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Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

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  • #1652
    drtonic49
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 ✭drtonic49


    Just been told by an engineer today that though our housing estate is all wired up for FTTH, it can't be put into any of the houses because no one checked whether the piping was big enough to pull the wire through and there was no boxes on the sides of the houses to pull it through to make a new box..!


  • #1653
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭rob808


    drtonic49 wrote: »
    Just been told by an engineer today that though our housing estate is all wired up for FTTH, it can't be put into any of the houses because no one checked whether the piping was big enough to pull the wire through and there was no boxes on the sides of the houses to pull it through to make a new box..!
    They probably use G.fast if there problem pulling fibre to the house.


  • #1654
    Nollog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,714 ✭✭✭Nollog


    rob808 wrote: »
    They probably use G.fast if there problem pulling fibre to the house.

    A few people on here say that.

    I say they leave those few houses without FTTH like every other service every other company runs and has a similar problem.
    Example: UPC getting a "no" from your neighbor to run a wire near their house = you get nothing.


  • #1655
    pegasus1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭pegasus1


    drtonic49 wrote: »
    Just been told by an engineer today that though our housing estate is all wired up for FTTH, it can't be put into any of the houses because no one checked whether the piping was big enough to pull the wire through and there was no boxes on the sides of the houses to pull it through to make a new box..!

    Surely this is the scenario in 90% of residential areas...also is ducting laid years ago able to run fibre in if the were tight corners within it...?


  • #1656
    ECO_Mental
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,689 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    drtonic49 wrote: »
    Just been told by an engineer today that though our housing estate is all wired up for FTTH, it can't be put into any of the houses because no one checked whether the piping was big enough to pull the wire through and there was no boxes on the sides of the houses to pull it through to make a new box..!

    For my install I had to do a small bit of rooting in that the duct came in under the floor near the front door. Another guy in here in this thread had to drill a hole in his external wall and I think bring it up the cavity. I had this work done before they came as they had done a few of my type of house before me so I had a good idea where the entry point was. If I were you I would do some investigation to find exactly where your copper is entering the house. It might still be possible, if you can prove to then you can get it in then they might go ahead with it. Talking to the EIR lads they say getting the fibre into the house is the hardest part. I was ready for them so they were less than an hour with me.

    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



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  • #1657
    funkhouser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭funkhouser


    The blue line on fibrerollout.ie, what precisely does it represent? If you are just beyond the limit of the blue line are you out of luck?


  • #1658
    ItHurtsWhenIP
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,209 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    funkhouser wrote: »
    The blue line on fibrerollout.ie, what precisely does it represent? If you are just beyond the limit of the blue line are you out of luck?

    eir have said that they ***might*** roll out FTTH to places along the blue lines. It is an effort from them to annex these areas from the NBP and make the NBP unprofitable for other bidders.

    It looks like the DCENR are calling their bluff though, as eir won't commit to this plan.


  • #1659
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    funkhouser wrote: »
    If you are just beyond the limit of the blue line are you out of luck?

    Hopefully the National Broadand Plan (NBP) will provide a minimum of 30 Mbps to anyone that wants it in the implementation area.


  • #1660
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭rob808


    They Didn't say they might they are pressing ahead with there ftth rollout to rural Ireland.They Didn't sign the commitment because of the heavy penalty enforced by it.


  • #1661
    KOR101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    MMFITWGDV wrote: »
    eir have said that they ***might*** roll out FTTH to places along the blue lines. It is an effort from them to annex these areas from the NBP and make the NBP unprofitable for other bidders.

    It looks like the DCENR are calling their bluff though, as eir won't commit to this plan.
    As Rob says.....

    “We are actually starting this rollout now and, in the short term, we are creating a reverse digital divide where rural communities will have superior services through fibre-to-the-home.”

    [URL="Https://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms/2016/01/27/eir-ceo-interview-1gbps-broadband-fibre"]Https://www.siliconrepublic.com/comm...roadband-fibre[/URL]


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  • #1662
    pegasus1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭pegasus1


    The Cush wrote: »
    Hopefully the National Broadand Plan (NBP) will provide a minimum of 30 Mbps to anyone that wants it in the implementation area.
    I think they have to supply it to all, houses are sold and bought...no point passing a house that doesn't want it and not leaving a connection for it...as if when sold and new occupier wants it then what...


  • #1663
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    I reckon Eir will focus more on rural areas anyway as UPC/Virgin have a firm foothold in Dublin and other urban areas with much faster broadband, cheaper prices and no line rental needed. There is almost no competition outside of urban areas so Eir can gain alot by rolling out fibre to the rest of the country. Whoever rolls out FTTH on a widespread basis across most of rural Ireland first will likely control that market for the next 20+ years.


  • #1664
    Manc Red
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Manc Red


    funkhouser wrote: »
    The blue line on fibrerollout.ie, what precisely does it represent? If you are just beyond the limit of the blue line are you out of luck?
    -
    The blue lines on the map show the areas where we will be deploying a FTTH solution. If your home or business is along these lines you will have access to high speed fibre broadband between the timeframe of 2016-2020. As planning and deployment timelines are forecasted we will update our map with expected go live dates. If your house or business is not included in our plans, your area will be covered by the National Broadband Plan (see details below)


  • #1665
    pegasus1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭pegasus1


    Have seen strapped to poles today in Kilkenny city blue coloured cable tails


  • #1666
    jimmad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭jimmad


    This rollout seems to have died a death, no visable sign of any movement in letterkenny nevermind live connections.


  • #1667
    cunnijo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭cunnijo


    I agree. It is the very same here in Naas and it is one of the first 19 areas that were to get it from last September. I can say the same about SIRO too. Their rollout seems to be at a crawl too with the exception of Letterkenny. This comes from an email I received from them (SIRO)

    "We're delighted to announce that Letterkenny is the first SIRO-powered town of 2016 and will receive one gigabit connectivity. The first premises will be available from April through Vodafone LightSpeed Broadband, powered by SIRO."


  • #1668
    DownOneTourist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭DownOneTourist


    I've seen them working on our road recently.


  • #1669
    Deagol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Deagol


    Agreed, whole thing is a damn squib. In Ennis they enabled a couple of estates and that was it.

    I was going to get the TV service from Eir if they gave me FTTH but have gone with a dish instead now. Doubtful I would pay extra now for FTTH. All rather typically Irish IMHO.


  • #1670
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Eir already have 14 towns receiving FTTH, how well serviced with FTTH are these towns?

    I presume they are still working on the 66 towns while they are preparing the rural FTTH rollout?


  • #1671
    cunnijo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭cunnijo


    Gonzo wrote: »
    Eir already have 14 towns receiving FTTH, how well serviced with FTTH are these towns?

    I presume they are still working on the 66 towns while they are preparing the rural FTTH rollout?

    Gonzo I suspect only parts of each of the 14 towns have FTTH from Eir (mainly new housing estates). Where I live here in Naas of the over 11,000+ than can get FTTC only 2,230 are FTTH enabled and the upgrade work is extremely slow.


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  • #1672
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,013 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    cunnijo wrote: »
    Gonzo I suspect only parts of each of the 14 towns have FTTH from Eir (mainly new housing estates). Where I live here in Naas of the over 11,000+ than can get FTTC only 2,230 are FTTH enabled and the upgrade work is extremely slow.

    Yes, there is no point in quoting X number of towns. The only correct metric is premises passed.


  • #1673
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Bodie Stale Jawbreaker wrote: »
    Yes, there is no point in quoting X number of towns. The only correct metric is premises passed.

    thats the way they are working with the rural ftth scheme is number of homes/premises passed. I think when they originally announced the 66 towns they claimed FTTH on its way to these towns but never gave an estimated number of premises to be passed so I guess once they FTTH enable even 1 estate they can get away with their claim that the town has FTTH.

    Im hoping to get FTTH within the next 12 months in phase 1 of the rollout of the rural FTTH but have admit im a bit concerned that the FTTH rollout to these 66 towns is painfully slow and very patchy.


  • #1674
    sibergoth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭sibergoth


    yeah kinda disappointing about Ennis.. I have 90Mbps now, which is very good.. but i crave the 1Gbps !

    i've been checking every week now for 8 months or so on the eir.ie availability page and nothing. I know a few people in Ennis got it, but when will it come to my road?! will it be months, years, or just never ??

    so much anxiety caused by a lack of communication.. I understand that they don't want to be locked into anything - but a bit more clarity around the plan would be nice.

    Siro is vague too.. Town level isn't really good enough info if only some random estates are able to get the service.


  • #1675
    Deagol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Deagol


    sibergoth wrote: »
    yeah kinda disappointing about Ennis.. I have 90Mbps now, which is very good.. but i crave the 1Gbps !

    i've been checking every week now for 8 months or so on the eir.ie availability page and nothing. I know a few people in Ennis got it, but when will it come to my road?! will it be months, years, or just never ??

    Was told by an Eircom engineer that the rollout in Ennis was completed (this was around xmas) and if I hadn't FTTH by now I wouldn't be getting it "ever".

    And then of course we had the insult of Eir trying to raise the prices to enable "enhanced service"...


  • #1676
    irishgeo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,720 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    i thought this was being help in court by a complaint against eir by the other companies.


  • #1677
    sibergoth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭sibergoth


    Deagol wrote: »
    Was told by an Eircom engineer that the rollout in Ennis was completed (this was around xmas) and if I hadn't FTTH by now I wouldn't be getting it "ever".

    that is NOT good..


  • #1678
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    sibergoth wrote: »
    that is NOT good..

    I would take no notice of that. Many of the guys on the ground don't know Eir managements long term plans.

    Plus "ever" is a long time. You might not get it soon, but in 10 to 15 years from now every home in Ireland will be connected to FTTH one way or the other.


  • #1679
    damienirel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭damienirel


    bk wrote: »
    I would take no notice of that. Many of the guys on the ground don't know Eir managements long term plans.

    Plus "ever" is a long time. You might not get it soon, but in 10 to 15 years from now every home in Ireland will be connected to FTTH one way or the other.

    Would totally agree with that even Eir management don't know Eirs long (hell even short) term plans. Until the tenders come back form the NBP then Eir might start getting real. At the moment they are tickling the nation with FTTH just like Siro. In the meantime virgin are milking it for all they can. But BK is right there is only one technology going to succeed and that's fibre - would be surprised if we have any copper phone/broadband network in 10 years.


  • #1680
    PeadarB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭PeadarB


    jimmad wrote: »
    This rollout seems to have died a death, no visable sign of any movement in letterkenny nevermind live connections.
    I finally gave up on eir FTTH as I couldn't stand the frustration of being so near the main FTTH run and not able to avail of it. I've moved back to Vodafone and their Siro FTTH will be available from this month.
    I prefer certainty.


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  • #1681
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    They will definitely put FTTH anywhere where there is homes/premises. 6 months ago there was no plan or anything in sight for my area. Then a few months ago there was a vague news alert over 300,000 homes, today they are laying fibre not far from me in an area surrounded by fields, cows and sheep on its way to ribbon developments so anything is possible at this stage!


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