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Mother of five recovering from cancer taken to jail after not paying her tv license

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    #32
    FalconGirl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭FalconGirl


    Whosthis wrote: »
    If she's that hard up she could probably do with flogging the TV to put an extra few quid in her pocket.

    For real or a troll? Not speaking about this particular case but what if its one of her few remaining enjoyments a recovering cancer victim has with little money in their pockets would you still expect them to sell the tv to pay the licence?

    I'd like to think the state is human enough to turn a blind eye in exceptional cases or delay the payment until person is back to full health.


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    #33
    Whosthis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Whosthis


    FalconGirl wrote: »
    For real or a troll? Not speaking about this particular case but what if its one of her few remaining enjoyments a recovering cancer victim has with little money in their pockets would you still expect them to sell the tv to pay the licence?

    I'd like to think the state is human enough to turn a blind eye in exceptional cases or delay the payment until person is back to full health.

    You're asking if she should sell the TV to pay for a TV licence and wondering if I'm a troll?

    Just sounds like she could do with a few quid, flog the TV.


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    #34
    demanufactured
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    BreadnBuddha wrote: »
    Can't afford a TV license? Then you can't afford to have a TV.

    Same as having a car and not taxing it.

    Same as taking a train and not buying a ticket.

    No sympathy for her. They should have flogged the TV and let the kids watch stuff on the laptop. Students the world over do just that every bloody day.

    Just watch now, when everyone goes mad making excuses for her and crying OUTRAGE while ignoring the fact that the license is a tax and she was caught dodging it while the rest of us pay our dues.

    It's the likes of these eejits who expose themselves to prosecution (instead of ditching the telly) who screw everyone else. She's old enough to remember the 1980's in Ireland when plenty of people didn't have a telly because times were tough and they couldn't afford one.

    All her own, and her husbands making.

    Alright alright Enda. ..We get it.


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    #35
    BreadnBuddha
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭BreadnBuddha


    FalconGirl wrote: »
    Left out of work with cancer and fallen on hard times. Its a very common occurrence. Hopefully you never experience it.

    In this case I doubt the TV licence is high up on her priorities. It can happen. Cop onto yourself and show some compassion.

    I've had 3 close relatives die of cancer including 2 grandparents who still managed to get their TV license stamps when they were ill. No time for anyone using cancer as an excuse for dodging paying a bill they OPTED to have.


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    #36
    Hans Bricks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hans Bricks


    A license to watch a ****ing TV. A black box with pixels on it. Say it back to yourself and listen to how absurd it sounds. People aren't causing wear and tear on irish infrastructure by using a TV and not giving money to RTE.


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    #37
    Whosthis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Whosthis


    Hans Bricks wrote: »
    A license to watch a ****ing TV. A black box with pixels on it. Say it back to yourself and listen to how absurd it sounds. People aren't causing wear and tear on irish infrastructure by using a TV and not giving money to RTE.

    How do you think RTE is funded?


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    #38
    marsbar1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭marsbar1


    I thought that in Ireland the TV licence is a relatively new thing. I thought that in the 80's there was no TV tax. Anyhow RTE is a joke, quite how they expect people to have a TV and watch their poor programmes and by happy to pay for them for it is beyond me when there are so many other foriegn channels that don't take a penny of this tax. More people should take a stand and refuse to pay it. The system is outdated. RTE should be encrypted with a a viewing card for those who want to pay for it. If its that great then there will no shortage of paying viewers won't there?....


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    #39
    demanufactured
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    Whosthis wrote: »
    How do you think RTE is funded?

    feck RTE. ...absolute drivel.


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    #40
    Whosthis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Whosthis


    marsbar1 wrote: »
    I thought that in Ireland the TV licence is a relatively new thing. I thought that in the 80's there was no TV tax. Anyhow RTE is a joke, quite how they expect people to have a TV and watch their poor programmes and by happy to pay for them for it is beyond me when there are so many other foriegn channels that don't take a penny of this tax. More people should take a stand and refuse to pay it. The system is outdated. RTE should be encrypted with a a viewing card for those who want to pay for it. If its that great then there will no shortage of paying viewers won't there?....
    It was the 60s and prior to that you needed a wireless receiver licence.


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    #41
    BreadnBuddha
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭BreadnBuddha


    marsbar1 wrote: »
    I thought that in Ireland the TV licence is a relatively new thing. I thought that in the 80's there was no TV tax. Anyhow RTE is a joke, quite how they expect people to have a TV and watch their poor programmes and by happy to pay for them for it is beyond me when there are so many other foriegn channels that don't take a penny of this tax. More people should take a stand and refuse to pay it. The system is outdated. RTE should be encrypted with a a viewing card for those who want to pay for it. If its that great then there will no shortage of paying viewers won't there?....

    Blah blah RTE drivel blah blah.

    You don't pay for a TV license to watch RTE.

    You pay a TV license to have a TV.

    Watch what you want but if that's via a TV, you need a license.

    Everything else, from cancer to Tubridy's salary has NOTHING to do with whether or not you are legally obligated to pay for the license.


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    #42
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,203 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    marsbar1 wrote: »
    I thought that in Ireland the TV licence is a relatively new thing. I thought that in the 80's there was no TV tax. Anyhow RTE is a joke, quite how they expect people to have a TV and watch their poor programmes and by happy to pay for them for it is beyond me when there are so many other foriegn channels that don't take a penny of this tax. More people should take a stand and refuse to pay it. The system is outdated. RTE should be encrypted with a a viewing card for those who want to pay for it. If its that great then there will no shortage of paying viewers won't there?....

    It's about 3 quid a week, not exactly going to break the bank to pay it.

    Anyone who doesn't pay it is getting a service the rest of us have to pay for so I'm glad they get caught.


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    #43
    Hans Bricks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hans Bricks


    Whosthis wrote: »
    How do you think RTE is funded?

    A rather obvious answer. Tell me ...

    What's the difference between a person who owns no TV (therefore exempting themselves from a license obligation) and someone who uses their TV for purposes strictly unrelated to consuming RTE content ?

    It's kind of like being told you will.be taxing a car that will just sit in a driveway for its lifespan.


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    #44
    Whosthis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Whosthis


    Hans Bricks wrote: »
    A rather obvious answer. Tell me ...

    What's the difference between a person who owns no TV (therefore exempting themselves from a license obligation) and someone who uses their TV for purposes strictly unrelated to consuming RTE content ?

    It's kind of like being told you will.be taxing a car that will just sit in a driveway for its lifespan.

    The difference is that the person without a TV doesn't need a licence, the person with a TV does.


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    #45
    Hans Bricks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hans Bricks


    Whosthis wrote: »
    The difference is that the person without a TV doesn't need a licence, the person with a TV does.

    And the logic of taxing someone to sit in front of a stationary object is ?


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    #46
    Whosthis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Whosthis


    Hans Bricks wrote: »
    And the logic of taxing someone to sit in front of a stationary object is ?

    For some people, that's all they do, at least they make some kind of contribution.


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    #47
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,617 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Hans Bricks wrote: »
    And the logic of taxing someone to sit in front of a stationary object is ?


    The logic is it supports public service broadcasting across all the Irish networks.


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    #48
    esforum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭esforum


    FalconGirl wrote: »
    For real or a troll? Not speaking about this particular case but what if its one of her few remaining enjoyments a recovering cancer victim has with little money in their pockets would you still expect them to sell the tv to pay the licence?

    I'd like to think the state is human enough to turn a blind eye in exceptional cases or delay the payment until person is back to full health.

    Why are you presuming Cancer patients are poor?

    My grandmother died from Leukemia and my uncle is still recovering, neither had to stop paying their TV license fees.

    And as has been pointed out. You dont get dragged from the sitting room to jail

    You get a call at the door

    you get a written letter

    you get a warning

    you get a summons

    you get a fine

    you go to jail

    Exctly how manu times should people be allowed ignore the law and suit themselves before action is taken? Presumable as shes poor, we shouldnt deducat at source and as shes sick she cant do community service so hey, **** it.Away with ya and by the way, you are now immune from prosecution for no reason other than a completely irelevent illness.


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    #49
    colossus-x
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭colossus-x


    Clandestine wrote: »
    Licence fee should be removed. There should be no state funded tv whatsoever

    I agree. In the UK the license fee goes to the BBC who have no commercials. The RTE player and the RTE channels are bombarded and infested with commercials. I think the advertisers should expect a huge increase in their fees for advertising for the profit they make off it. And ditch the licences fee completely.


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    #50
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    MilesMorales1 wrote: »
    Good to see the government has its priorities right.

    What's it got to do with the government?


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    #51
    KungPao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭KungPao


    I got a TV licence once.


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    #52
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,297 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    colossus-x wrote: »
    I've gotten away with it for years. Just don't answer the doorbell when your not expecting anyone.
    They are tracking you down this very minute through your boards account. After paying the fine you'll be sitting in your underpants eating cornflakes while watching television :)


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    #53
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,370 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    esforum wrote: »
    My grandmother died from Leukemia and my uncle is still recovering, neither had to stop paying their TV license fees

    I guess if you got that news of such illness yourself, the tv licence would be the first thing on your mind.


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    #54
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,617 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Bruthal wrote: »
    I guess if you got that news of such illness yourself, the tv licence would be the first thing on your mind.


    It would after the many warnings and particularly the court summons.


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    #55
    L.Jenkins
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    Clandestine wrote: »
    Licence fee should be removed. There should be no state funded tv whatsoever

    If we don't pay for RTE, who will be the State spin Doctors? :P


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    #56
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,370 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    Because tv is a basic right like water and electricity and food and paying for it is a breach of human rights.

    Law is optional and you get to choose which ones to obey and which not to.

    My one is out a few weeks. Am I choosing which laws to obey also?

    Do you ever break any what so ever? Or is this perfect law abiding citizen thing just for the others on boards to see and appreciate?


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    #57
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,370 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    kneemos wrote: »
    It would after the many warnings and particularly the court summons.

    Yea, im sure it would.


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    #58
    Taco Chips
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Taco Chips


    esforum wrote: »
    Why are you presuming Cancer patients are poor?

    My grandmother died from Leukemia and my uncle is still recovering, neither had to stop paying their TV license fees.

    And as has been pointed out. You dont get dragged from the sitting room to jail

    You get a call at the door

    you get a written letter

    you get a warning

    you get a summons

    you get a fine

    you go to jail

    Exctly how manu times should people be allowed ignore the law and suit themselves before action is taken? Presumable as shes poor, we shouldnt deducat at source and as shes sick she cant do community service so hey, **** it.Away with ya and by the way, you are now immune from prosecution for no reason other than a completely irelevent illness.

    Well illness and especially debilitating conditions like cancer cause people a lot of hardship; financial, emotional and the rest of it. Money is eaten up in a lot of ways, on treatment not immediately covered by the state like private PETs, CTs, on travel costs and accommodation for people who are coming from rural areas to specialist centres, on hiring home help, physiotherapy, psychological support etc... Some people need to spend a lot of money to have their homes refitted to their new needs. The point is very often the state doesn't cover a lot of these costs or can't do so in a time frame suitable for the patient so it's paid out of pocket. Unsurprisingly all these costs will take precedence and there just mightn't be anything left over to pay the tv licence and top up the pensions of Ryan Tubridy, Marian Finucane, David McSavage and the other assortment of assholes in Montrose.


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    #59
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    BreadnBuddha wrote: »
    Can't afford a TV license? Then you can't afford to have a TV.

    Same as having a car and not taxing it.

    Same as taking a train and not buying a ticket.

    No sympathy for her. They should have flogged the TV and let the kids watch stuff on the laptop. Students the world over do just that every bloody day.

    Just watch now, when everyone goes mad making excuses for her and crying OUTRAGE while ignoring the fact that the license is a tax and she was caught dodging it while the rest of us pay our dues.

    It's the likes of these eejits who expose themselves to prosecution (instead of ditching the telly) who screw everyone else. She's old enough to remember the 1980's in Ireland when plenty of people didn't have a telly because times were tough and they couldn't afford one.

    All her own, and her husbands making.

    22 posts before the usual. Not bad, all told.


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    #60
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,370 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    BreadnBuddha wrote: »
    Compassion doesn't pay for public services.

    If it did, I`d say you`d pay nothing.


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    #61
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,018 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    It's about 3 quid a week, not exactly going to break the bank to pay it.

    Anyone who doesn't pay it is getting a service the rest of us have to pay for so I'm glad they get caught.

    what service are they getting. the rest of us choose to pay for this so called service by having a tv. what happened to this woman was a waste of everyones time and money and achieved nothing.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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