Alcohol thread

jester77 · 21-02-2016 11:55AM

I'm not a fan of the Irish drinking mentality but I was guilty of partaking during my 20's. Weekends were based around the pub, with half the weekend a write off. Whatever I did on a Saturday was always followed by the pub, and Sunday spent not being 100%.

I thought I enjoyed it at the time, but now that I can look back with a more mature head, it was such a waste. These days I drink to enjoy the drink, can't remember the last time I was really drunk and I can fully enjoy Sundays.

Alcohol is overly abused in Ireland, and most people won't admit and some will even try and justify it.

tomwaterford · 21-02-2016 12:13PM

Between work,farm and nixers...I work like 6 days a week (bare minimum on Sunday's admittedly)

So I'm usually too wreaked to make it out on a Saterday night and try to enjoy myself on a Sunday and I will in my fcuk spend my one day off hungover

Graces7 · 21-02-2016 12:15PM

Yara Poor Monument wrote: »

At 31 I'm enjoying my drinking and getting drunk as much now as I ever did, probably more as I can afford the nights out every week (and all say sessions once in a while)more now than I could say in my early 20's.

Very worried about you young man.

21-02-2016 12:17PM

Thinking of having / going on the beer already, just had a quick line in bed ! Advice please.

tomwaterford · 21-02-2016 12:19PM

6541 wrote: »

Thinking of having / going on the beer already, just had a quick line in bed ! Advice please.

Go for it?

** never take advise off strangers you don't know

Sunnyisland · 21-02-2016 12:24PM

6541 wrote: »

Thinking of having / going on the beer already, just had a quick line in bed ! Advice please.

A quick line ?? As in the Coke line :-) sure may go for it and go out and enjoy yourself and report back here in the morning for the Monday postmortem...

Ice Maiden · 21-02-2016 12:53PM

I have enough drinks to get me tipsy (hate getting drunk) every week or second week. I don't get a hangover and my next day is not a write-off. I enjoy doing things without drink also.
I don't see the logic in what some are saying here - they have/had a drink problem, or alcohol abuse has a damaging effect on society (I agree it does) so any drinking at all is problematic?

Some of us can enjoy drink in moderation without any ill effects. It's not right to blanket demonise alcoholic drink. Alcoholic drinks alone are not the problem, abuse of them/dependency on them is.

21-02-2016 01:57PM

tomwaterford wrote: »

Between work,farm and nixers...I work like 6 days a week (bare minimum on Sunday's admittedly)

So I'm usually too wreaked to make it out on a Saterday night and try to enjoy myself on a Sunday and I will in my fcuk spend my one day off hungover

One week night out and one weekend night out would be a fairly normal week for me. Though there are weeks where there could be a few week nights out. Better to be hungover in work than on a day off as the man says

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Last heavy session was a few weeks ago, Session Thursday night after work, session Friday night after work, pub Saturday from 2pm for the day and night and Sunday morning till evening for the cure. Some craic of a weekend.

Graces7 wrote: »

Very worried about you young man.

Why are you worried? I'm enjoying life and make no apologies for it.

osarusan · 21-02-2016 01:59PM

I have a hangover.

Lady is a tramp · 21-02-2016 02:44PM

osarusan wrote: »

I have a hangover.

I'm all Benzo'd up, it's kind of like being happily tipsy but without the hangover, whoo!

thattequilagirl · 21-02-2016 03:22PM

Ice Maiden wrote: »

I have enough drinks to get me tipsy (hate getting drunk) every week or second week. I don't get a hangover and my next day is not a write-off. I enjoy doing things without drink also.
I don't see the logic in what some are saying here - they have/had a drink problem, or alcohol abuse has a damaging effect on society (I agree it does) so any drinking at all is problematic?

Nobody has said that I can see.

kleefarr · 21-02-2016 04:37PM

Graces7 wrote: »

Very worried about you young man.

It's his life. Shame, but he does what he wants as long as it's within the law.

21-02-2016 04:59PM

kleefarr wrote: »

It's his life. Shame, but he does what he wants as long as it's within the law.

What's a shame? Not getting the angle here. Just because I enjoy drinking and have great times doing it (along with my my friends and work colleagues I might add) I'm to be pitied?

tomwaterford · 21-02-2016 07:10PM

Yara Poor Monument wrote: »

One week night out and one weekend night out would be a fairly normal week for me. Though there are weeks where there could be a few week nights out. Better to be hungover in work than on a day off as the man says .

Last heavy session was a few weeks ago, Session Thursday night after work, session Friday night after work, pub Saturday from 2pm for the day and night and Sunday morning till evening for the cure. Some craic of a weekend.

Why are you worried? I'm enjoying life and make no apologies for it.

Being fair....you couldn't do my job hungover it would kill ya

21-02-2016 07:20PM

tomwaterford wrote: »

Being fair....you couldn't do my job hungover it would kill ya

I was regularly hungover in very physically demanding jobs on building sites when I worked there during college and am no stranger to working hungover on the farm at home either.

My job isn't physically demanding now but is very mentally challenging and you often are stuck in meetings etc too. It's not as much easier as you would think but grated it's it easier than physical work.

the evasion_kid · 21-02-2016 07:42PM

Drumpot wrote: »

Like some of the comments on this thread, I remember a time when I couldn't imagine a remotely interesting life without drink. In fact I couldn't imagine a life with any relief or break from constant anxiety/depression.

Giving up alcohol only keeps an alcoholic physically sober but it doesn't make them emotionally sober. The AA rooms are important in helping an alcoholic deal with their mannerisms, reconnecting with life and dealing with life as it happens. An alcoholic who abstaines from drink can be scarier then one who doesn't if they don't have therapy or support in dealing with sobriety of life.

Some people think AA is just people sitting around talking about alcohol and just repeating depressing stories. Most of it is about the strength and hope that can be attained in the rooms. People usually share their bad experiences so the newcomers can identify and see that they aren't alone in the madness surrounding the illness.

In many regards, It's a support group for like minded people who feel completely at odds with the world. For many it's a direct substitute for alcohol. For most who are lucky enough to get it, it represents hope and a solution to a better life.

Considering the knock on effects it can have in people's lives (families saved from a lifetime of torture) , it's a real shame that few people really understand the programme of AA and the insidious nature of the disease.

How many people don't find the rooms or recommend the rooms for people who need it because they simply don't understand the nature of the illness and the AA solution? It's not a cult and it's not a religious fest. It's a support group of like minded individuals trying to learn a more meaningful/balanced/happy way to live without hurting themselves or others.

alcoholism is the strengthening of the reward pathways in the brain,the more you drink the more the pathways get strenghtened,every sip endorphins get released,id say its more a compulsion than anything else,AA has worked for a lot of people but id rather but my faith in science,i was a pretty severe alcoholic two years ago,went on the dry after it nearly killed me,but was still left with the mental obsesssion and lifetime worth of cravings ahead of me and the relapses every so often.im in thailand at the minute were you can buy a drug naltrexone(opiod antagonist)over the counter which basically blocks the euphoric high or release of endorphins in the brain from alcohol,take it an hour before you drink and youll be lucky to finish 3 bottles of beer because the high the brain is seeking just isnt there,do it enough times and the same reward pathways youve strenghtened through years of drinking begin to become extinct,basically de-addicting yourself or rewiring the brain to pre-alcoholic days,im four weeks in and drinking like a moderate drinker,infact im walking away leaving full bottles of beer,which was unheard of back in the bad old days of drinking bottles of vodka raw and puking it back up all over my shoes.....but still going back for more

Ice Maiden · 21-02-2016 07:44PM

Yara Poor Monument wrote: »

What's a shame? Not getting the angle here. Just because I enjoy drinking and have great times doing it (along with my my friends and work colleagues I might add) I'm to be pitied?

I don't think they're referring to you enjoying drink but to the way you say you regularly get destroyed from it.

tomwaterford · 21-02-2016 07:54PM

Yara Poor Monument wrote: »

I was regularly hungover in very physically demanding jobs on building sites when I worked there during college and am no stranger to working hungover on the farm at home either.

My job isn't physically demanding now but is very mentally challenging and you often are stuck in meetings etc too. It's not as much easier as you would think but grated it's it easier than physical work.

My job is both physical demanding and mentally challenging (in that you need to be 100% tuned in as so much as a small tiny mistake could take 6 hours to reverse...seen it happen lad last week!)

Though being honest there's only 1 job I could never imagine doing hungover that's primary teaching or anything to do with young kids

** it should be said at this point I used get horrendously tired/weak when hungover...know many who drink a lot regularly and deosnt knock a shake outta them...just not me

jacksie66 · 21-02-2016 08:00PM

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L.Jenkins · 21-02-2016 08:19PM

This report from the HSE shows some alarming figures with respect to alcohol consumption here in Ireland.

http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/publications/topics/alcohol/Alcohol%20Related%20Harm%20in%20Ireland.pdf

21-02-2016 08:26PM

Ice Maiden wrote: »

I don't think they're referring to you enjoying drink but to the way you say you regularly get destroyed from it.

I don't think I used the word destroyed. I get drunk regularly no doubt but I wouldn't be what I consider "destroyed" that often.

Ice Maiden · 21-02-2016 08:34PM

Yara Poor Monument wrote: »

I don't think I used the word destroyed. I get drunk regularly no doubt but I wouldn't be what I consider "destroyed" that often.

I suppose they mean drinking to the point of hangover though, and getting drunk twice a week. That last heavy session you describe is pretty full-on!

But a lot of people drink to that extent, and then into their 30s it fizzles out as they just cannot handle it any more.

andekwarhola · 21-02-2016 08:40PM

Believe it or not, there's a third enjoyable alcohol place between smug moralistic teetotallers and hardened drinkers.

tomwaterford · 21-02-2016 09:14PM

andekwarhola wrote: »

Believe it or not, there's a third enjoyable alcohol place between smug moralistic teetotallers and hardened drinkers.

Normal people's ??

ToddyDoody · 21-02-2016 09:24PM

andekwarhola wrote: »

Believe it or not, there's a third enjoyable alcohol place between smug moralistic teetotallers and hardened drinkers.

If everyone in The British Isles stopped drinking, or only drank very little, there wouldn't be much nightlife. It is largely fuelled by alcohol.

21-02-2016 09:29PM

Ice Maiden wrote: »

I suppose they mean drinking to the point of hangover though, and getting drunk twice a week. That last heavy session you describe is pretty full-on!

Even drunk though is a very relative term, when some people think of drunk they mean falling around the place, getting sick, causing trouble etc. Drunk to me is having plenty of drink taken, talking a bit of sh1te and feeling a bit worse for wear the next day. Rarely does it involve getting sick and even rarer falling around.

As for my last heavy session, that's far far from one of the heaviest sessions I've been on.

21-02-2016 09:47PM

Yara Poor Monument wrote: »

Last heavy session was a few weeks ago, Session Thursday night after work, session Friday night after work, pub Saturday from 2pm for the day and night and Sunday morning till evening for the cure. Some craic of a weekend...

Ouch! That's a session alright.

Couldn't do it now. Have gone from 4 nights out a week, with 2 heavy ones that could involve parties till 5 or 6, to once every few weeks, home for midnight. But had a great run at it, pretty much 20 years till baba arrived.

Wouldn't say I was an alcoholic at all, it was always more about the craic than the drink. But it was classic uncontrolled drinking, just couldn't do the 3 pints and home thing, had to be the last to leave the pub, the last at the party.

Ice Maiden · 21-02-2016 09:51PM

Yara Poor Monument wrote: »

As for my last heavy session, that's far far from one of the heaviest sessions I've been on.

Not sure how that changes the fact that the session you mentioned is a very full-on one!

John_Rambo · 21-02-2016 10:48PM

Yara Poor Monument wrote: »

One week night out and one weekend night out would be a fairly normal week for me. Though there are weeks where there could be a few week nights out. Better to be hungover in work than on a day off as the man says .

Last heavy session was a few weeks ago, Session Thursday night after work, session Friday night after work, pub Saturday from 2pm for the day and night and Sunday morning till evening for the cure. Some craic of a weekend.

Why are you worried? I'm enjoying life and make no apologies for it.

That's my idea of a weekend wasted and a boring lifestyle of pubs, TV and bed. Zero craic. I drink (probably too much) but that carry on would be too much for me. I couldn't function properly and you couldn't do my job like that. But... each to their own.

suicide_circus · 21-02-2016 11:28PM

ToddyDoody wrote: »

If everyone in The British Isles stopped drinking, or only drank very little, there wouldn't be much nightlife. It is largely fuelled by alcohol.

It's our culture, boss.

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