Alcohol thread

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Luckyfran wrote: »

Which is to be commended, however for the majority of irish people adult and young alcohol is a staple to deny is burying yer head in the sand. Itzy

Are you for real? There you go generalising again. Not the majority at all.

Luckyfran

Interesting graph.

Stonedpilot

Incredibly destructive drug it buries people day in day out and robs people of their sanity in excess. Two guys said to me in the past drink did more damage to them than heroin ever did and was harder to give up too. I've over drank many times in the past and drinking excessively can cause serious serious depression and anxiety, I should know.Should just call it suicide juice.

Luckyfran

Stonedpilot wrote: »

Incredibly destructive drug it buries people day in day out and robs people of their sanity in excess. Two guys said to me in the past drink did more damage to them than heroin ever did and was harder to give up too. I've over drank many times in the past and drinking excessively can cause serious serious depression and anxiety, I should know.Should just call it suicide juice.

I drink to excess often other than a dry mouth i have gr8 craic

Stonedpilot

Luckyfran wrote: »

I drink to excess often other than a dry mouth i have gr8 craic

If you drink to excess regularly Trust me it can be craic but one day tomorrow, next week, 20 years from now I guarantee you'll realise the party is over and the fun dries up quicker than your mouth!. Then your chasing the party which is well and truly over, you've a choice to make then.

Penny Tration

Luckyfran wrote: »

I drink to excess often other than a dry mouth i have gr8 craic

Continue for a few more years, get some liver function tests done, then come back and say the only problem is a dry mouth.


I don't understand the need to get super drunk. I did it now and then when I was a teenager, and I very stupidly drank while on medication at about 21 and woke up in hospital, that gave me a massive wake up call (and some lovely permanent scarring from the cuts when I fell and knocked myself out).

Now (I'm 26), it's a few glasses of wine over a few hours, with dinner or while watching a box set. The most I've gotten is a little tipsy, if I haven't eaten enough.

So much nicer, more fun, no hangovers. It's so much nicer a way to enjoy alcohol.

Luckyfran

If you have a predisposition to alcoholism dont drink. I respect that. But please dont preach

Penny Tration

Luckyfran wrote: »

If you have a predisposition to alcoholism dont drink. I respect that. But please dont preach

Getting locked occasionally and realising it's not something you enjoy is now a predisposition to alcoholism? Would you stop. Bar one poster (fair play for kicking it, realies!), nobody else here has alluded to a drinking problem, just a desire to avoid getting locked like a 15 year old with their first naggin.

It's childish. Eventually you grow up.

Bongalongherb

I love the beer, I don't drink spirits at all but I will have a few glasses on a christmas only. I'm what you would call a happy alcoholic, I never get angry or drunk, I just love the beer and cannot get drunk on the cans or bottles and I never drink in a pub, gave it up a long time ago because there were too many drunks.

Show me an 8 pack of Tuborg and I will show you the biggest smile you ever saw . I'm the complete opposite of many folk that drink, I just love it. Ahh that was nice... a nice chilled pint of Tuborg just hit my lips just there, refreshing and a nice mild euphoria. I enjoy myself with or without beer but I enjoy myself with beer and lots of it, it just makes me very happy.

I despise slurring of folk's speech that have drank alcohol, bloody amateurs and no decent conversation from them at all.

Let the beer begin, happiness all-round. Luscious tasting stuff indeed.

May the beer be with you, always.

PARlance

Luckyfran wrote: »

Most weekends i do ground hog day. However how feckin boring would life be without an aul drink.

Your weekends are groundhog days and you're worried that it would be boring if things were different?

L.Jenkins

Penny Tration wrote: »

Getting locked occasionally and realising it's not something you enjoy is now a predisposition to alcoholism? Would you stop. Bar one poster (fair play for kicking it, realies!), nobody else here has alluded to a drinking problem, just a desire to avoid getting locked like a 15 year old with their first naggin.

It's childish. Eventually you grow up.

I, myself, have been arrested and cautioned for excessive drinking and a public disorder. That was my great wake up call. It's not just health issues associated with excessive drinking, but social issues as well.

Penny Tration

Itzy wrote: »

I, myself, have been arrested and cautioned for excessive drinking and a public disorder. That was my great wake up call. It's not just health issues associated with excessive drinking, but social issues as well.

It takes a strong person to realise it's a problem and stop. Fair play to you.

Luckyfran

I accept alcohol is destructive for people who have a weakness for alcohol but most vast majority enjoy with no issues

Bongalongherb

If a person can't handle alcohol then they should not drink ever, especially if they are causing a nuisance and getting arrested. In this case it is not for you. Some folk can handle it very well and never have a problem with things like this.

Sunnyisland

Bongalongherb wrote: »

If a person can't handle alcohol then they should not drink ever, especially if they are causing a nuisance and getting arrested. In this case it is not for you. Some folk can handle it very well and never have a problem with things like this.

That's very true, but unfortunately it's usually after the alcohol has got a grip into you that the problem starts and your usually the last to know through denials and blaming everyone and everything else, and by then your ****ed.

Sunnyisland

Luckyfran wrote: »

I accept alcohol is destructive for people who have a weakness for alcohol but most vast majority enjoy with no issues

Yea I could agree with that ok,but I would like more of an education about the dangers of alcohol abuse in schools from an early age.as it does a lot of damage to this country and not just to the problem drinkers etc but there families etc etc

Badly Drunk Boy

Luckyfran wrote: »

I accept alcohol is destructive for people who have a weakness for alcohol but most vast majority enjoy with no issues

People's 'weakness for alcohol' can develop gradually over the years. You might even realise that when you get out of your teenage years.

elperello

This constant reference to "drinking alcohol" is becoming tiresome.In truth we don't drink pure alcohol and if we did we wouldn't be around for long to tell the tale. Really, having a drink is about enjoying the fruits of the craft of the brewer, the skill of the winemaker, the genius of the distiller. It's about enjoying yourself responsibly either in good company or alone and it's nobody's business except your own.

tinpib

Luckyfran wrote: »

If you have a predisposition to alcoholism dont drink. I respect that. But please dont preach

It seems like you'd prefer that people only preach about the positives of drinking alcohol but not the negatives?

L.Jenkins

Luckyfran wrote: »

I accept alcohol is destructive for people who have a weakness for alcohol but most vast majority enjoy with no issues

Bongalongherb wrote: »

If a person can't handle alcohol then they should not drink ever, especially if they are causing a nuisance and getting arrested. In this case it is not for you. Some folk can handle it very well and never have a problem with things like this.

Issues with Alcohol do become apparent after 1 or 2 binge sessions on the booze. I was not an alcoholic and I didn't depend on it, but when I did drink, I drank to excess and that is the problem with most who drink. People all to often drink to excess and get injured, tying up Emergency Rooms, start fights over stupid things or get arrested, tying up Garda time, that could be used to do something else or treat People who didn't intentionally inflect injuries upon themselves through Alcohol consumption.

Most of you aren't getting the point. There's nothing wrong with drinking one or two. When it becomes a weekly binge, that's when problems begin to show, which then may put a strain on public services.

Luckyfran

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

People's 'weakness for alcohol' can develop gradually over the years. You might even realise that when you get out of your teenage years.

Im 34 have great realationship with drink Respect

L.Jenkins

elperello wrote: »

This constant reference to "drinking alcohol" is becoming tiresome.In truth we don't drink pure alcohol and if we did we wouldn't be around for long to tell the tale. Really, having a drink is about enjoying the fruits of the craft of the brewer, the skill of the winemaker, the genius of the distiller. It's about enjoying yourself responsibly either in good company or alone and it's nobody's business except your own.

That's all well and good, but most People don't sit down to appreciate the time and effort put into making these drinks.

Bongalongherb

realies wrote: »

That's very true, but unfortunately it's usually after the alcohol has got a grip into you that the problem starts and your usually the last to know through denials and blaming everyone and everything else, and by then your ****ed.

It's shocking that a human being has no self control. They are given a brain and as such should use it.

kfallon

I like a drink! I work 9-5 Monday to Friday and often do some sort of exercise on weekday evenings so I like to unwind on the weekends with a few pints and catch up with friends.

I like to go out on a Saturday afternoon, obviously my levels of drunkenness can vary from session to session. I don't cause trouble when I'm drunk. Tbh I couldn't give a shiny shíte if people think I drink too much or not enough when I go out. It works for me and that's all that matters!

tinpib

kfallon wrote: »

It works for me and that's all that matters!

I think that's the important thing. Do whatever works for you.

ceadaoin.

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I remember a now banned poster of a similar name to yours. He sounded like he was suffering from alcoholism, I believe cider was his drink of choice. Had a young kid too, which made the whole thing quite sad.

Ah yes, the guy who was mystified why his wife had an issue with him spending all weekend drinking cider until he passed out. Denial is a powerful thing. I'm not sure many people who genuinely have a normal relationship with alcohol go to such great lengths to justify their use of it

L.Jenkins

Bongalongherb wrote: »

It's shocking that a human being has no self control. They are given a brain and as such should use it.

So much easier said than done. If that were the case, we'd all achieve 600 points in the Leaving Cert. We wouldn't have a need for fad diets with great self control. We wouldn't no Bank Loans as we could put our minds to save the money quickly. We could do so much with that mind set, but that's not how it works sadly and if it did, we could tell every person contemplating most crimes with impulse control problems to develop self control, thus removing our need for prisons as well.

Sunnyisland

Bongalongherb wrote: »

It's shocking that a human being has no self control. They are given a brain and as such should use it.

If it was only that easy, you do no that alcohol is addictive yes ? And I have quite a good brain thanks and certainly know how to use it but nothing can prepare you for alcoholism and if you think for one minute that by just using self control and it's all good, well then it's you that needs to use the brain.

Luckyfran

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Ah yes, the guy who was mystified why his wife had an issue with him spending all weekend drinking cider until he passed out. Denial is a powerful thing. I'm not sure many people who genuinely have a normal relationship with alcohol go to such great lengths to justify their use of it

As long as ur happy

Bongalongherb

Itzy wrote: »

So much easier said than done. If that were the case, we'd all achieve 600 points in the Leaving Cert. We wouldn't have a need for fad diets with great self control. We wouldn't no Bank Loans as we could put our minds to save the money quickly. We could do so much with that mind set, but that's not how it works sadly and if it did, we could tell every person contemplating most crimes with impulse control problems to develop self control, thus removing our need for prisons as well.

With saying that... If I can do it I cannot see why others can't. I'm not special at all but I have good self control, and if I feel that I am getting a little too drunk I stop immediately and then go on the bottled water and then to sleep. Everything we have learned from growing up is there to implement self-control, but a lot of folk just seem oblivious to this natural order, I struggle to understand why folk cannot logically understand the basics of their well-being, and others as it affects others as well.