we were subjected to a nauseating media consensus that they were "inspiring".

Now we have this madness with Operation Transformation, Niall Brezzy Breslin and The Biggest Loser telling us that they were wrong all this time. Being "Fit" has become the new Fat.

I wish we could get to a stage where the consensus is "Dont get too fat and dont be a health fascist"

strelok · 13-03-2016 08:07PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

James Corden (when he was fat)

yesterday?

kneemos · 13-03-2016 08:08PM

strelok wrote: »

yesterday?

America's given him notions.

eet fuk · 13-03-2016 08:09PM

Alf Stewart. wrote: »

Haven't read the whole thread, but can I just chip in that I don't have the foggiest breeze of what the fug a macro is.

kneemos wrote: »

Second that.

You could google it and find out.
Is it cool to tell people that you don't know something while on the internet?

kneemos · 13-03-2016 08:13PM

eet fuk wrote: »

You could google it and find out.
Is it cool to tell people that you don't know something while on the internet?

Yes.Very cool.

13-03-2016 09:31PM

Shenshen wrote: »

People got soft, that's what happened.

All the fitness industry ever got out of me was money for a bicycle, a swimsuit and a pair of runners. But you have to put up with the Irish weather outdoors, so the weaklings retreat to the heated and dry safety of the gym and pool...

I also have a swimsuit, and a bike, and runners. I never use a treadmill. This morning I ran up a mountain for charity. I'm planning on doing a half iron man over Ben Nevis in Scotland next year.

I also go to the gym. Am I a "weakling"?

13-03-2016 09:32PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I also have a swimsuit, and a bike, and runners. I never use a treadmill. This morning I ran up a mountain for charity. I'm planning on doing a half iron man over Ben Nevis in Scotland next year.

I also go to the gym. Am I a "weakling"?

Yeah. State of ya

13-03-2016 09:32PM

bluewolf wrote: »

Yeah. State of ya

Do you even....Oh wait. You do.

kneemos · 13-03-2016 09:36PM

You're not actually running on a treadmill though are you,I mean you're not moving your body just your legs.

Fitness industry scam

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