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Eir rural FTTH thread

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  • #152
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭rob808


    The funny thing is you could be sort either by eir or nbp who ever get to you first :).


  • #153
    pegasus1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭pegasus1


    rob808 wrote: »
    The funny thing is you could be sort either by eir or nbp who ever get to you first :).

    There would be nothing to stop them installing it as all they would say is they are upgrading their existing network....even if nbp rolled out here first


  • #154
    Latro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭Latro


    KOR101 wrote: »


    Additionally, open eir has committed to rolling out Fibre to the Home (FTTH) technology that offers speeds of up to 1,000Mb/s in a further six Kilkenny locations that include; Coon, Glenmore, Johnswell, Kells, Kilmoganny and The Rower.

    http://fibrerollout.ie/open-eirs-fibre-rollout-in-kilkenny/

    Does it mean that these 6 locations get FTTH by the end of this year or by the end of 2020?


  • #155
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,081 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Latro wrote: »
    Does it mean that these 6 locations get FTTH by the end of this year or by the end of 2020?

    2020 is my reading


  • #156
    JohnC.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,547 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    Yeah, it says 2020 a bit further down the page.

    But all the premises along the blue lines on the map are supposed to be by 2020 also and it's a lot more than those 6 communities.


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  • #157
    legocrazy505
    Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭legocrazy505


    That's Eir for you, they love their nice numbers and optimistic announcements but it doesn't result in swift action.


  • #158
    KOR101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    Something stirring here..................

    Telecoms firm Eir is pushing ahead with a plan to provide high-speed broadband to 300,000 homes earmarked for the rural broadband scheme.

    The move poses a serious challenge to the Government’s intervention strategy as EU state aid rules forbid an intervention if a private operator is already supplying the market.

    The Department of Communication plans to award two subsidised contracts for the rollout of broadband to 757,000 homes in rural Ireland later this year.

    Eir, however, told The Irish Times it expects to have up to 100,000 of these homes connected to its new fibre network by the end of this year, with a further 200,000 connected over the following three years.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/eir-s-broadband-plan-poses-challenge-to-government-strategy-1.2545856


  • #159
    pegasus1
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    nothing new though...


  • #160
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,081 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    pegasus1 wrote: »
    nothing new though...


    True, Eir have not committed to anything as yet
    “No additional commercial plans have been submitted since the 2020 map was launched in December 2015, nor has any commitment agreement been signed by any operator,”

    They sure are stirring the pot though :)


  • #161
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    just noticed now that when I enter my phone number into the eir fibre checker that it says that its not available in my area which has always been the case but when i enter the same number into the eir extreme fibre checker it says that fibre is available in the area but line isn't activated yet. I presume this is a total mistake or am i reading too much into it thinking maybe I might get efibre extreme within the next year.


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  • #162
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭rob808


    Gonzo wrote: »
    just noticed now that when I enter my phone number into the eir fibre checker that it says that its not available in my area which has always been the case but when i enter the same number into the eir extreme fibre checker it says that fibre is available in the area but line isn't activated yet. I presume this is a total mistake or am i reading too much into it thinking maybe I might get efibre extreme within the next year.
    it probably a mistake how far are you from your exchange it say on mine eir Fibre available but not at my address.


  • #163
    KOR101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    pegasus1 wrote: »
    nothing new though...
    Target of 100,00 by year end is definitely new. When you tie it in with what was said by the CEO at the results, something concrete looks like it is going to happen..


  • #164
    Ould Mr Brennan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭Ould Mr Brennan


    KOR101 wrote: »
    Something stirring here..................

    Telecoms firm Eir is pushing ahead with a plan to provide high-speed broadband to 300,000 homes earmarked for the rural broadband scheme.

    The move poses a serious challenge to the Government’s intervention strategy as EU state aid rules forbid an intervention if a private operator is already supplying the market.

    The Department of Communication plans to award two subsidised contracts for the rollout of broadband to 757,000 homes in rural Ireland later this year.

    Eir, however, told The Irish Times it expects to have up to 100,000 of these homes connected to its new fibre network by the end of this year, with a further 200,000 connected over the following three years.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/eir-s-broadband-plan-poses-challenge-to-government-strategy-1.2545856

    The 100,000 done by the end of the year certainly raised my eyebrow. I would love if it was true but I have my suspicions about that just being a play for the NBP. Hope I'm wrong though as it would be a huge boost for rural Ireland and would show a huge commitment from eircom


  • #165
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,081 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Ould Mr Brennan wrote: »
    The 100,000 done by the end of the year certainly raised my eyebrow. I would love if it was true but I have my suspicions about that just being a play for the NBP. Hope I'm wrong though as it would be a huge boost for rural Ireland and would show a huge commitment from eircom

    Unless they sign a binding commitment to commercially service the 'blue line' areas then they will face competition in those areas from whoever wins the NBP contract/s ....... might be themselves :)


  • #166
    Cheerful Spring
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    KOR101 wrote: »
    Something stirring here..................

    Telecoms firm Eir is pushing ahead with a plan to provide high-speed broadband to 300,000 homes earmarked for the rural broadband scheme.

    The move poses a serious challenge to the Government’s intervention strategy as EU state aid rules forbid an intervention if a private operator is already supplying the market.

    The Department of Communication plans to award two subsidised contracts for the rollout of broadband to 757,000 homes in rural Ireland later this year.

    Eir, however, told The Irish Times it expects to have up to 100,000 of these homes connected to its new fibre network by the end of this year, with a further 200,000 connected over the following three years.


    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/eir-s-broadband-plan-poses-challenge-to-government-strategy-1.2545856

    Now how they going to do this when people in rural areas, can only get fibre exchange broadband? Further people are from the exchange the worse the connection is.

    To be honest all this is is Eir keeping us stuck in the dark ages. They don't want to lose rural customers to a different network! They have a monopoly in rural areas theres no competition and this is Eir trying to protect that. They wouldn't care if people where still using phone lines in 2030 for broadband.


  • #167
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭rob808


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    Unless they sign a binding commitment to commercially service the 'blue line' areas then they will face competition in those areas from whoever wins the NBP contract/s ....... might be themselves :)
    who ever win NBP they can go anywhere Eir have plan to do FTTH.It mainly because eir never sign any commitment forums doh it make it harder for winning bidder they have to risk manage it.


  • #168
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭rob808


    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    Now how they going to do this when people in rural areas, can only get fibre exchange broadband? Further people are from the exchange the worse the connection is.

    To be honest all this is is Eir keeping us stuck in the dark ages. They don't want to lose rural customers to a different network! They have a monopoly in rural areas theres no competition and this is Eir trying to protect that. They wouldn't care if people where still using phone lines in 2030 for broadband.
    It the wisp that have a monopoly over rural Ireland.The main reason eir doing the FTTH to rural ribbon areas and very small villages is because of NBP.I guess they are scared they won't win any of the NBP so better some of the pie than none.


  • #169
    MajesticDonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭MajesticDonkey


    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    Now how they going to do this when people in rural areas, can only get fibre exchange broadband? Further people are from the exchange the worse the connection is.

    To be honest all this is is Eir keeping us stuck in the dark ages. They don't want to lose rural customers to a different network! They have a monopoly in rural areas theres no competition and this is Eir trying to protect that. They wouldn't care if people where still using phone lines in 2030 for broadband.

    I suggest you read up on this a bit more before commenting like this.


  • #170
    KOR101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    rob808 wrote: »
    I guess they are scared they won't win any of the NBP so better some of the pie than none.
    Maybe 100,000 of the total NBP lot are actually a commercial proposition.


  • #171
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭rob808


    KOR101 wrote: »
    Maybe 100,000 of the total NBP lot are actually a commercial proposition.
    well they would the NBP plan doesn't start till 2017 eir has Notting to worry about.The other 200,000 is a different story the winning bidders could take of eir if there fast with there rollout.I think eir gona win one of the lots makes sense but we see.


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  • #172
    Cheerful Spring
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    MajesticDonkey wrote: »
    I suggest you read up on this a bit more before commenting like this.

    Eir plans are obvious. They only connect to places in rural Ireland that have local exchanges because its saving them money. Eir wants everyone to use their phones for broadband. If you think Eir has plans to bring fibre to the home on its own you be mistaken in thinking that.


  • #173
    Cheerful Spring
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    rob808 wrote: »
    It the wisp that have a monopoly over rural Ireland.The main reason eir doing the FTTH to rural ribbon areas and very small villages is because of NBP.I guess they are scared they won't win any of the NBP so better some of the pie than none.

    Eir has only committed to it does not mean they will do it on their own. They're in a bidding war with other providers for the contract. They not certain they will win so they extended the reach of their own rollout to cause problems for the government. Its so obvious they can't afford to lose rural customers to another provider. UPC is beating them up badly in the city areas they can't lose rural areas too.


  • #174
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    rob808 wrote: »
    it probably a mistake how far are you from your exchange it say on mine eir Fibre available but not at my address.

    I'm 1.8km from the exchange and on the blue line. the fibre checker has always displayed not available in the area and still does, its just the efibre extreme checker that is now saying available in area but line not activated, probably a database error.


  • #175
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    KOR101 wrote: »
    Target of 100,00 by year end is definitely new. When you tie it in with what was said by the CEO at the results, something concrete looks like it is going to happen..

    It would be nice if they updated the blue lines with a different color to show where they 100,000 lines are going to be completed before years end!


  • #176
    pegasus1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭pegasus1


    KOR101 wrote: »
    Target of 100,00 by year end is definitely new. When you tie it in with what was said by the CEO at the results, something concrete looks like it is going to happen..
    I would say that is FTTC though...


  • #177
    pegasus1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭pegasus1


    Gonzo wrote: »
    It would be nice if they updated the blue lines with a different color to show where they 100,000 lines are going to be completed before years end!
    They do say it...click on fibre services planned on 'eir where when' and some villages in my area will have live fibre services(FTTC?) this year whereas my village will have FTTH in '17-'20


  • #178
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭rob808


    I did see kn van working on that road you live on a good while back so it Could be possible.Try check it again take a photo but block your number from being seeing.


  • #179
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭rob808


    Well phase 1 in planning stage going by message from eir.


  • #180
    pegasus1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭pegasus1


    rob808 wrote: »
    I did see kn van working on that road you live on a good while back so it Could be possible.Try check it again take a photo but block your number from being seeing.
    could be dark fibre..


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  • #181
    ItHurtsWhenIP
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    Gonzo wrote: »
    just noticed now that when I enter my phone number into the eir fibre checker that it says that its not available in my area which has always been the case but when i enter the same number into the eir extreme fibre checker it says that fibre is available in the area but line isn't activated yet. I presume this is a total mistake or am i reading too much into it thinking maybe I might get efibre extreme within the next year.
    rob808 wrote: »
    it probably a mistake how far are you from your exchange it say on mine eir Fibre available but not at my address.

    @Rob, he was talking about the eir fibre extreme checker, which is not dependent on how far he is from the exchange. However I didn't think Dunshaughlin (if that's where you're living @Gonzo?) isn't one of the 66 towns.
    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    Eir plans are obvious. They only connect to places in rural Ireland that have local exchanges because its saving them money. Eir wants everyone to use their phones for broadband. If you think Eir has plans to bring fibre to the home on its own you be mistaken in thinking that.

    I echo @MajesticDonkey's comment - You might want to take a look at that map I linked above and have a read of the extensive discussions on here about same. They are rolling out FTTH on their own outside of the NBP.


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