Age of the universe

Akrasia · 20-02-2016 09:29AM

cardinal tetra wrote: »

It is gods will.

You take without asking. Spend without thinking. You destroy every natural resource that has been God given and then you expect to be rewarded for it. The world was created for man. Man is trying to destroy it. Man is failing God. May God have mercy on our souls. Amen

Oh, you actually are serious.

Hey, can i ask, if god exists and he wants us to believe in him, why would he 'test our faith' by deliberately putting evidence against his existence everywhere

It seems like your god wants to be not believed in. Every time you pray to him you're just making him madder and madder.

Akrasia · 20-02-2016 09:41AM

di11on wrote: »

What I mean is that science describes the natural and religion the supernatural. And by supernatural, I don't mean ghosts and miracles - I mean a hypothesised "everything" outside of, external to and imperceivable from the physical universe. However you define the universe I can hypothesize that as a box within another "super universe" which is external to your definition.

Science tries to answer questions about how the universe works in order to advance our civilisation

Religion tries to think of questions that have no answers in order to justify it's own existence

Science tries to solve mysteries, Religion tells us that mysteries are wonderful and we should enjoy them (this is usually the last ditch answer when they've every other part of the argument)

Akrasia · 20-02-2016 09:47AM

A scientist predicted a hundred years ago that if we build big enough and sensitive enough instruments, we will be able to measure ripples in very fabric of space time.

The bible predicted that the 2nd coming of christ would be within the lifetimes of the characters in the Bible. 2000 years later we're still waiting.

"Matthew 16:28 “I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” 23:36 “I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.” 24:34 “I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.”

Delirium · 20-02-2016 09:50AM

Akrasia wrote: »

Oh, you actually are serious.

Hey, can i ask, if god exists and he wants us to believe in him, why would he 'test our faith' by deliberately putting evidence against his existence everywhere

It seems like your god wants to be not believed in. Every time you pray to him you're just making him madder and madder.

MOD NOTE

Just FYI, that poster is site-banned so you won't be getting a response to your post.

hinault · 20-02-2016 06:21PM

Akrasia wrote: »

The bible predicted that the 2nd coming of christ would be within the lifetimes of the characters in the Bible. 2000 years later we're still waiting.

"Matthew 16:28 “I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” 23:36 “I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.” 24:34 “I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.”

The quotes you supplied don't make the claims that you suggest.

topmanamillion · 21-02-2016 04:34PM

hinault wrote: »

The quotes you supplied don't make the claims that you suggest.

Incorrect.

hinault · 21-02-2016 08:03PM

topmanamillion wrote: »

Incorrect.

And who here asked you?

topmanamillion · 21-02-2016 08:21PM

hinault wrote: »

And who here asked you?

Oh grow up, it's a public forum and I'm a member I'm more than entitled to express an opinion.

hinault · 21-02-2016 08:28PM

topmanamillion wrote: »

Oh grow up, it's a public forum and I'm a member I'm more than entitled to express an opinion.

Nobody asked you, and that's the correct answer.

You've just earned your place on my ignore list. Well done.

PlainP · 21-02-2016 08:32PM

topmanamillion wrote: »

Oh grow up, it's a public forum and I'm a member I'm more than entitled to express an opinion.

opinion
[uh-pin-yuh n]
noun
1.
a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2.
a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

What you gave was not an opinion.

robdonn · 21-02-2016 08:48PM

hinault wrote: »

Nobody asked you, and that's the correct answer.

You've just earned your place on my ignore list. Well done.

Please try to stop being so childish, this is not your forum.

MrPudding · 21-02-2016 11:02PM

robdonn wrote: »

Please try to stop being so childish, this is not your forum.

I am pretty sure you are already on his extensive ignore list. It is quite easy to get onto. His behaviour reminds me of my children when they were about 6, you know, before they grew up...

MrP

topmanamillion · 21-02-2016 11:11PM

Will ye stop! It's too late for me but maybe you both can continue to experience such enlightened posts as
"incorrect" and "incorrect too".

robdonn · 22-02-2016 12:06AM

MrPudding wrote: »

I am pretty sure you are already on his extensive ignore list. It is quite easy to get onto. His behaviour reminds me of my children when they were about 6, you know, before they grew up...

MrP

I had assumed that I was until earlier today when he tried to smugly correct a non-existent spelling error in one of my posts. But I'm sure that he can no longer respond as his fingers have been firmly placed back in his ears.

Second Toughest in_the Freshers · 22-02-2016 02:57AM

hinault wrote: »

The quotes you supplied don't make the claims that you suggest.

What do they say, then?

J Mysterio · 22-02-2016 04:01AM

I'm J Mysterio and I approve of this thread.

galljga1 · 22-02-2016 04:11AM

It's always good to get a chuckle from Hinault and his "it's my ball and I'm going home" tactics.

Akrasia · 22-02-2016 09:25AM

hinault wrote: »

The quotes you supplied don't make the claims that you suggest.

I'm pretty sure that they do, but do you mind explaining what they actually do refer to if I'm wrong?

Delirium · 22-02-2016 09:56AM

hinault wrote: »

And who here asked you?

MOD NOTE

Less of the abrasive posting please.

Try to remember this is a public discussion forum and as a result posters will potentially respond to your posts unsolicited.

So please try to keep to the topic instead of the type of response you gave above.

Thanks for your attention.

galljga1 · 22-02-2016 10:02AM

I wonder are there any mods on the ignore list.

sbsquarepants · 22-02-2016 10:18AM

cardinal tetra wrote: »

So is questioning someone's beliefs because you feel you are right because someone with a laser pointer in America told you that they can hear the moment a world hole collided with another. You watch too much star trek with your ion capacitors and your warp drives and your science. It's all a load of prefabricated nonsense to discredit the church and the word of the lord.

But but but the big bang I hear you type ferociously into your keypad.

Explain with your lido waves what was there before the creation of the universe? Nothing? Nothing is something? Where did nothingness come from. Where did it all begin.

Your mental if you believe the earth is billions of years old. May you find peace in God.

Has to be a wind up - but it's so hard to tell sometimes.

Everything has to have a maker....therefore god. Who made him so? Well obviously god doesn't need a maker, just everything else.:rolleyes:

hinault wrote: »

God grants man free will.

The fact that folks are starving on this planet is man's doing.

You don't think that a hamburger tree or a soup lake would help though?
I can guarantee that if 1 single hamburger tree or soup lake suddenly appeared in the middle of a famine zone - people would stop questioning the existence of god and start following his rules.
It's almost as if the story of his endless love and kindness is made up. Either that or he's too busy pranking his kids by planting fake fossils and gravitational waves in far flung corners of the universe to plant a hamburger tree and stop them from starving to death. That's just bad parenting!

galljga1 · 22-02-2016 12:11PM

Hamburger tree, mmm.

frag420 · 22-02-2016 02:39PM

galljga1 wrote: »

Hamburger tree, mmm.

There should be a branch in every town across the land....

Elemonator · 22-02-2016 02:42PM

Ah sure, they'll find other straws to cling to. Life is one big conspiracy after all

galljga1 · 22-02-2016 06:35PM

frag420 wrote: »

There should be a branch in every town across the land....

Aw, leaf it out.

hinault · 22-02-2016 08:12PM

Second Toughest in_the Freshers wrote: »

What do they say, then?

Ask the poster who posted the statements.

hinault · 22-02-2016 08:14PM

Delirium wrote: »

MOD NOTE

Less of the abrasive posting please.

Try to remember this is a public discussion forum and as a result posters will potentially respond to your posts unsolicited.

So please try to keep to the topic instead of the type of response you gave above.

Thanks for your attention.

That wasn't abrasive.

robdonn · 22-02-2016 10:55PM

hinault wrote: »

That wasn't abrasive.

endacl · 22-02-2016 11:12PM

galljga1 wrote: »

It's always good to get a chuckle from Hinault and his "it's my ball and I'm going home" tactics.

As opposed to 'I have the balls to argue my position like a grown up'?

Kiwi in IE · 23-02-2016 12:35AM

MrPudding wrote: »

I am pretty sure you are already on his extensive ignore list. It is quite easy to get onto. His behaviour reminds me of my children when they were about 6, you know, before they grew up...

MrP

He told me I was on it a while ago and then the other day responded to one of my posts. I think it's just a tactic to avoid being challenged with unanswerable questions. It's the next course of action after 'God did it/mysterious ways/free will' doesn't satisfy the other poster.

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