His Royal Xurness - D2 Edition

gimli2112 · 26-02-2016 3:52pm

ItsHoggie wrote: »

Why 10 minutes though? Does it not reset after each game?

When 3OC first dropped we all went to a ship on Venus, killed the final boss, killed ourselves and rinsed and repeated. Bungie put a time limit on the 3Ocs as a result. Most of us had all/most of the exotics in a week.

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 26-02-2016 4:22pm

The way I see it, if you're playing I.B. tonight and you pop 3oC between each match, you're guaranteed a 310 exotic at the end of the night.

Possibly 2 exotics if you play long enough.

That being said, I keep forgetting to pop them, like a chump, and walk away with nowt!

akaSol · 26-02-2016 4:25pm

I've found a higher chance with 3oC when killing the taken ultras that spawn on patrol.

Mitch Connor · 04-03-2016 11:13am

Name Type Stats Cost
Mk. 44 Stand Asides Titan Leg Armor 44 Intellect // 40 Strength 13 SC
Graviton Forfeit Hunter Helmet 59 Intellect 13 SC
Nothing Manacles Warlock Gauntlets 56 Discipline 13 SC
Hawkmoon Hand Cannon 23 SC
Legacy Engram Primary Weapon Engram 31 SC

Don't need any of it myself but that is a good set on sale from snake face today.

High Intellect on the forfeit and High Discipline on the Manacles are two very good stat rolls, imo.

Hawkmoon ain't close to what it used to be though - still a fun gun to run around with a bit though.

gimli2112 · 04-03-2016 11:15am

Was just thinking how excited I used to be for Bohrio's post telling us what Xur had on a Friday morning. Typically posted about 5 minutes after he landed in the Tower. Remember when all this was just fields and Bohrio?

PetKing · 04-03-2016 11:20am

gimli2112 wrote:

Was just thinking how excited I used to be for Bohrio's post telling us what Xur had on a Friday morning. Typically posted about 5 minutes after he landed in the Tower. Remember when all this was just fields and Bohrio?

He farmed these fields and the ones in the next town over very well! Not surprised he's taking a well earned break (I hope!)

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 04-03-2016 12:55pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Name Type Stats Cost
Mk. 44 Stand Asides Titan Leg Armor 44 Intellect // 40 Strength 13 SC
Graviton Forfeit Hunter Helmet 59 Intellect 13 SC
Nothing Manacles Warlock Gauntlets 56 Discipline 13 SC
Hawkmoon Hand Cannon 23 SC
Legacy Engram Primary Weapon Engram 31 SC

Don't need any of it myself but that is a good set on sale from snake face today.

High Intellect on the forfeit and High Discipline on the Manacles are two very good stat rolls, imo.

Hawkmoon ain't close to what it used to be though - still a fun gun to run around with a bit though.

I need everything there except for the Legacy engram

syboit · 04-03-2016 1:08pm

got lucky, thorn from the second legacy I popped.

AbusesToilets · 04-03-2016 1:27pm

Why are Xur's rolls so low? Pain in the arse.

gimli2112 · 04-03-2016 1:33pm

Don't they start low but will rank up to 70 something ?

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 04-03-2016 1:52pm

They're way lower than any other exotic I have...
Their ranked up stat is equal to the base stat of my other exotics.

AdamD · 04-03-2016 2:37pm

Once you buy them you have the blueprints and can buy more in the tower with different rolls though? Or use those needles

DaveNoCheese · 05-03-2016 11:15am

Got thorn and hard light from my two legacy engrams

Yakuza · 07-03-2016 12:06pm

Why are legacy engrams so expensive? Are they Y1 weapons (with 160-170 light stats)?
I generally buy 35 coins worth of 3OC. This weekend I learned how to use them properly and farmed the Scourge of Winter mission. From about 12 runs (using 25 3OC), I got 5 engrams (Primary (310 Hawkmoon), Secondary (310 Hereafter), Heavy (rolled a 310 TruthThorn, now am 313 light yaay) and two 310 gauntlets. By leaving a gap between popping of approx. 6-7 mins, I managed to score in one day more engrams than I'd got in the previous month. (I'd been popping 6-7 at a time and then raging when I didn't get a drop - I'd been using them incorrectly).

So, for a little more than the price of 1 legacy (and the time taken to do it, of course) I managed to get my max light from 311.8 to 313.3, upgraded to a 310 Hawkmoon from a 294 as well as getting some infusion material (the gauntlets and dismantling the old Hawkmoon).

Generic Dreadhead · 07-03-2016 12:10pm

Yakuza wrote: »

Why are legacy engrams so expensive?

2 reasons, they are only really for collectors and secondly they basically have a VERY high chance of rolling an Exotic you never have/had. So it's a good way of getting a Red Death etc to be unlocked at the Exotic iPhone shop

Are they Y1 weapons (with 160-170 light stats)?

AFAIK yes

TitianGerm · 07-03-2016 12:32pm

Yakuza wrote: »

Heavy (rolled a 310 Thorn

I think your telling lies and should tell the Truth :P

Yakuza · 07-03-2016 12:35pm

emmetkenny wrote: »

I think your telling lies and should tell the Truth :P

Lol yes, had "Thorn" on my mind. 310 Truth

quad_red · 09-03-2016 6:16pm

Yakuza wrote: »

This weekend I learned how to use them properly and farmed the Scourge of Winter mission. From about 12 runs (using 25 3OC), I got 5 engrams (Primary (310 Hawkmoon), Secondary (310 Hereafter), Heavy (rolled a 310 TruthThorn, now am 313 light yaay) and two 310 gauntlets. By leaving a gap between popping of approx. 6-7 mins, I managed to score in one day more engrams than I'd got in the previous month. (I'd been popping 6-7 at a time and then raging when I didn't get a drop - I'd been using them incorrectly). .

Wait wait wait... how exactly are you doing that? When in the mission and how many 3OCs do you pop per run on Scourge?

nevelator · 09-03-2016 6:23pm

quad_red wrote: »

Wait wait wait... how exactly are you doing that? When in the mission and how many 3OCs do you pop per run on Scourge?

At the end of the mission where you have kill the end boss. Get his health really low, stand beside him with a Rocket launcher and kill him and yourself at the same time. You restart the checkpoint -- at the entrance to the boss's room. Any exotics engrams that may have dropped will be available to pick up. It's boring but you get exotics and is also a good way to get ether seeds if you are short (for buying heavy ammo from Variks).
I think the cool down for 3OC is around 10mins.

Generic Dreadhead · 10-03-2016 5:07pm

Good thread about 3oC

Over 500 3oC The overall drop rate was 1 Exotic per 4.98 3oCs or 20.08%.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/49toq2/my_data_from_501_3ocs_and_the_resultant_100/

AdamD · 10-03-2016 6:09pm

When I use them after every Trials game its more like 1 in 15. Dunno if its broken for Crucible or if Trials matches aren't long enough

TitianGerm · 10-03-2016 6:55pm

Cormac... wrote: »

Good thread about 3oC

Over 500 3oC The overall drop rate was 1 Exotic per 4.98 3oCs or 20.08%.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/49toq2/my_data_from_501_3ocs_and_the_resultant_100/

I just pop one at the start of every Crucible match if I remember.

Seems to be a good hit rate. And it was a nice addition to the game.

Mitch Connor · 11-03-2016 10:11am

Name Type Stats Cost
An Insurmountable Skullfort Titan Helmet 33 Discipline // 36 Strength 13 SC
Achlyophage Symbiote Hunter Helmet 35 Intellect // 32 Discipline 13 SC
Heart of the Praxic Fire Warlock Chest Armor 81 Discipline 13 SC
Exotic Engram Helmet Engram 19 SC
Legacy Engram Helmet Engram 29 SC

Might pick up a couple of helmet engrams to put in storage til the spring update (have no idea if there are any exotic helms left to be released)

Yakuza · 11-03-2016 4:33pm

quad_red wrote: »

Wait wait wait... how exactly are you doing that? When in the mission and how many 3OCs do you pop per run on Scourge?

What I did was to pop one every 5-6 mins, normally at the start of the mission and then (if I got to the boss quickly enough, just before getting to Draksis) (I've read elsewhere it's 10 mins is the minimum time needed between pops, might try that this weekend). I didn't bother killing myself at the same time as finishing off the boss (well, not intentionally anyway!), so that when I hit the boss I'd have either one or two popped. I got 5 engrams over 13 runs (spending 25 3oC on them in total). I didn't farm it continuously, i might do 2/3 runs, then go and do a strike and then come back.

Cormac... wrote: »

Good thread about 3oC

Over 500 3oC The overall drop rate was 1 Exotic per 4.98 3oCs or 20.08%.

That would be consistent with my experience (5 engrams for 25 coins)

(For the first week of 3oC, there was no cooldown period so people were killing the boss and themselves, resetting to before the encounter, popping another 3oC, hoovering up any exotic that dropped from the last time, rinse repeat...). The cooldown was brought in to prevent this.

What I had been doing before was popping 5-6 at a time before hitting an ultra on any strike I'd been doing, and only getting the odd exotic, so that was completely wrong.

The 3oC effect stacks, but only if you leave a gap between popping them of (what looks now to be) 10 mins, and it's wiped once you have an exotic drop. I suspect you should still leave at least 10 mins between pops even if you've just gotten an exotic.

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 11-03-2016 4:50pm

So if the effect stacks, should you be constantly popping 3oC?

Pop them every time you do something, regardless of whether you're killing an ultra.
Then when you do kill an ultra, you can get the benefits of having the stacked several coins?

Generic Dreadhead · 11-03-2016 5:00pm

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

Pop them every time you do something, regardless of whether you're killing an ultra.

No, only pop them ONCE per Ultra kill OR ONCE every 10 minutes of Crucible (weather that be every 1 or 2 games time depending)

Pi$$ing around in Patrol for 45 minutes and popping 3 3oC in that time won't me jack S**t

If you pop a 3oC and kill and Ultra and get NOTHING consider that a Check.... the more "Checks" you earn, the higher the chance the next time you'll get something.

As you can see, mostly 8 consecutive 3oC will net something as you've built up 7 "checks/ticks/whatever"

Only once did his/her "Checks" stack up to 14 before getting something on the 15th run

Serbian · 11-03-2016 6:17pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Might pick up a couple of helmet engrams to put in storage til the spring update (have no idea if there are any exotic helms left to be released)

You can check in the Bungie Armory. Glancing through the list there, I can see five four helmets that are rated as 310 that aren't in year 2.

ATS/8 Arachnid (Hunter)
Eternal Warrior (Titan)
The Glasshouse (Titan)
Astrocyte Verse (Warlock)
Skull of Dire Ahamkara (Warlock) (Turns out this one is already in Y2 after all)

Generic Dreadhead · 11-03-2016 6:20pm

^ The Skull is Year 2 (I have a Year 2 one)

Serbian · 11-03-2016 6:34pm

Cormac... wrote: »

^ The Skull is Year 2 (I have a Year 2 one)

Ah cool, cheers, didn't recognise it (rarely play as a Warlock). I'll knock it off the list so.

runawaybishop · 14-03-2016 11:56am

Cormac... wrote: »

No, only pop them ONCE per Ultra kill OR ONCE every 10 minutes of Crucible (weather that be every 1 or 2 games time depending)

Pi$$ing around in Patrol for 45 minutes and popping 3 3oC in that time won't me jack S**t

If you pop a 3oC and kill and Ultra and get NOTHING consider that a Check.... the more "Checks" you earn, the higher the chance the next time you'll get something.

As you can see, mostly 8 consecutive 3oC will net something as you've built up 7 "checks/ticks/whatever"

Only once did his/her "Checks" stack up to 14 before getting something on the 15th run

The cool down is separate for each character, so you can go to dreadnaught patrol, kill that ultra knight and then change character and rinse and repeat.

gimli2112 · 14-03-2016 12:02pm

I went through about ten 3OCs yesterday and nothing dropped. Then was in the Tower and there were two exotics in the postmaster - must have been blind.
Oh and the NF was painful this week.

PetKing · 14-03-2016 12:52pm

I'm getting in to the habit of popping them in the thrall circle during the Oryx battle. Many wipes on Oryx can have their upside!

AbusesToilets · 14-03-2016 1:09pm

That's where I would get drops most consistently. Crucible is very inconsistent for the 3oC. I find I'll get maybe one drop per session of playing.

syboit · 14-03-2016 1:32pm

gimli2112 wrote: »

I went through about ten 3OCs yesterday and nothing dropped. Then was in the Tower and there were two exotics in the postmaster - must have been blind.
Oh and the NF was painful this week.

Didnt mind the nightfall this week, ran it a few times to get the strike exclusive stuff. Found it easier using bubble titan vs self-res warlock. I saw only a couple exotics drop as rewards, rest was 290-304 legendary stuff.

gimli2112 · 14-03-2016 1:34pm

I had a few wipes on the NF. Was fine if you had a bubble titan - trying it with three hunters was not a good idea

DrumSteve · 14-03-2016 1:36pm

Picked up the insurmountable skullfort; not seeing too much of a difference yet. Tempted to stick with the Taikonaut for the time being.

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 14-03-2016 2:13pm

Serbian wrote: »

Astrocyte Verse (Warlock)

I thought this was one of the exotics which wasn't released yet?
Any idea when these exotics are going to be added in?

14-03-2016 2:57pm

No word from the powers that be.
Best guess(s), the Spring update (or the one after that)

Yakuza · 14-03-2016 3:29pm

gimli2112 wrote: »

I went through about ten 3OCs yesterday and nothing dropped. Then was in the Tower and there were two exotics in the postmaster - must have been blind.
Oh and the NF was painful this week.

This weekend I got not one, but two exotics from one Draksis kill. I'd never seen that before (it was my second run (nothing dropped the previous run) and I had two 3oCs active (popped > 10 mins apart). He'd never dropped two rare ones before for me, let alone legendary or exotic. Ended up with a 310 No Land Beyond and another ATS/8 BP, infused the NLB into my Zhalo (now 307).

Overall, I got 4 exotics from 13 3oC, a decent haul.

On a side note, the Zhalo I infused was 300, became 307. A while later I infused 297 boots with 310 boots, they also became 307. I guess it depends on what type of equipment you're infusing? Can anyone point me at a site that calculates light post-infusion given a starting position and an infusion amount? I'll have a look around later on when I'm home from work.

gimli2112 · 14-03-2016 3:32pm

http://www.destinyinfused.com/

Think I got two exotics in one drop once. Infusion calculator above.

PetKing · 14-03-2016 4:28pm

Yakuza wrote:

On a side note, the Zhalo I infused was 300, became 307. A while later I infused 297 boots with 310 boots, they also became 307. I guess it depends on what type of equipment you're infusing? Can anyone point me at a site that calculates light post-infusion given a starting position and an infusion amount? I'll have a look around later on when I'm home from work.

Exotic infusion works differently afaik, and takes a bit more to up the light.

syboit · 14-03-2016 5:25pm

PetKing wrote: »

Exotic infusion works differently afaik, and takes a bit more to up the light.

yeah, exotics lose 20% of the LL when going up.

Something like, legendary 304+310 = new 310, exotic 304+310=308 new exotic. That site also has an app you can get on your phone.

syboit · 25-03-2016 11:13am

Legacy Primary engram today's, time to try for your "thorns" again. He's also selling invective again, just in time Iron Banner next week.

Generic Dreadhead · 25-03-2016 11:34am

Name Type Stats Cost
Empyrean Bellicose Titan Helmet 30 Discipline // 36 Strength 13 SC
Crest of Alpha Lupi Hunter Chest Armor 75 Intellect 13 SC
Alchemist's Raiment Warlock Chest Armor 48 Intellect // 43 Strength 13 SC
Invective Shotgun 17 SC
Legacy Engram Primary Weapon Engram 31 SC

PetKing · 25-03-2016 2:14pm

Just to confirm, the legacy primary COULD drop Dregs Promise yeah?

Generic Dreadhead · 25-03-2016 2:16pm

PetKing wrote: »

Just to confirm, the legacy primary COULD drop Dregs Promise yeah?

For a while there was a bug where that's pretty much ALL it dropped

But Dregs is a secondary not Primary

PetKing · 25-03-2016 2:39pm

Cormac... wrote:

For a while there was a bug where that's pretty much ALL it dropped But Dregs is a secondary not Primary

Ah balls, I missed that boat? Is Dregs not the PoE hand cannon?

25-03-2016 3:18pm

Nah, it's a sidearm

DrumSteve · 25-03-2016 6:04pm

Just as an aside, whats the difference between the legacy engram and the exotic?

25-03-2016 6:32pm

Legacy engrams are for year one exotics, and are capped at year one levels.
Regular exotic engrams give you exotics that are in year two, and can be infused to 320 (335 after April update)

His Royal Xurness - D2 Edition

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