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Age of the universe

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  • #92
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    hinault wrote: »
    That's incorrect too.

    How so? In what way does a baby have free will?


  • #93
    cardinal tetra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 299 ✭✭cardinal tetra


    Apologies, i was on a pilgrimage.

    Now, where were we?


  • #94
    MrPudding
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,779 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    cardinal tetra wrote: »
    Apologies, i was on a pilgrimage.

    Now, where were we?
    We were here, you appear to be somewhere in the bronze age.

    MrP


  • #95
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 52,164 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    MOD NOTE

    daveyeh carded for trolling.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #96
    lazybones32
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    It's lovely to see moderators moderating.


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  • #97
    cardinal tetra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 299 ✭✭cardinal tetra


    MrPudding wrote: »
    We were here, you appear to be somewhere in the bronze age.

    MrP


    does it annoy you that much? does it really annoy you that soeone can be part of a club that makes them happy and that they believe in? if you have a favorite toy and everyone says its <snip>, does that by default make your toy <snip> and you no longer want to play with it? just because you dont agree with other people doesnt give you the omnipotent right to tell people what is or is not fact. you know more know what the universe is made of than the man in the moon. it is all guess work as much as any religion or scientific theory. but to come in and denounce someones beliefs without being knowledgable on the subject is down right rude and oafish in its own capacity.

    i wont keep you waiting, you must have some children you would like to putstraight on the easter bunny and the tooth fairy.

    I hope you find happiness somewhere in life. let others have theres. and if you have a little pray just before the light goes out, no one will judge you. because thats the good thing to do.


  • #98
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    And only just out on parole...

    :rolleyes:


  • #99
    cardinal tetra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 299 ✭✭cardinal tetra


    feck, i thought i put a 1 in them. sorry about that. wasnt intentional.


  • #100
    solodeogloria
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭solodeogloria


    Safehands wrote: »
    100 years after they were first predicted by Albert Einstein, ripples in space time have finally been detected. Scientists have hailed this discovery as the biggest scientific breakthrough of the century.
    These ripples have taken a billion years to get here.
    How do Young Earth creationists feel about this discovery, given that it puts to bed, the suggestion that the Universe is only 10,000 years old?

    Hi OP,

    Admittedly - I find it really sad that the prevailing assumption about Christians is that they are anti-science. I find it even more sad that it isn't entirely unfounded to be honest.

    I'm very thankful to God for Christians in Science, Biologos and other groups which are committed to saying no one needs to reject modern science to follow the Lord Jesus.

    That's not to say that there aren't aspects that are difficult or that every question can be answered.

    Some can't - for example I'm still trying to work out how death could happen before the Fall (based on Romans 5 for example where it says that death entered the world through Adam). Even though questions like this remain I don't think we should pit science and Christianity as enemies but rather use the former to fuel our prayerful thanks and awe to the Lord and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ who brought everything into being.

    I'd love to hear your thoughts!

    Much thanks in Christ,
    solodeogloria


  • #101
    cardinal tetra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 299 ✭✭cardinal tetra


    christianity and science cant operate as friends. there is too much bad blood between them and there is such a divide between history, faith, logic and belief that i dont think you they can ever be bedfellows. the world is such a cycnical place now that the word of the lord is now nothing more that a scurilous cult, cast adrift in a sea of Iphones and sin.


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  • #102
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    cardinal tetra wrote: »
    christianity and science cant operate as friends. there is too much bad blood between them and there is such a divide between history, faith, logic and belief that i dont think you they can ever be bedfellows. the world is such a cycnical place now that the word of the lord is now nothing more that a scurilous cult, cast adrift in a sea of Iphones and sin.
    1. Bull. Of course they can. One nice example would be Guy Consolmagno, the Vatican's astronomer, and author of the very useful Turn Left at Orion.

    2. What does 'cycnical' mean?


  • #103
    The Chieftain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭The Chieftain


    Seems to me that this and several other threads are just a form of trolling, with "science" as the bait. I thought this was the Christianity forum, not one dedicated to cosmology or general relativity, or indeed to be a playground for antagonistic atheists getting their jollies.


  • #104
    J Mysterio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,661 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    The Chieftain wrote: »
    Seems to me that this and several other threads are just a form of trolling, with "science" as the bait. I thought this was the Christianity forum, not cosmology or general relativity.

    It's all relative.


  • #105
    The Chieftain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭The Chieftain


    OP - the exact date of the creation of the world is contained in The King James Bible. It is October 23, 4004 BC. The King James Version is officially Authorized by the British government - hence the name "Authorized Version" - and therefore inerrant.


  • #106
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    The Chieftain wrote: »
    OP - the exact date of the creation of the world is contained in The King James Bible. It is October 23, 4004 BC. The King James Version is officially Authorized by the British government - hence the name "Authorized Version" - and therefore inerrant.

    There's a lot of stuff contained in that 'inerrant' tome that is demonstrably not true.

    :)


  • #107
    Second Toughest in_the Freshers
    Site Banned Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭Second Toughest in_the Freshers


    you could almost say that its in'erently false...


  • #108
    pauldla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭pauldla


    The Chieftain wrote: »
    OP - the exact date of the creation of the world is contained in The King James Bible. It is October 23, 4004 BC. The King James Version is officially Authorized by the British government - hence the name "Authorized Version" - and therefore inerrant.

    Really? Even the 'BC' bit? Most remarkable, do you have a link please?


  • #109
    The Chieftain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭The Chieftain


    pauldla wrote: »
    Really? Even the 'BC' bit? Most remarkable, do you have a link please?

    Why yes, the link is available by visiting your local Church.


  • #110
    Second Toughest in_the Freshers
    Site Banned Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭Second Toughest in_the Freshers


    Ussher, Yeah (yeah. yeah)


  • #111
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    The Chieftain wrote: »
    Why yes, the link is available by visiting your local Church.

    Anglican Church, I presume...?

    :D


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  • #112
    The Chieftain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭The Chieftain


    endacl wrote: »
    Anglican Church, I presume...?

    :D

    I did say Church, not chapel..


  • #113
    pauldla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭pauldla


    The Chieftain wrote: »
    Why yes, the link is available by visiting your local Church.

    My nearest church is part of the Patriotic Association, and thus has no truck with such things as King James Bibles (or, most likely, anything authorized by the British Government, though they probably make exceptions for things involving Curly Fu, who is remarkably popular in this neck of the woods).


  • #114
    The Chieftain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭The Chieftain


    pauldla wrote: »
    My nearest church is part of the Patriotic Association, and thus has no truck with such things as King James Bibles (or, most likely, anything authorized by the British Government, though they probably make exceptions for things involving Curly Fu, who is remarkably popular in this neck of the woods).

    Well, we all have our problems, don't we?


  • #115
    pauldla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭pauldla


    The Chieftain wrote: »
    Well, we all have our problems, don't we?

    I don't see my situation as a problem; certainly not compared to those poor misguided ill-informed wretches who insist that the world is 6000 years old.


  • #116
    The Chieftain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭The Chieftain


    pauldla wrote: »
    I don't see my situation as a problem; certainly not compared to those poor misguided ill-informed wretches who insist that the world is 6000 years old.

    Then why are you here in this forum? Trying to raise your blood pressure? Or just trolling the nice old fuddy-duddy Christians?

    In my old school days we were taught to respect the religious consciences and beliefs of others, no matter how wrong we thought they were. That long predated the modern affectation for commanding tolerance and inclusivity for the preferences of the "progressives". Of course that tolerance and inclusivity does not apply to to traditionalists and Christians - they can be insulted and dismissed as "misguided ill-informed wretches".


  • #117
    topmanamillion
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭topmanamillion


    How old is the universe?
    14 billion years.
    Close thread.


  • #118
    pauldla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭pauldla


    The Chieftain wrote: »
    Then why are you here in this forum? Trying to raise your blood pressure? Or just trolling the nice old fuddy-duddy Christians?

    You call it trolling; I call it wondering why a version of the bible would contain references to modern dating conventions. You did not offer any link to support your claim, instead telling me to go to a church (though I note you have no qualms about asking for links yourself). I pointed out that this would not do, and you replied with a very unhelpful comment indeed. So, who is trolling who?


  • #119
    The Chieftain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭The Chieftain


    pauldla wrote: »
    You call it trolling; I call it wondering why a version of the bible would contain references to modern dating conventions. You did not offer any link to support your claim, instead telling me to go to a church (though I note you have no qualms about asking for links yourself). I pointed out that this would not do, and you replied with a very unhelpful comment indeed. So, who is trolling who?

    You seriously need a link for the bible? This really is trolling on the grand scale.

    p.s. I think the bible is a tad more available than the Royal Charter for the CofI - of course, you may disagree.


  • #120
    robdonn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭robdonn


    The Chieftain wrote: »
    OP - the exact date of the creation of the world is contained in The King James Bible. It is October 23, 4004 BC. The King James Version is officially Authorized by the British government - hence the name "Authorized Version" - and therefore inerrant.

    Chapter and verse for this info?


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  • #121
    The Chieftain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭The Chieftain


    robdonn wrote: »
    Chapter and verse for this info?

    At some point, the demands to be spoon fed become unreasonable. At that point I tend to say that I will leave this as an exercise for the student.


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