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Xtravision liquidation

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,560 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    So annoying for anyone with Gift vouchers (possibly loads after Christmas) and anyone with something to exchange. I got two of the same DVD for Christmas and exchanged it just last weekend- just in time it seems :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    Danny_B wrote: »
    Being reported that all stores are to close with immediate effect.

    Will they sell off the stock


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭thomasm


    Rented my first Blueray in years last weekend. Got sick of low picture quality from downloads and the difference in picture/sound was unreal. Had decided to start renting more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,861 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    5rtytry56 wrote: »
    Ultimately, Xtravision were legally compelled to sell the console to customer without having to fork out for the quite average run of the mill game.

    That's how they tried to get around it though, they'd still sell you your console, but you'd go to the back of the queue in terms of stock. They'd give priority to and only release consoles to those who were buying an additional game/controller. So they were still fulfilling their obligation, you'd just have to wait a few weeks, which considering this was mid-November and stock was sold out pretty much everywhere, meant you pretty much had no other choice but to do it, or possibly not get your console in time for Xmas.

    They also tried to blame it on Microsoft, saying it was them who said people had to buy an extra game/controller. Much like their business model, they forgot it was the 21st Century and people could contact MS to ask. XV quickly had to backtrack and admit MS never gave that order.
    I am still pissing myself over Xtravision makeing you buy another game with your xbox one ?. What where you going to be playing on them anyway if our not going to buy a game with it ;).

    Just a fancy paper wight ha ha

    That's the thing, even someone who had two games pre-ordered and already paid for, they were still being told they had to buy an extra game. Let's say 15 games are available at launch, you only want two of them or can only afford two of them, so you preorder and pay for them. You were then forced into buying another game, a game you did not want, in order to get your console. Even besides that, people might have been getting games from elsewhere or whatever, but XV were still saying they had to buy an extra game or extra controller, or they'd go to the back of the list and stock would be given out to others who were as a priority.

    It came back to bite them in the arse though. Not only did many people stop going to XtraVision completely, but they also had to take back any games people were forced into buying, and considering many of them had probably been opened by that point, meant XV couldn't sell them for full price again. Plus when the PS4 was being released a week or two later, I had already paid off the console, but not the games. So I did in fact buy my PS4 without any games in XV and just got the games across the road in Argos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,560 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    http://entertainment.ie/cinema/news/XtraVision-to-cease-trading-from-today-all-80-stores-closed-across-Ireland/375806.htm

    Says HMV not affected by this? WTF? I know in Kilkenny they are in the same shop, not much differentiation at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    With them gone and Screenclick gone is that the end of video/DVD rental in Ireland? I would have thought there would be a market, a smallish one for post based rentals like what Screenclick had, there's plenty areas of the country with brutal broadband that this might appeal to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    road_high wrote: »
    So annoying for anyone with Gift vouchers (possibly loads after Christmas) and anyone with something to exchange. I got two of the same DVD for Christmas and exchanged it just last weekend- just in time it seems :eek:
    Gift vouchers will be honoured.

    In fact, in a liquidation sale you'll get stuff cut price, so your vouchers will go even further.

    You'll have to use them though, once the shops are gone, your vouchers are worthless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Captain Flaps


    Tell me on the day the xbox one and PS4 came out games where 50 euros ha ha. They where 70 + everywhere. I just looked at my orders on my amazon account i paid 63 euros for black Flag for my PS4 from them when it came out :rolleyes:

    Let's say you wanted an xbox one. Let's say you picked the local xtravision to preorder it because it's handy for you. You submit your preorder and put the cash aside, and on the day you excitedly rock up to the store to collect it.

    Then the lad behind the counter says he won't give you your preorder unless you give him another €75 for a game (also, wasn't it from a selection of games? Could be wrong there).

    Are you saying you'd have absolutely no problem with that? What if you'd bought a console with a bundled game and you weren't planning on getting something else until next month's payday?

    What if you're a kid who's saved up the birthday/communion money and you just have the cash for your preorder?

    What if you're a stressed parent just trying to make sure you get the bloody thing so there aren't ructions on Christmas day.

    They knew this was illegal, they just chanced their arm to try and make a quick quid off people who thought it was pay up or go home empty handed (with no chance of getting one elsewhere for weeks).

    haha yeah, that's grand :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    With them gone and Screenclick gone is that the end of video/DVD rental in Ireland? I would have thought there would be a market, a smallish one for post based rentals like what Screenclick had, there's plenty areas of the country with brutal broadband that this might appeal to.
    This would actually be an ideal time for the government to step in and hoover up the bulk of this stuff for stocking up public libraries.

    Yes, if you're a library member you can borrow DVDs and having a comprehensive movie collection would actually be a valuable public service. Even Netflix somewhat doesn't bother maintaining an enormous library - unpopular movies will be quietly dropped from availability.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    What happens to HMV then?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Captain Flaps


    'unaffected', apparently. Presume they'll close the dedicated xtravision stores and keep a few of the bigger HMVs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Presumably there won't be some big sale of xtravision stock then, it'll just go to HMV stores. Dang.

    yes I'm a vulture. Shoot me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭TrustedApple


    If you dont have the money to buy another game with the console maybe you should think twice do you really have the money to buy your new fancy 500 euros game console ?. As i would only buy something if i had double of it in my bank account as i would never wont to see my bank in red ever as i valve every euro i had as i have had some very very hard times.

    You must be some rich kid to have had 500 euros to buy a games console and proves that kids today take everything for granted with getting stuff and wont thinks yesterday and wont wait for them. The way it was in my house if i wonted something i had to work for it as he mother and father wont hand me a penny unless i worked in my fathers business.

    How is it illegal its like your out for a meal and there is 8 of you and you have to pay a service charge ?. If its in black and white you have to pay as its management rules. If they tell you in a nightclub your to drunk to go on and you have no drink in you ?. management rules. Same as going into another shop and see something that has a price of 50 euros but scans at 100 up to the management to give it to you for 50 as they dont have to at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    I was driving through a town other day and saw one and wondered out loud how Xtravision could still be around in this day and age and today I see it's gone out of business. A harbinger of doom I am.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Captain Flaps


    If you dont have the money to buy another game with the console maybe you should think twice do you really have the money to buy your new fancy 500 euros game console ?. As i would only buy something if i had double of it in my bank account as i would never wont to see my bank in red ever as i valve every euro i had as i have had some very very hard times.

    You must be some rich kid to have had 500 euros to buy a games console and proves that kids today take everything for granted with getting stuff and wont thinks yesterday and wont wait for them. The way it was in my house if i wonted something i had to work for it as he mother and father wont hand me a penny unless i worked in my fathers business.

    How is it illegal its like your out for a meal and there is 8 of you and you have to pay a service charge ?. If its in black and white you have to pay as its management rules. If they tell you in a nightclub your to drunk to go on and you have no drink in you ?. management rules. Same as going into another shop and see something that has a price of 50 euros but scans at 100 up to the management to give it to you for 50 as they dont have to at all.

    I can't tell if you're being difficult on purpose or just stupid.

    It was illegal. A preorder is basically a contract of sale. You can cancel it at any time but the terms can't just be changed midway through the process. THe high court agreed and xtravision were forced to refund the cost of the ransom games to anyone who wanted to return them. The other situations you mention are not even remotely the same thing.

    All other sob stories aside, what if I ordered the xbox and a game and I just don't want to buy anything else? They can't force you to at the till.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    The last DVD I rented was a tape!. It was The Last Boy Scout, when was that, early 90s?

    Even then, you could see the writing on the wall. The internet might have killed video rentals, but multichannel cable and satellite TV loaded the gun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Sierra 117


    I'm sad to see it go, if only because I would rent a Blu-Ray from there every now and then.

    Their game prices were atrocious though. €70-75 for one game was taking the piss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Captain Flaps


    Sierra 117 wrote: »
    I'm sad to see it go, if only because I would rent a Blu-Ray from there every now and then.

    Their game prices were atrocious though. €70-75 for one game was taking the piss.

    They had the cheapest second hand section before CEX got involved though. Got many an xbox 360 game for a fiver!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    A flawed and out dated business model. Richard Branson was about the only one who saw the writing on the wall and collapsed Virgin in double quick time.

    The Xtra Vision on Douglas has very snarky signs all round the shop about how they are being replaced by vending machine/kiosks or something. No loss aside from those who are working there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭allibastor


    I went into Xtra vision in Naas, didnt see anything mad during the closing down sale!

    Like some DVD and games which were pre-owned were a bit cheaper, but nothing major


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    allibastor wrote: »
    I went into Xtra vision in Naas, didnt see anything mad during the closing down sale!

    Like some DVD and games which were pre-owned were a bit cheaper, but nothing major

    All of which were probably half the price in a local CEX.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Captain Flaps


    Staff aside, it would have been pretty great to go and rent a load of games last night and find out you could keep them this morning.


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gimmick wrote: »
    All of which were probably half the price in a local CEX.

    I'm wide-eyed reading this thread and the comments about CEX. Last time I was in one other than 8+ year old games at least half the stuff I looked at could be found cheaper new online.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,861 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    If you dont have the money to buy another game with the console maybe you should think twice do you really have the money to buy your new fancy 500 euros game console ?. As i would only buy something if i had double of it in my bank account as i would never wont to see my bank in red ever as i valve every euro i had as i have had some very very hard times.

    You must be some rich kid to have had 500 euros to buy a games console and proves that kids today take everything for granted with getting stuff and wont thinks yesterday and wont wait for them. The way it was in my house if i wonted something i had to work for it as he mother and father wont hand me a penny unless i worked in my fathers business.

    How is it illegal its like your out for a meal and there is 8 of you and you have to pay a service charge ?. If its in black and white you have to pay as its management rules. If they tell you in a nightclub your to drunk to go on and you have no drink in you ?. management rules. Same as going into another shop and see something that has a price of 50 euros but scans at 100 up to the management to give it to you for 50 as they dont have to at all.

    Rich kid? I'm in my thirties. I did have to work for it, considering I bought it from my wages, not relying on mammy and daddy :D

    Not everyone on the internet is a 15 year old.

    Besides which, just because a company says "It's the rules", doesn't mean they're still not obliged to follow the law, and legally, they weren't.

    In particular, your last example about something being priced at €50 but scanning at €100. The €50 is known as Invitation to Tender. If it scans at a higher price, you can then either decide to buy it at the scanned price, or not buy it. What XtraVision were doing were forcing you into an additional purchase in order to receive goods you had already paid for. The tender had already been completed when you prepaid, but they weren't giving you the item unless you bought something else. That's against the law.

    And I did have more than double how much the console was worth in my account. The reason I did was because I'm not stupid enough to just accept policies like that which are designed to get you to spend money on things you don't want just because the company might say "It's the rules".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,447 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I can't tell if you're being difficult on purpose or just stupid.

    Less of this please.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Captain Flaps


    I'm wide-eyed reading this thread and the comments about CEX. Last time I was in one other than 8+ year old games at least half the stuff I looked at could be found cheaper new online.

    You need to know what you're looking for. Newer stuff is always extortionate, go back maybe a year and it's cheap as chips. Also offer good tradein value on a lot of things. I've bought new off Amazon before with the sole purpose of trading in at CEX immediately for a profit. I got a good deal on an iPad Air trading in my 2 also, but hardware pricing can be a bit hit and miss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,101 ✭✭✭✭lertsnim


    Tell me on the day the xbox one and PS4 came out games where 50 euros ha ha. They where 70 + everywhere. I just looked at my orders on my amazon account i paid 63 euros for black Flag for my PS4 from them when it came out :rolleyes:

    Only place that you could have got the games for 50 euros was from Chandra when the new consoles came out.

    But get back to me if you see a new release game in a retail store in Ireland for 45 50 euros for the xbox one or the PS4 not a hope in hell. Anything that has a funny name is 80 euros now in gamestop ha ha.

    As the PS4 launched in North America before Europe I had 3 games for the PS4 before launch at €42 each from Canada. You are embarrassing yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,519 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    My local Xtravision/HMV has had closing down sale signs up since before Christmas. Think they were to be closed up by the end of this month. I went in for a look after Christmas and to be honest there were very few bargains to be had, not really much reduction in prices, in fact many things were still full price and loads of stock in store.


    If they can't even do a closing down sale right....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭bcklschaps


    You need to know what you're looking for. Newer stuff is always extortionate, go back maybe a year and it's cheap as chips. Also offer good tradein value on a lot of things. I've bought new off Amazon before with the sole purpose of trading in at CEX immediately for a profit. I got a good deal on an iPad Air trading in my 2 also, but hardware pricing can be a bit hit and miss.


    What is a CEX ? is it a Cash Exchange shop where you can buy stuff but more importantly they may offer you a knock down price for something you are trading in as well ?

    Fair play if you caught them out on something :) I'd say that's rare. There's a couple of them in my locality and they don't seem to offer particularly good value to buyers at least.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭TrustedApple


    Mr.S wrote: »
    Just download blueray copies, no?

    A proper blu ray rip is like 25GB + if you also wont the 5.1 DTS sound as well if you have the speaker set up. Not these fake 1.4GB 1080P downloads ;)

    Having watched Netflix 4k, Blu rays and full HD downloads.

    Blu rays always wins hands down for quilty as now point having the fancy TV if your going to download and watch bad sub 720P rips on them ;)


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